now let's get to our discussion with fessor call one. let me just ask you, we've been discussing this for decades. are there elements of this particular crisis that seem different to you? the well, the differences primarily on the american side in the sense that you have had impassioned speeches of while mainly democrats on the left in congress, pretty roundly condemning the net 10 yellow government and israel for its actions in gaza. and not accepting the israeli narrative about these things, which is that this is merely a matter of necessaries. self defense are the issues are being re framed almost like black lives matter in terms of palestinian human rights. there is a change also in the middle east and that we have for the 1st time in a long time seen solidarity across the green line. so the palestinians are striking today, not only in the west bank and gaza, but in israel proper, where 20 percent of the population is a palestinian heritage. so there is a cross border solidarity in the middle east. there is some solidarity with pales

got wind of it and were able to stop that attack so there's a variety of ways like fessor says that itcan be done but it's not always so simple and in this case remember there are now blackmailing these people the difference with this group is there are attacking it with the ransomware locking it up but they're stealing their data beforehand and then blackmailing them about the release of the data. so this is a very different tactic than we've seen in the immediate past bloomberg buy it is reporting that the company paid i believe $5000000.00 i have a tendency to believe it talat higher than that what's your take. well we don't we don't know. who we don't know. what's he doing is what's been reported and it's payment doesn't need and apparently was around a $1000000.00 and you earlier mentioned that's good as i was and he's in the real world that's economics that's always wins so any value is fired and a $1000000.00 or $10000000.00 might seem not have been feasible for either side or you value less and as my notes and and you go by the ransom or operations darkseid there is of course m

victory is so viciously stripped away from great patriots badly, unfairly treated for so long prompt fessor, your board decided to uphold the ban for six months while facebook clarifiess its policy. why did you decide to enforce the ban or to continue the ban during that period, rather than to lift it? >> well, chris, on january 6 president trump issued those statements as a mob was rampaging through the capitol, as members of congress were cowering in fear, as the rioters were threatening vice president pence's life. he issued these statements egging on with perfunctory asking for peace, but egging them on, violation of facebook rules against praising dangerous individuals and organizations at a time of violence. so mr. trump is subject to the same rules on facebook as everyone else and the oversight board held that this was in fact a violation and facebook was justified in taking them down. what we did say, though, they were not justifiedindefinitely,d not provide any reasons for that, that is not a provision in their rules, that was wrong. we gave them a certain amount of time to get tha