the kurds are good at fighting i.s.i.s., a trusted and reliable proxy, we'll worry about the political aftermath later. militarily you can defeat organizations like i.s.i.s., we did it in 2010 when it was known as al quaida in iraq, but what comes next is what you need to worry about. >> hockenberry: then the trump administration's immigration detention policies. >> people need to think seriously about their relationship to these laws and will we maintain the posture of saying we want an exception here and here. here's a nice family, a good immigrant family, or are people going to start looking at the long-term consequences of these laws and saying, you know what, having facilities all over the country keeping people locked up instead of allowing them to work, we moving people from their families and their jobs, something is problematic about that. >> hockenberry: we conclude with fashion designer and philanthropist tory burch. she talks to katie couric about her career. >> instinct is good. if you believe in your vision, it's important to follow it when you have a unique point of view

the kurds are good at fighting i.s.i.s., a trusted and reliable proxy, we'll worry about the politicaler. militarily you can defeat organizations like i.s.i.s., we did it in 2010 when it was known as al quaida in iraq, but what comes next is what you need to worry about. >> hockenberry: then the trump administration's immigration detention policies. >> people need to think

i.s.i.s. has controlled the city for three years and putting up a fierce fight.t's believed more than 45,000 people have been able to escape the fighting, but as many as 700,000 others are still trapped. >>> thousands of people converged on the city of selma, alabama today, for the annual reenactment of the key event in the civil rights movement. crossing the bridge from selma to montgomery in remembrance of bloody sunday. images of police beating 600 marchers flashed across tv screens nationwide. it's widely believed that march helped build momentum for passage of the landmark voting rights act of 1965. >> brigadier general david deputy retired after 41 years of season. he enlisted in the air national guard of april, 1976, at 18 as a fourth generation guardsman. he went on to serve over 24 years as a delaware state trooper, retiring with a rank of captain. today senator tom carper and the mayor were on hand to celebrate his career. >>> some local volunteer fire fighters hosted a break it's for the community they serve. eggs, sausage, french toast and coffee on t

talked about a grand bargain with vladimir putin presumably focused on the bar in syria, the fight on i.s.i.s hopes to contain china and meddlesome iran by breaking ground with russia. i think that's setting expectations too high. the reason for the relationship being in the doghouse is profound and goes to the heart of who we are as a nation. >> woodruff: paul saunders, how do you see the state to have the relationship now. >> i agree with andrew that the relationship is at its worst state today since probably the 1980s. i think there is no question about that. where i would differ with andrew is i think there are opportunities to improve the relationship. i do think there are some possibilities in syria on some other issues, arms control, perhaps, some other areas, too, and, you know, the president seems determined to try that. if he does, i think moscow would be receptive. i think it's appropriate to keep our expectations in check. i do believe there is some possibilities. >> woodruff: why do you say they're broken, andrew weiss? >> well, it comes back to the core question of how did the u

i.s.i.s. fighters fighting from the rooftops and they were sheltering in their homes, and as the iraqi forcesanced, there was heavy bombardment on this neighborhood, and there are allegations of actually multiple sites hit by u.s. airstrikes, but one building they have pulled out more than 100 bodies and that's an alleged site of a track. >> the iraqis are saying it was booby trapped by i.s.i.s. >> that's right. they said they made an initial investigation and this particular building was booby trapped by i.s.i.s. initially commanders blamed it on an i.s.i.s. column that collapsed. several conflicting stories. iraqi civil defense, the rescue workers pulling the bodies out of the building, the experts say it's caused by an airstrikes. the u.s. coalition said it carried out a strike to have the location of the accusations of mass civilian casualties. >> yang: president trump said they wanted give commanders in the field more flexibility. what do we know about the rules covering airstrikes like these i?have they changed since president trump came into the office? >> what we know is no change at

i.s.i.s. narrative that the u.s. coz seeking to fightar against islam or by allowing a slippery slope for the use of military force which i think is a legitimate concern we should be asking about in the context of moving toward general hostilities for engagement in somalia. >> sreenivasan: we go out of our way more than anybody to try to minimize civilian casualties, so what's the harm in giving them leeway if they follow the same protocols? >> they won't follow the same protocols. the protocols are very different. the u.s. military is better than anybody else at avoiding civilian harm, but we need to look at the airstrikes in mosul and iraq to see there are huge potentials for backlash that come when you relax those protocols, and we can do extremely well, we've done extremely well at different periods during our history. we know how to be discriminating in the use of air power and president obama's original intent was to keep the standards high as much as possible so we should be asking tough questions when the standards are relaxed. >

i.s.i.s. in the briefing, at least yesterday, and a lot of this information is under wraps or hasn't been released because they say they don't want those - -- those the administration is fighting to figure out what's going on exactly. but beyond drone strikes, the overall strategy, what more do we know or have we learned from the first month-plus if office for the new administration? >> you know, i think, so far, we haven't seen page changes. you know, it's still very much what they called in the obama administration and what the military calls a by, with and through strategy. nerd we're not going to commit large numbers of u.s. troops, we're going to work through indigenous allies on the ground. that's been done in iraq and syria. i think you see a small change in that commanders are being allowed to take more risk in terms of pushing u.s. advisors further forward on the battle field, a little bit more artillery support from the ground, but just not major shifts. >> gordon, if we see more troops on the ground, where would it be? >> i think largely what a lot of the commanders are going to say that they need more advisors. we know in afghanistan that they would like more advis