fiedler said we are all women. [laughter] kristen: in addition to you three who with the other roles in an operating room. >> there was a woman named ashley running the heart and lung machine. there were a couple of women who were our nurses. one is a contract nurse with ucsf and dr. meisler was also with us. kristen: how rare is this? even the best records that we have do not show anything like this previously. >> what do you think? >> i do not think anyone is ever kept track of it before but it has never happened to any of us, which makes it unlikely to happen. kristen: i love this dynamic where you are all being inclusive. do you see how this woman dynamic is being brought in here and i see that happening in the or. did you notice anything in terms of the damage -- the dynamic, the working, the communicating. >> i think it was just another day in the operating room. we are lucky to work in a place like ucsf where we are an institution filled with diverse individuals. we are used to working together under stressf