>> well, fifrl, i'm sorry. fred, i wonder how you get over this question of picking of winners and second of all, i wonder if military friends would accept the burden of funding these received winners from the military budget since this is a security problem and markets can't seem to handle it. >> well, first of all, everybody in this room that has a, on your person at the moment, a cell phone, raise your hand. are you telling me there are a large group of people back there that don't have a cell phone? everybody that owns one, raise your hand. everybody in the room, isn't it? if you don't, you're one of the tiny minorities. that issue has been decided. every cell phone regardless of whether you have an android or iphone or whatever the case may be, is powered by lithium ion battery. there's nobody that's arguing over whether l.e.d. acid batteries or whatever the case may be, are going to be a source of power. that issue has been decided. it's more akin to the situation of the early days of aviation when the un