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now, i did make it clear in the finance committee that this was just a beginning. i believe, for example, that it's long overdue for medicare to have the bargain -- the power to bargain with drugmakers directly for lower drug prices. something like 90% of the american people, 90% of the american people believe that it is time to lift the restriction on medicare so that medicare could bargain to hold down the costs of medicine. weren't able to get that into the bill, but at a minimum, the bipartisan legislation the finance committee approved cannot be picked apart by pharma lobbyists, should not be picked apart by pharma lobbyists, particularly on the key question of whether or not we're going to stop pharmaceutical price gouging. on this side, my colleagues and i are going to continue to fight to get this legislation passed by the full senate. for now, it is up to leader mcconnell to bring our bill to the floor. my message to every member of this body is the americans were battling illnesses and struggling to pay for their medications cannot wait. these are people,
now, i did make it clear in the finance committee that this was just a beginning. i believe, for example, that it's long overdue for medicare to have the bargain -- the power to bargain with drugmakers directly for lower drug prices. something like 90% of the american people, 90% of the american people believe that it is time to lift the restriction on medicare so that medicare could bargain to hold down the costs of medicine. weren't able to get that into the bill, but at a minimum, the...
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before he became chief counsel and deputy staff director for the finance committee, he worked for eight years as democratic chief counsel at the senate environment and public works committee. so his experience in committee leadership is vast and broad. he is now working on a book that is tentatively titled "shakespeare's guide to american politics." so, we are fortunate here to have mike talk to us about how united states politics has been historically influenced by shakespeare, and how we might look at it from shakespeare's eyes. michael. [applause] mr. evans: thank you so much jane, and thanks to chuck and all of the capitol hill historical society for holding this event. thank all of you for coming. two disclaimers -- there will be no swordplay. and for those of you who were hoping to get me to recommend some shakespearean insults for you to fling at your political opponents, i'm going to stay away from that and stick to the history. my interest in shakespeare came relatively late. in high school and college, i read some of the plays, but i never really got it. the language was hard
before he became chief counsel and deputy staff director for the finance committee, he worked for eight years as democratic chief counsel at the senate environment and public works committee. so his experience in committee leadership is vast and broad. he is now working on a book that is tentatively titled "shakespeare's guide to american politics." so, we are fortunate here to have mike talk to us about how united states politics has been historically influenced by shakespeare, and...
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i am sandra lee fewer, chair of the budget and finance committee.'m joined by supervisors katherine stefani and rafael manldsleman is on his way. i'd like to thank samuel williams and carmen cooley from sfgov tv for broadcasting this. do you have any announcements? >> yes. make sure to silence your devices and include documents as part of the file should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the september 10 board
i am sandra lee fewer, chair of the budget and finance committee.'m joined by supervisors katherine stefani and rafael manldsleman is on his way. i'd like to thank samuel williams and carmen cooley from sfgov tv for broadcasting this. do you have any announcements? >> yes. make sure to silence your devices and include documents as part of the file should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the september 10 board
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i am sandra lee fewer, chair of the budget and finance committee. i'm joined by supervisors katherine stefani and rafael manldsleman is on his way. i'd like to thank samuel williams and carmen cooley from sfgov tv for broadcasting this. do you have any announcements? >> yes. make sure to silence your devices and include documents as part of the file should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the september 10 board of supervisors agenda, unless otherwise stated. >> thank you very much. i'd like to make an announcement that we will be having a short recess at 11:00 a.m. and until about 11:20 a.m. this morning. madame clerk, can you please call item number one? >> yes. item number one, retroactively authorizing the police department to accept and expand an in-kind gift of 768 units of naloxone, estimated at $57,000 through the naloxone distribution project, which is funded by the substance abuse and mental health services administration for the term of february 1, 2019 through may 30, 2019. >> thank you very much. i believe
i am sandra lee fewer, chair of the budget and finance committee. i'm joined by supervisors katherine stefani and rafael manldsleman is on his way. i'd like to thank samuel williams and carmen cooley from sfgov tv for broadcasting this. do you have any announcements? >> yes. make sure to silence your devices and include documents as part of the file should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the september 10 board of supervisors agenda, unless otherwise...
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senate finance committee democratic chief counsel michael hass discusses how the bard been invoked in historic congressional debate, in the political lessons that might he learned from his plays, especially the tragedies. >> today is very special. us, thens comes to graduate of salem state university, where he was just granted an honorary doctorate for his significant contributions to public service, so we can now call him dr. evans. [applause] small lawe went to a school called harvard, and from there, he took all that education and became a public servant. he served as the democratic staff chief cause celebre deputy staff director, has been involved as a senate staffer for more than 25 years. but he is not here to talk about the senate or to talk about the senate finance committee, does, that one instead, to talk about his passion. has been writing, thinking and researching shakespeare in congress. he wrote something that nobody else would dream of writing. [laughter] >> shakespeare's guide to tax you of this taxation? published in 2009. if you are nice, he will tell you where to fi
senate finance committee democratic chief counsel michael hass discusses how the bard been invoked in historic congressional debate, in the political lessons that might he learned from his plays, especially the tragedies. >> today is very special. us, thens comes to graduate of salem state university, where he was just granted an honorary doctorate for his significant contributions to public service, so we can now call him dr. evans. [applause] small lawe went to a school called harvard,...
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as the powerful finance committee, but instead to talk about his passion. has been writing, thinking and researching shakespeare in congress. he wrote something that nobody else would dream of writing, "shakespeare's guide to tax policy -- know you of this taxation?" published in 2009. nice, you are especially he will tell you how to find it. before he became chief counsel and deputy staff director for the finance committee, he worked for eight years as democratic chief counsel at the senate environment and public works committee. so his experience in committee leadership is vast and broad. he is now working on a book that is tentatively titled "shakespeare's guide to american politics." so, we are fortunate here to have mike talk to us about how united states politics has been historically influenced by shakespeare, and how we might look at it from shakespeare's eyes. michael. [applause] mr. evans: thank you so much jane, and thanks to chuck and all of the capitol hill historical society for holding this event. thank all of you for coming. two disclaimers
as the powerful finance committee, but instead to talk about his passion. has been writing, thinking and researching shakespeare in congress. he wrote something that nobody else would dream of writing, "shakespeare's guide to tax policy -- know you of this taxation?" published in 2009. nice, you are especially he will tell you how to find it. before he became chief counsel and deputy staff director for the finance committee, he worked for eight years as democratic chief counsel at the...
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i'm not seeing any now, so we can move on to today's report on the budget and finance planning committee. >> the budget and finance planning committee met immediately before this meeting. we reviewed a few separate contracts. there are four separate contracts to provide pharmacy registry services through december 31, 2021. two of them are existing -- existing contractors and two of them are new contractors. so as we'll be considering in the next item, the consent calendar, there's a caveat on those two new vendors, we will receive to the board to review, and the secretary, mark, will be getting those. the reason that we need of course these pharmacy registration temporary personnel services is to cover vacation times, times when there's high vacation activity, and times when persons are being trained on epic. we have additional contracts with regard to network and security support services as well as epic go live activation and adoption plan. and then, we have three different contracts relates to healthy -- related to healthy sf and kid is in particular. i would like to say that while he
i'm not seeing any now, so we can move on to today's report on the budget and finance planning committee. >> the budget and finance planning committee met immediately before this meeting. we reviewed a few separate contracts. there are four separate contracts to provide pharmacy registry services through december 31, 2021. two of them are existing -- existing contractors and two of them are new contractors. so as we'll be considering in the next item, the consent calendar, there's a...
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i would like to continue this item until the next meeting of the budget and finance committee, which is the 18th, i believe. >> would you like me to read item number 3? >> yes, i'm so sorry. >> item number 3, resolution authorizing the director of property to sell up to 550,000 gross square feet of remaining transferable development rights authorized from the war memorial complex at 301 and 401 at fair market value. >> as i said, i would like to continue this next meeting, which i believe is september 18th. but let's first hear public comment. any members? seeing none, public comment is closed. we will hear the daily report and also staff report at that time and i would like to make a motion to continue this item until the meeting of september 18th. we can take that without objection. thank you very much. madam clerk, can you please read item number 4? >> hearings to consider the. fund to the public utilities commission in the amount of 3 million to fund the operation, no cost of the solar assess programme for 2019-2020. >> thank you very much. is it angela putane from sfc power. >>
i would like to continue this item until the next meeting of the budget and finance committee, which is the 18th, i believe. >> would you like me to read item number 3? >> yes, i'm so sorry. >> item number 3, resolution authorizing the director of property to sell up to 550,000 gross square feet of remaining transferable development rights authorized from the war memorial complex at 301 and 401 at fair market value. >> as i said, i would like to continue this next...
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i'm sandra lee, chair of the budget and finance committee and i'm joined my my supervisors and our clerk. i would like to thank sandra williams for broadcasting this meeting. madam clerk, any announcements? >> please silence all cell phones and electronic devices. anything part of the file should be submitted to the clerk and iteming will appear on the september 17th, board of agenda. >> madam clerk, call item number one. >> finding the proposed updated port shoreline protection at a san francisco international airport fiscally feasible pursuant to code 29. >> thank you. i believe we have kathy weidner, director of government affairs at the international airport. >> yes, good morning, chair and members of the committee. the items before you is an updated -- i should say the airport is seeking your approval of a previously approved shoreline protection project, fiscal feasibility report. we are asking you to find that the expanded project is fiscally feasible pursuant to chapter 29 of the city's administrative code. in 2015, the airport completed an airport shoreline protection feasibilit
i'm sandra lee, chair of the budget and finance committee and i'm joined my my supervisors and our clerk. i would like to thank sandra williams for broadcasting this meeting. madam clerk, any announcements? >> please silence all cell phones and electronic devices. anything part of the file should be submitted to the clerk and iteming will appear on the september 17th, board of agenda. >> madam clerk, call item number one. >> finding the proposed updated port shoreline...
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shakespeare enthusiast and senate finance committee democratic chief counsel michael evans discusses how the bard has been invoked in historic congressional debates, and the political lessons that might be learned from his plays, especially the tragedies. >> today is very special. mike evans comes to us a graduate of salem state university, where he was just granted an honorary doctorate for his significant service,ions to public so we can now call him dr. evans. [applause]
shakespeare enthusiast and senate finance committee democratic chief counsel michael evans discusses how the bard has been invoked in historic congressional debates, and the political lessons that might be learned from his plays, especially the tragedies. >> today is very special. mike evans comes to us a graduate of salem state university, where he was just granted an honorary doctorate for his significant service,ions to public so we can now call him dr. evans. [applause]
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investment but to catch up with the pre-war boom times more is needed says the government's finance committee chief banker. we have to bring in foreign banks to put up loans for agriculture and the manufacturing sector. yes we've had good results with loans for small projects. to really get the economy going international banks the iraqi central bank and kurdish banks all have to supply all sectors with credit as you already know and big. business is already going well at the city's biggest car market and here a car has to be impressive to sell. after all the disruption the kurds now have their eyes on the future but with tensions in the region rising again their optimism is also clouded by fear of yet another armed conflict. south to madagascar our. children in europe catch the measles only because their parents don't want them to be vaccinated on this tropical island many parents can't afford it the result is an epidemic which has cost over a $1000.00 lives. not too long ago laughter filled this fisherman's family home in madagascar but now the family is trying to cope with their grief. the
investment but to catch up with the pre-war boom times more is needed says the government's finance committee chief banker. we have to bring in foreign banks to put up loans for agriculture and the manufacturing sector. yes we've had good results with loans for small projects. to really get the economy going international banks the iraqi central bank and kurdish banks all have to supply all sectors with credit as you already know and big. business is already going well at the city's biggest car...
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i am sandra lee fewer, chair of the budget and finance committee.'m joined by supervisors katherine stefani and rafael manldsleman is on his way. i'd like to thank samuel williams and carmen cooley from sfgov tv for broadcasting this. do you have any announcements? >> yes.
i am sandra lee fewer, chair of the budget and finance committee.'m joined by supervisors katherine stefani and rafael manldsleman is on his way. i'd like to thank samuel williams and carmen cooley from sfgov tv for broadcasting this. do you have any announcements? >> yes.
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we have a housing finance committee hearing at the moment from hud secretary ben carson. ry secretary steve mnuchin has been speaking as well. we are looking for updates a little later on on housing finance reform. of course, fannie and freddie have been rallying off the back of expectations that they will be a resolution to the housing finance issue in the united states. don't forget, bloomberg subscribers can follow the proceedings on a terminal. go>. use the option live < time for a look at some of the biggest business stories, news right now. i rim co. has picked six banks for top roles in its ipo -- aramco has picked six banks for top roles in its ipo. it invited more than 20 advisory firms to compete. the ipo is expected to be the biggest ever. home fitness startup peloton plans to start its ipo roadshow this week. they plan to start marketing its offering to top it into as soon as tomorrow. peloton is seeking a valuation of $8 billion to $10 billion. jack ma is ending his 20 year reign at alibaba, one of the most spectacular creations of wealth the world is ever see
we have a housing finance committee hearing at the moment from hud secretary ben carson. ry secretary steve mnuchin has been speaking as well. we are looking for updates a little later on on housing finance reform. of course, fannie and freddie have been rallying off the back of expectations that they will be a resolution to the housing finance issue in the united states. don't forget, bloomberg subscribers can follow the proceedings on a terminal. go>. use the option live < time for a...
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i am sandra lee fewer, chair of the budget and finance committee.i'm joined by supervisors katherine stefani and rafael manldsleman is on his way.
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once they get beyond that, into the details, it's not up to them,st up for the senate finance committeee ways and means committee. if it's a republican chairman of the senate finance committee, zero is going to happen. >> that's exactly right. they have to stick to that. i think what a lot of americans are looking for is that not only is it important to defeat donald trump, but what is your vision for unifying america? where are we going to go? this idea of having lofty ideas for the american public moving forward, people want to hear that, but fundamentally you're absolutely right, who decides what legislation gets passed, that is congress. what's important in the debate is having this conversation of if you're going to run for office, are you going to make sure that you will not only hold on to the house, but is there a chance at the senate or white house. the more they can talk about a vision is very important. yesterday one of the things that resonated was julian castro when he started talking about el paso and the el paso shooting. he brought it home saying, look, he was trying to
once they get beyond that, into the details, it's not up to them,st up for the senate finance committeee ways and means committee. if it's a republican chairman of the senate finance committee, zero is going to happen. >> that's exactly right. they have to stick to that. i think what a lot of americans are looking for is that not only is it important to defeat donald trump, but what is your vision for unifying america? where are we going to go? this idea of having lofty ideas for the...
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i am the chair of the budget and finance committee. our clerk is ms. linda wong. i would like to thank sfgov tv for broadcasting. >> clerk: please silence all electronic devices. any documents to be included as part of the file should be submitted to the clerk. >> thank you, ms. wong. could you please call item number 1. >> clerk: resolution authorizing the director of property to sell up to 550,000 gross square feet of remaining transferable development rights ("tdr") previously authorized from the war memorial complex, located at 301 and 401 van ness avenue, at fair market value; >> we have the director of department of real estate here. colleagues, you might remember that we continued this item. so we haven't heard a staff presentation or the b.l.a. report. >> good morning, president fewer, supervisors. if we can go to the slides. thank you for letting me speak this morning. i am here asking for our reauthorization to sell the second tranche or part of transferable development rights from the war memorial. in january of 2014, by resolution 16-14, the board of s
i am the chair of the budget and finance committee. our clerk is ms. linda wong. i would like to thank sfgov tv for broadcasting. >> clerk: please silence all electronic devices. any documents to be included as part of the file should be submitted to the clerk. >> thank you, ms. wong. could you please call item number 1. >> clerk: resolution authorizing the director of property to sell up to 550,000 gross square feet of remaining transferable development rights...
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somebody has to reach out to these committees and to the finance committee to say is likely this will happen someday are you talking to states this is the beginning of the garden of that the stimulus can grow. >> so to give ed as broader lessons learned but what about the others? >> yes. respect. respect each other. >> upward north and all the people we spoke to with the counterparts. and that hostility to the federal and state governments. >> you have to deal so to look at how the states are. and to be very transparent but they have to communicate with each other that was very important those have to take place as well. >> i agree. if that attitude is here today there was a real fear of what was happening and then to talk and cooperate to figure it out. and so the communication was really important. but we never could of got the money out like we did. like the feds or the state for lack of a better term so that when this happens and the money becomes available this process will come into play so if you think about it before it is even it was nice to do it ahead of time but the playbo
somebody has to reach out to these committees and to the finance committee to say is likely this will happen someday are you talking to states this is the beginning of the garden of that the stimulus can grow. >> so to give ed as broader lessons learned but what about the others? >> yes. respect. respect each other. >> upward north and all the people we spoke to with the counterparts. and that hostility to the federal and state governments. >> you have to deal so to look...
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. >> you worked on a report issued today in the finance committee, which you're also on, about the nraand it's been getting a lot of headlines. saem essentially saying it was acting as a foreign interest if i'm not mistaken in 2016. what are you fiendsing in that investigation? >> well, the report turns up the unpleasant fact that the "r" in nra really stands for russian. the fact is that we looked at the runup to the 2016 election and it was very clear that russia was using russian nationals, maria butina, mr. tortion, as a way to get nra insiders in effect promising the lucrative kinds of business deals to grease their access into the united states. also, what we were able to expose is this trip in october of 2015 the nra lied about. they didn't say that it was an official trip. it was, and it was all about nra insiders trying to enrich themselves personally. and that's why the next step is i'm going to be looking at whether or not their tax exemption should stand given the fact this is mostly about self-dealing and personal enrichment. >> do you think the things exposed and also thi
. >> you worked on a report issued today in the finance committee, which you're also on, about the nraand it's been getting a lot of headlines. saem essentially saying it was acting as a foreign interest if i'm not mistaken in 2016. what are you fiendsing in that investigation? >> well, the report turns up the unpleasant fact that the "r" in nra really stands for russian. the fact is that we looked at the runup to the 2016 election and it was very clear that russia was...
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shakespeare enthusiast and senate finance committee democratic chief counsel michael hass discusses howbeen invoked in historic congressional debate, in the political lessons that might he learned from his plays, especially the tragedies. >> today is very special. us, thens comes to graduate of salem state university, where he was just granted an honorary doctorate for his significant contributions to public service, so we can now call him dr. evans. [applause] small lawe went to a school called harvard, and from there, he took all that education and became a public servant. he served as the democratic staff chief cause celebre deputy staff director, has been involved as a senate
shakespeare enthusiast and senate finance committee democratic chief counsel michael hass discusses howbeen invoked in historic congressional debate, in the political lessons that might he learned from his plays, especially the tragedies. >> today is very special. us, thens comes to graduate of salem state university, where he was just granted an honorary doctorate for his significant contributions to public service, so we can now call him dr. evans. [applause] small lawe went to a school...
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this is the september 25th, 2019, regular meeting of the budget and finance committee. and i'm joined by supervisors stefani and mandelman. madam clerk, do you have any announcements? >> yes. please make sure to silence all cell phones and electronic devices. speaker cards and any documents should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the october 1, 21
this is the september 25th, 2019, regular meeting of the budget and finance committee. and i'm joined by supervisors stefani and mandelman. madam clerk, do you have any announcements? >> yes. please make sure to silence all cell phones and electronic devices. speaker cards and any documents should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the october 1, 21
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for months the senate finance committee, the senate health and human services and the senate judiciary committee have been working on this issue. and the same is true in the house. there are multiple bipartisan ideas both houses of congress could act on. but speaker pelosi's bill is not the answer to high drug costs. the speaker's bill would force drug companies to either accept government price controls or face up to a 95% tax on the sale of their drugs. that's right, mr. president, 95%. this is not a good-faith effortdom to the table to talk -- ef -- good-faith effort to come to the table to talk about drug prices. right now america is a leader in the development of new treatments. the speaker's bill would threaten that. under his bill research into new treatments and cures would decrease. we need to address high drug prices but discouraging the innovation that lass improved -- that has improved the lives of so many americans is not the way to go about it. the speaker's proposal would do exactly what democrats larger socialist health care fantasy would do. and that is to hurt america
for months the senate finance committee, the senate health and human services and the senate judiciary committee have been working on this issue. and the same is true in the house. there are multiple bipartisan ideas both houses of congress could act on. but speaker pelosi's bill is not the answer to high drug costs. the speaker's bill would force drug companies to either accept government price controls or face up to a 95% tax on the sale of their drugs. that's right, mr. president, 95%. this...
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had been a real voting session you would never have a finance committee meeting half an hour later.rs. they can't pass anything in half an hour. so you had members preparing for the finance committee, they weren't going to go to an empty house floor where no business was going to happen, unless they happened to be walking past, which is why you had nine members. there was to be no business conducted at that time. so they were busy doing other things. >> you probably saw the clip we played earlier. that was from state representative deb butler and her protest on the house floor that took place on wednesday. obviously that has gone viral. a lot of folks in this country have seen it. listen to what she had to say on our air just yesterday. >> they couldn't beat us fair and square, ken dis. we had them on the votes. they have tried to bribe us. they have tried to catch us with our pants down. they have done every shady trick in the book. and we have held firm. >> do you agree with that, representative, sir? >> deb is absolutely right. i even like her phrasing, they can't beat us fair an
had been a real voting session you would never have a finance committee meeting half an hour later.rs. they can't pass anything in half an hour. so you had members preparing for the finance committee, they weren't going to go to an empty house floor where no business was going to happen, unless they happened to be walking past, which is why you had nine members. there was to be no business conducted at that time. so they were busy doing other things. >> you probably saw the clip we played...
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i got to be cochairman of the illinois finance committee with a friend of yours, jim crown.e worked for penny pritzker. and that was a magical thing to be able to be involved on the ground floor. and then once he was elected president, i got to be cochairman of the inauguration. and that was special. and what was really special, when he first got elected, we were the temporary transition headquarters at ariel. so for three days, he was there helping to form the government. david: ok. john: and it is something you never forget. david: now, you helped him in his campaign. he is using your offices for the transition. did he offer you a job, and if so, why did you not take it? john: we never really had that conversation. i love investing and i love our business, and i have a great team, as i mentioned earlier, at ariel, so there was never a thought that i would go to washington. david: are you worried about a recession in the near future? john: i am not worried about the -- a recession. warren buffett, you know, always says that last century, the dow started at 66 and ended at o
i got to be cochairman of the illinois finance committee with a friend of yours, jim crown.e worked for penny pritzker. and that was a magical thing to be able to be involved on the ground floor. and then once he was elected president, i got to be cochairman of the inauguration. and that was special. and what was really special, when he first got elected, we were the temporary transition headquarters at ariel. so for three days, he was there helping to form the government. david: ok. john: and...
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this year from the department of pesticide regulation, about $160,000 and it's before the board finance committee for except and expand to follow up on our previous work in installing perfect prevention measures. so it's an overlap with what the earlier speakers were talking about. when you seal out perfects, you're improving energy efficiency as well. we're justing getting going on that project. also, integral to the ipm programme, we have annual training and ipm covering the city's gardeners, public works and we have monthly meetings where we have speakers and continuing education credits and we have almost monthly trainings for folks in the programme. there are many other approaches taken to avoid the use of pesticides including mechanical control and we're trying to be intellectually honest. it has been quantified there's a cancer risk to inhaling these fumes all day. our approach to that has been to look for safer mechanical controls. we had pilot testing on rechargeable landscaping equipment this year which the new generation of this equipment is much better and longer lasting. the batteryi
this year from the department of pesticide regulation, about $160,000 and it's before the board finance committee for except and expand to follow up on our previous work in installing perfect prevention measures. so it's an overlap with what the earlier speakers were talking about. when you seal out perfects, you're improving energy efficiency as well. we're justing getting going on that project. also, integral to the ipm programme, we have annual training and ipm covering the city's gardeners,...