from the sunday times will tell us how he lands his stories, and we're going to hear the story of fi glover and jane garvey leaving the bbc for times radio. we'll hear the story according to their agent. but let's begin with the situation with the uk economy. here with me in the media studio is stephanie flanders, head of bloomberg economics, and we're alsojoined by paul lewis, the presenter of radio 4's money box. both of you, you're very welcome. stephanie, even forsomeone like you who's covered these matters for some time, this is a particularly challenging story to get across. yeah, and i think there's sort of a double challenge. i think the british people have always, through history, kind of struggled to understand the importance of the pound changing value if they're not immediately about to go on holiday, and we did start this week hearing about the pound hitting all—time lows. but there's been a sort of another major part of the uncertainty — probably the more important part of the uncertainty in the market this week — which is this big run from uk government debt. and the moment i

to turn to one of the big stories of the week, because on saturday, we heard that jane garvey and fi gloverrted the bbc�*s tv and radio output. so let�*s understand how these deals happen and the calculations that are involved. we�*re joined by sue ayton, who�*s fiona jane�*s agent, also co—founder of night agent management, which represents a whole raft of the biggest names in broadcasting. and we�*re joined by megan carver, founder and managing director of carver pr, which does publicity for some of the biggest names in broadcasting. megan and sue, thanks for. being with us on the media show. sue i�*ve got to start with you. tell us how it happened. we did this because it was a return to live broadcasting, which is their roots, their first love, and they were really being under—used at the bbc, even though they had this huge podcast, which, as we know, has downloaded millions over the last few years. they had a yen to get back to broadcast in times. radio very cleverly identified them as this magical duo who needed to be back broadcasting daily. and that�*s really where it started. we had