conservatives are the ones who argue that if you take away the fetters, it will help everybody, including tehhe poor. he accepted the premise of liberals that what you do with the poor is stick them in a safety net and leave them there. he is not fluent yet in the ideology of conservatism. >> mark mckinnon, a former bush and mccain adviser, says that romney is reinforcing the image of the republican party, out of touch, and that is why he is having problems with independent voters. how does he get past that? >> he is maladroit, but there is an inner toughness to him. his family history has been constant persecution. his family has always been ground down, run out of town, and each time they come back. that is the way he is paid he sees an expanding, but he is pretty tough. >> you just have to look at the way he came back in south carolina -- from south carolina. it reminds me in a way of clinton. you cannot not this guy out. he has inner toughness. >> he can take a bunch. >> he showed he could take a punch by coming back in florida from south carolina, but i guess all moo -- it is all moo

consecorvatives argueue that if you take away the fetters, it will help everybody including the poor. he agreed with the promise of liberals that at you do with teh poooor is that you stick them in a safety net and you lve them there. that is a laer problem he has he is nott fluent yet inin conservative ideology. >> mark mckinnon, a former bush and mccain aiser, says that romney is reinforcing the image of the republican party as out of t touch, and that is why he is having such problems with independent voters. hodoes he get past that? >> it is a mistake to underestimatate romney because he is maladroit but there is an ner toughness to him. his family history y it hasee costed persecution. his family has always been ground down, runt out of town, and each timime they come back and rebuild the fortune. he seeees that things, he accepts bad things, but he is pretty tough. >> you just haveo look at the way he came back from south carolina. it does remind me in a way of clinton. you just cannot knock this guy out. has an inner toughness. >> he n take a punch mark. >> he can definitely ta

the fetters still galled your limbs. gradually this inequity has been passing away. but the time has come for the last vestiges of it to be removed. therefore, i, without reference to the president or any other person, have a proclamation to make and standing here on the steps of the capitol with the past history of the state to witness, its present condition to guide, its future to encourage me. i, andrew johnson, do hereby proclaim freedom, full, broad and unconditional to every man in tennessee. those were words. some four months later we backed them up with action. the convention i called to recreate a loyal state government to the union also enacted an amendment to the tennessee state constitution ending forever slavery in this state which became part of our constitution with a popular vote of the people on february 22nd, 1865. shortly after that, i went back to washington to take the seat as vice president. the second highest office in the gift of a free people. five weeks later, the war was over. and one of its final casualties, our murdered president. and wit

parents, family, and nursing homes, there are many different kinds of living fettered different from having your own fellow apartment and what we see are people who have different choices making this choice. >> host: i had enjoyed the opportunity to talk to you about the book and it makes me think of a lot of different things. >> guest: thank you for joining the conversation >> good evening thank you for taking time editor busiest schedule and to support the bookstores we appreciate it. also to take a moment to tell you about our new policy with regard to purchasing the books on the night of the signing. i did not realize that based on the number of books that we sell that people bring their books and from outside and will not continue to receive waterfall authors like this the thing it is mike not bringing your own beer and to the bar. i did want to take a moment to express at and if you'd like to have your book signed please purchase one here. then you will receive resigning tickets to make it is a pleasure to present barry sanders will discuss his book america can "avatar" the uni