on the ffsa, it is 285 people altogether in the military. now ffsa is kind of restrictive. you have to get through your chain of command to get it. does that impact your career? these things make it less attractive and less useful, certainly for the near territories. for overseas, it may still serve some useful purpose, but the snap program is the fact that it needs to exist for some of our military. it is something easier to get and provides better nutritional value for the families that require it. so, phasing out or reducing the ffsa program is not a bad idea. >> thank you mr. chairman. >> senator mccaskill. >> first, i want to note that your recommendations were unanimous, is that correct? >> yes. >> that is quite an extraordinary thing for all of us on this side of the table. we don't see much that is unanimous, especially with the makeup of this particular commission. i have worked with many of you and i know it is bipartisan and you come from different perspectives and i know you come to the commission with different viewpoints at the beginning and the fact that you

so either phasing out or reducing the ffsa program is not a bad idea, because snap fills in the gap very nicely. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> senator mccatskill, please. >> first i want to note that your recommendations were unanimous; is that correct? >> yes that's correct, senator. >> that's quite an extraordinary thing for all of us who sit on this side of the table. we don't see much that's unanimous, especially with the makeup of this particular commission. and i'm familiar and have worked with many of you. i know it's bipartisan and you come from different perspectives. i know you probably came with different viewpoints in the beginning, and the fact you worked so hard and came up with this proposal that was adopted trying to milkize. and this might exactly be doing what we need to be doing. first of all, i think our country need to save more, and our military always sets the example for our country in terms of the values and the ethics that is embraced by our military. so i think the way this plan embraces saving is terrific. i think that if you're in the military that your frpe