the first has to do with electronic taxi access and the second has to do with financial data disclosure with regard to the first what this is mainly doing is establishing the requirements for realtime data transmission from dispatch services basically to a virtual hub that will gather all of this information much of what is in here was already approved by the board we're actually adjusting a date from february 28th to i think april 30th so a number of the changes in here are merely date changes but we are requiring submission of realtime data from the dispatch services to the central hub and then an app developer can connect into and would be valuable to the riding public have access to all the taxi cabs in san francisco. it wouldn't preclude them from selecting a taxi company of their choice we understand there's brand loyalty and we don't want to stand in the way of people doing that but we want people to have access to all the taxis in san francisco that are available and in service that's the thrust of the electronic taxi access system changes that we're including here and to the ex

providing financial data. we are delaying monitors for ramp aps. >> next speaker. (calling names) >> directors i would like to echo some of the things that john lazaro mentioned as far as developing his own app, spending money to develop his own app. we will put one out in the next couple of weeks which will echo a lot of features. we will expand our dispatch service, to have some of those

providing financial data. we are delaying monitors for ramp aps. >> next speaker. (calling names) >> directors i would like to echo some of the things that john lazaro mentioned as far as developing his own app, spending money to develop his own app. we will put one out in the next couple of weeks which will echo a lot of features. we will expand our dispatch service, to have some of those features that will allow the drivers to connect with their passengers by phone on the way. we are spending money and time to expand. the biggest problem i have, that i want to address, with what is on the agenda today besides being against it is the way he came here before you today. when something as important as the proposed legislation is before the board of supervisors, is relegated to the committee. the supervisors looked it over, and presented back to the board. we had a lot of time to discuss this. even though there has been some talk about an app developed as far as specifics, with excerpts, and the actual specifics of what was all about were put up friday afternoon which

providing financial data. we are delaying monitors for ramp aps. >> next speaker. (calling names) >> directors i would like to echo some of the things that john lazaro mentioned as far as developing his own app, spending money to develop his own app. we will put one out in the next couple of weeks which will echo a lot of features. we will expand our dispatch service, to have some of those features that will allow the drivers to connect with their passengers by phone on the way. we are spending money and time to expand. the biggest problem i have, that i want to address, with what is on the agenda today besides being against it is the way he came here before you today.

currently, only the fbi has access to the treasury's financial crimes end forcement network data basebut pretty soon the cia and national security agency could get full access too, but is it legal? fox news senior judicial analyst, judge andrew nap napolitano, judge, it's got to be an infringement. >> it is. is it legal under current federal law, and the other is is it constitutional even if it's legal? it's legal because congress has said it's legal. in statutes enacted before and since 9/11, the federal government authorized itself to gather information from us without using search warrants, financial information, to store it, and to share it with other aspects of itself, but prior to today, the presidents of the united states have told us, if you trust them, that they will keep that information just in the hands of the fbi and the treasury department. gerri: that doesn't make me feel better. >> well, no, it doesn't, but the fbi has indicated that because this information was not obtained by a search warrant, it can't use it in a federal prosecution because they know that a judge wo

the thought of storing so much financial data in a phone can make some people jittery.so experts recommend adding an extra layer of pin protection before your wallet goes virtual. and sign up for a service or download a security that can disable the phone remotely if it is lost or stolen. warm weather out there today. the warm weather is going to continue for the next several daysment tomorrow we'll wake up to fog near the coastline. that will give way to sunshine and temperatures just about where they were at today. a lot of 70s. as we head into wednesday though, less sea breeze winds means we'll see warmer conditions everywhere. even at the coastline. more on that in a moment. first let's check out this fog. tomorrow morning hugging the coastline, spilling over into the penninsula the 6:00 hour patchy fog down the penninsula and patchy fog down the delta. it will clear out. 11:00 back to the coastline. we'll see patches of fog along the coast. radar pictures showing high clouds overhead. high pressure building offshore. driving the storm to the north. we're capturing

michael hodel tracks carriers for the financial data firm morningstar. "this is a situation where a technicality has been used to do something it was never intended to do." the obama adminstration says copyright law was never intended to be this restrictive. it's asked the fcc, commerce department and others to look into changing the law. if that happens, some predict the price of cellphones and smartphones may rise quickly. "it is no secret that consumers will pay more for phones, because the carrier isn't going to absorb the cost. they'll front-load the contracts so you'll pay more up-front and the value of the phone will die at the end of two years." verizon, at&t and other carriers have backed the restriction as it stands now. the wireless association, known as ctia, a trade group representing cellphone companies, says an exception is not necessary because carriers have liberal unlocking policies - anecdotally, cell phone users say this often comes with a fee. this week, the library of congress issued a statement saying that the matter should be revi

but as i look and kind of summarize all of this financial data and we have a lot of it today, the bottom line here is that we're going to have an event that is in all likelihood going to cost zero dollars to our general fund. we have an event that is going to create over $900 million of local economic activity and translates into approximately 6500 jobs, new jobs. a lot of cities would pay a lot of money to see that happen. and we're going to in all likelihood have zero costs it coming from our general fund. it is obviously accelerated a lot of projects along the waterfront that would have been done otherwise. and i think also the one thing that's so tough to quantify is a sense of civic pride that an event like the america's cup does for a city. last summer, i can't tell you how many people friends of mine, family members of mine that saw the cloudless day of sale on the bay in san francisco with these colorful boats. i'm not a sailor, but i thought it was a spectacular event to watch. and seeing our city on national tv i think is nothing but a great thing and it's such a great light. e

live in america's financial data yes i'm going to be done like about every once in a while to collect my checks are committing mass of financial fraud like i do with the oil i authorize and i knew about it i didn't a massive fraud i could not get my check i go back up americans for the children. well the tapeworm especially adapted to parasite it has no gut. head or light sensing organs but has a unique surface able to withstand its host digestive acids while still absorbing nutrient sickened by just those acids by putting those toxic risks all the bills to the federal reserve bank so they want to bail them out because he's a parasite parasite jamie diamond eidos in the valley of the u.s. economy. jamie diamond i'm going to destroy your love tapeworms can grow up to ten feet in this case jamie dimon i think is only about i thought seven. votes you know bob his weight is a tape worm. farms also from this genetic decoding of their d.n.a. they found that they're actually remarkably similar to a cancer so again that's a very apt comparison to make jamie dimon to the tapeworm absolutely yo

continued to kind of rape and pillage for many many years afterwards and when you look at the financial data who was making money on that day who had the knowledge it does not lead you back to the official tenets of the official story so it begs one that asked some questions and actually considered what is the relevant data that we have to make this decision with and let's not neglect any relevant aspects and even in the investigation richard i remember government officials saying it's not relevant who was who had for knowledge to bet on the stock options because it's not arabs and that's even more interesting i mean the fact that rich white bankers were betting that these stocks would fail and for all of the attacks really interesting as they could hear you speak you spoke out very loudly about this issue richard but even in the alternative media i haven't even seen then picking up this story that could blow why dope in all of these banks wall street and a collusion with the government i mean why do you think this story isn't more prevalent why i think that you know it's a bunch of simple a

became president, he's done more than 180 degrees, he thinks he can kill people and take our financial dataany president to do this. charles: and we never authorized and to your point, he run on thon-- he didn't run on this. and i want to see where this ends up, like obituaries. like all of the samsung phones, why can't we invest in the company? and political, corporate intrigue, all of this stuff you'll want to hear next. before copd... i took my son fishing every year. we had a great spot, not easy to find, but worth it. but with copd making it hard to breathe, i thought those days might be over. so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it helps significantly improve my lung function starting within five minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. with symbicort, today i'm breathing betr. and that means...fish on! symbicort is for copd including chronic bronchiti and emphysema. it shoulnot be taken more than twice a day. symbicort may increase your risk of lung infections, osteoporosis, and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high bl

>> reporter: the financial reporting firm equifax confirms that some of its data was accessed illegally. another company, transunion, says its information was breached wheh sophisticated perpetrators posed as account holders. cnn's brian todd explains how it works: >> "experts say perpetrators do that by first getting your social security number or date of birth from another source, then they either call a credit agency or go online posing as you to get all the financial data they can." >> reporter: so now we know paris hilton has lost her mastercard four times. but with the first lady among the victims, along with hillary clinton and vice president joe biden, the secret service is involved. the fbi is investigating because director robert mueller's information was posted. and the los angeles police department is on the case because chief charlie beck is also on the list. >> we will vigorously pursue the individuals who have me a victim and have made a number of other people who are in the public eye victims >> reporter: the only clue to the hackers' motivation is their shout=out to tv'

citizen financial data more in the cyber defense build up later in the show. and it was nearly ten years ago the iraq war started the u.s. invaded over claims the country was producing weapons of mass destruction but that wasn't the case along with the thousands of lives lost on both sides will look at the financial impact the war has had here in the u.s. . it's wednesday march thirteenth pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our t.v. will begin on capitol hill where hearings were held today on the issues of cyber security and transparency the obama administration has placed cyber security on the top of the agenda there is a heated debate over how to tackle the issue while protecting citizens privacy and when it comes to transparency the obama administration has vowed to be more open from the secret drone campaign to cracking down on whistleblowers some question just how transparent the administration really is for more on the developments on capitol hill today i'm joined now by our view producer adriano sorrow and r.t. correspondent mega

it involves personal private financial data as well as personal photographs that kind of stuff. hackers got into their personal computers the stuff waudz posted to the web site that has sufficiesuffix that would take you to the fbi. there is a group a hacker group out of russia which is saying they are going to target bank accounts of average americans try to steal money before spring starts. this may not be the same thing. something to think about check your anti virus software on your computer change your pass word on your bank account. >> it is down now. >> no, it was not down. >> tuition prices and colleges. >> 201 to 2011 shot up 93 percent for public private institutions. wall street journal reporting private liberal arts colleges like in alma college. $2,500 back if you apply today. $2,500 towards research project or internship or even free classes if you should have to stay longer than the four years. apparently a lot of liberal arts colleges are doing this. the pool of graduates from high school is shrinking. we have fewer high school graduates than years ago. u.s. news

they are claim to go give them financial data on every person who banks in the u.s.cording to the routers report. the government said data will be used to look at suspicious activity which clou plots against the u.s. >> while she was probably the most popular girl in school for a short time until she got caught a fist grader brought 20,000 dollars of cash and handed it out. another student asked about her pack back and the girl started handing them out like a mini atm machine. >> word got around and kids started coming to her asking for the money. she started giving it away as much as $500 to one student. a couple hundred to some other students. it was very, very unusual. something that we don't usually deal with. our students don't come to school with that much money if any money at all. >> the girl says a neighbor another child gave her the bag full of cash. police are trying to figure out who it really belongs to and how it all happened. that's your 5@5:30. >>> before you leave the house this morning let's get your first degree weather update with janice dean. >>

a website with a ghoulish-looking girl on the main page is listing information as the financial datarney general's eric holder's information is on there. we cannot verify that this data is accurate, but the credit agency equifax confirms its reports for four individuals were accessed without authorization. another credit agency, trans union tells us its information was breached when sophisticated perpetrators posed as account holders on the internet. >> this is a grotesque invasion of privacy because this is the most private information on anyone you can find in one document. >> reporter: privacy expert offof en evan hendrick. >> only the ndz can know for sure if it's his or her own credit report, but if i had to bet, i'd say this is legit. >> regarding michelle obama as wellas vice president biden and hillary clinton, the secret service and fiber investigating if the information on the website is theirs and if so, how it got there. a law enforcement official tells cnn investigators will try to get records from internet service providers. we reached out to representatives for kim kar

panama city, long a destination for eager spring breakers and a source for plenty of spring break financial data. tax revenue may increase during the college boom but it's negligible. a 2004 study showed that six straight weeks of spring break brought in $170 million to the local economy. but that the sales tax revenues collected in the month of march were among the lowest of the year. other beaches in florida see more action. in the travel promotion site orbits half of the destinations are in the sunshine state. miami's mayor says spring breakers in the city are a bit of a mixed bag. >> the good news is business in downtown was very happy. there was traffic, gridlock, and, of course, people in offices and residences downtown were complaining about the noise and the traffic and the kids roaming around at 2:00 a.m. or 3:00 am in the morning. >> reporter: but even if spring break doesn't really boost a city's bottom line, hollywood has found a way to cash in. a new movie aptly titled "spring breakers" captures the phenomenon. spring breakers may be low on inhibitions but in the end they're also lo

another source, then they either call a credit agency or go online posing as you to get all the financial data" so now we know paris hilton has lost her mastercard four times. but with the first lady among the victims, along with hillary clinton and vice president joe biden, the secret service is involved. the fbi is investigating because director robert mueller's information was posted. and the los angeles police department is on the case because chief charlie beck is also on the list. >> we will vigorously pursue the individuals who have me a victim and have made a number of other people who are in the public eye victims the once-- world's most- wanted computer hacker kevin mitnick explains just how easy it is to get his hands on your personal information. mitnick also explains what you can do to prevent identity theft. >> catherine: what you can do to prevent identity theft? >> there are data bases on the internet that private investigators use. to do these types of searches are only 25¢ to $1. anybody can get this type of interrogations. the milk is spilled. really, as scott mcnealy once s

financial stocks also higher or ahead of new data on the health of the nation's banks. dick bove going to be here with the reasons why he thinks banks are stronger now than ever in the past fife years. five years. and the cyber threat, big brother may be watching you. are u.s. spy agencies monitoring your finances? we're all over it with your best coverage on sign or news. dennis: top of the hour, we've got nicole petallides on the floor of the stock exchange. >> reporter: another record here for the dow jones industrials today, another up day again. we're challenging the streak that we had back in 1996, so right now we've had seven consecutive closes with records, and we had nine consecutive up days. now we're pushing for the eight and the ten, and that would really take out those numbers that we saw in '96. that being said, the dow right now is up 58 points, that's worth almost a half of 1% in, ad the nasdaq and s&p both higher. the s&p getting close to its all-time high as well. i want to take a rook at a name that -- look at a name on the s&p 500 that's the fourth b

their personal information and in some cases financial data may have been hacked.e justice department says it could be hacking or docs'ing. a police officer in iowa saves a driver. officer zack mcdowell makes a couple of attempts to get into the burning car. finally able to reach in and drags the unconscious driver out. driver is in the hospital and is expected to recover. he will face a charge for reckless driving. doing doughnuts when the car crashed into an air conditioning unit and then caught fire. >>> today, could be a major turning point for james holmes. the man accused of killing 12 people inside an aurora, colorado, movie theater. holmes expected to enter a plea. in the past, his attorneys have suggested that holmes could use an insanity defense and that could change the entire case proceeds. jim spellman has more for you. >> reporter: nearly eight months after the aurora theater shooting that killed 12 and wounded 58, james holmes is expected to enter pleas to 166 counts of murder, attempted murder and related charges. >> 109, they need you hot to the fr

what is the fed doing in your own networks to strengthen financial data protection and enhance the cybersecurity in the financial sector? >> mr. chairman, your point is right. cybersecurity insurgence in the financial system has become more acute lately. there have been a number of so- called server attacks on banks, which essentially fled the websites and prevent the public from accessing their accounts. these are quite disruptive them problematic. the leadership on cyber security for the financial system is being taken on one hand by the treasury and on the other hand by the various intelligence agencies. we are engaged in cooperating with these agencies and sharing information and working with banks to make sure they have the appropriate procedures and oversight in place to deal with such problems. we do not have to press them hard. they recognize it is in their own interest to do whatever they can to rent these attacks from being affect. >> some urge the fed to focus on inflation, which has been a bigger threat since 2007. chairman bernanke, what steps has the fed taken to -- >> we have a ne

months, from january to april, the cio did not send for the occ executive manager report with this financial data. in february and march it did not send the occ its valuation control group reports with verified profit and loss data for the synthetic credit portfolio. is that true, ms. drew? those reports were not sent during that month. is that true? >> i do not know senator. i have no part of reports into any regulators and certainly if i would have known they weren't being sent i would have considered that the wrong thing to do. >> all right, so you don't know whether they were and if he -- if they weren't sent you do not know why? who was in charge of getting those reports to the ccc and we are suddenly missing february march. who is in charge of having those reports to the occ? >> it's my understanding that both risk -- >> give us the names of people if you would. who would have been would have been in charge? >> i don't have a specific verse and that but within the risk and financial organizations and end all and all contact was made with the occ. >> mr. weiland do you know the answer to tha

data, one of the nations largest is the investment bank. according to mr. waterhouse, the occ had to escalate the issue to you, mr. baustein, chief financialofficer to reverse the decision, which he did. during a meeting between you, mr. diamond and mr. waterhouse cup could be claimed clearer that the data cut off. that correct? >> yes. >> to the bank stop sending the populace data for the investment bank for a period of time? was to re-colonel bob? >> senator, it is approximately two weeks. >> did you restore that data quite >> yes, sir, i did. >> to mr. diamond see why he had ordered the data stopped? >> prior to stopping the data, a number of regulators had reaches in some information be shared with them. there have been mistaken losses of information and so we wanted to ensure prior to restarting the data that we had adequate controls in place to ensure that data got to the regulators sent only to the regulators. >> did you notify them that was your reason? >> i did speak during the course of that period of time. >> he told them that was the reason the information was not coming to them? to january, february time. >> when you're not de

lahood stier points are not backed up by financial data and may suggest that the faa to 500 elion and 200 million on supplies and travel. i know this is the faa, but do you think that is something they can focus on? >> we could not achieve savings that way and i'll be glad to document why. i'm a first find out what the sequestered means. two thirds basically -- 74% of our department is exempt from the sequestered, which means the sequestration cut followed on a portion of the department, primarily the federal aviation commission. a 5% cut is the equivalent of a 9% cut -- >> my question is does the faa part of your budget spend 500 million a year -- >> those categories exist. this fitness categories is important. >> let me ask another way. this buyer and i discovered this two weeks ago that we all remember the gsa to las vegas for this $600 per day per conference and if you set as a benchmark, 183 times agencies have exceeded that mark and conferences. i remember defense was 50 times and they had exceeded the benchmark. in the past year has the department of transportation helped confe

from january to april, the cio did not send to the occ its executive management report with its financial dataruary and march it did not send to the occ its valuation control group reports with verified profit loss data for the synthetic credit portfolio. is that true, miss drew? those reports were not sent during those months. is that true? >> i did not know, senator. i had no part of reports being sent to any regulators. certainly, if i had known they were being sent i would have considered that the wrong thing to do. >> all right. >> so you don't know whether they were sent or not. >> i do not. >> and if they weren't sent you don't know why? >> i do not. >> who was in charge of getting those reports to the occ? suddenly they're missing during february and march. who was in charge of getting those reports to the occ? >> it's my understanding that both risk and finance -- >> people. give us the names of people if you would, who would have been in charge of it. >> i don't have a specific person, but within the risk and the finance organizations, any and all contact was made with the occ. >> mr

you're not getting the kind of participation we've been getting on strong days in the financial sector. the dataas been strong. obviously the data today really giving the market a nice boost. trading relatively flat. maybe up small. in the premarket, suddenly we started to move to the upside. the data has been strong. the pharmaceuticals remain incredibly rezsilient and move o the upside. part of the reason they're going there, scott, people are looking for yield, of course, and looking at valuations. they're not overly stretched. look at the biotech world. go back to the big farm. merck, bristol. go across the entire area. lily. they all seem cheap. that's an area i've been adding to. that along with energy. i'm a little puzzled by the financials right now. >> joe, got to figure we're going to get the record. it's a matter of time the s&p is going to get that closing high. where are we going to go? earnings season is in front of us now. that's going to be the tale. >> we're going to continue to move higher unless we get some storm of evidence to suggest otherwise. i just don't see it. you have

plans are in the works to create a "financial database" for intelligence agencies. the database would track data on everyone who banks in the u.s. according to documents aquired by reuters, the treasury department is intending to give agencies more access to financial documents to detect crimes and terrorist networks. no word yet on when the database will be up and running. treasury secretary jack lew is quickly moving into his new position. he's scheduled to meet with china's new leaderhip in bejing next week. while there, he plans to fight the weak chinese yuan, which hurts american manufacturers. yesterday, in his first trip since taking office, lew traveled to a siemens manufacturing plant in georgia, where he talked about the importance of innovation and job creation to strengthen the middle class. "when we talk about advanced manufacturing jobs in america, there is a bright future. there is truly the possibility of an american manufacturing renissance. we have some responsibility in terms of infrastructure but also in terms of reforming our tax code." lew also talked about reducing the def

league baseball as an industry is worth just a fraction of the financial industry, i found that major league baseball, through using their data, does a better job of evaluating their employees in terms of looking at their skill sets instead of results than maybe the financial industry does. >> okay. so let me put that to the test. the 2013 season just around the corner, getting under way in terms of the spring training. opening day two weeks away. who is undervalued in your view? >> i think the tampa bay rays are undervalued and the cleveland indians are undervalued. those will be two great examples in the american league. and because they're undervalued, there should be somebody that is overvalued and i think it's the toronto blue jays. toronto signed all these flashy free agents and congratulate greatly improved themselves, but the underlying core, the change from where they're starting from, i think they're vastly overvalued and people are missing that it's the tampa bay rays that is the best core talent. >> all right. sticking your neck out with a program. thank you so much. joe peta joining us. >>> up next, a look at the

league baseball as an industry is worth just a fraction of the financial industry, i found that major league baseball through using their data does a better job with evaluating their employees in terms of looking at their skill sets instead of results and than maybe the financial industry does. >> let me put that to the test. the 2013 season just around the corner getting under way in terms of spring training. opening day two weeks away. who is undervalued in your view. >> tampa bay rays and cleveland indians are undervalued. those are two great examples in the american league. because they are undervalued, there should be somebody overvalued, i think it's toronto blue jays. they signed flashy free agents, improved themselves. the underlying core, the change where they started from, they are vastly undervalued and i think people are missing tampa bay rays with the talent. >> sticking your neck out. thank you so much. joe peta joining us. >>> the news this coming week will have an impact "on the money." a summer of sweetness for a snack cake. where you can find your twinkie fix following one delicious deal. stay with us. i re

we concluded from an examination of the data that the impact of external financial shocks deteriorating export markets and financial sector and eurozone faculties were the more likely explanations. that is what they said. the shadowair to chancellor, in his own press release, he said that the obr has yet to be persuaded if i have to tell him, his plan of more spending and more borrowing and more debt, the country will never he persuaded. >> the prime minister's clearly living in a fantasy life. he wants us to believe that the head of the office it -- the head of the officer budget responsibility wrote in an open agreed withthey him. actually, what he said in the letter is that we believe that fiscal consolidation may have reduced economic growth over the past couple of years and and yesterday, mr. speaker, we learned that industrial production is at the lowest level for 20 years. that set alarm bells ringing for everyone else in this country. why not for the prime minister? thate first point is manufacturing declined as a share of our gdp faster under the government of which he was a me

so these data provide several lessons for anyone interested in thinking about expanding financial access through payment. first, the pilot indicated that it is a consumer appetite for some of these newer products. data showing that unbank, low and moderate income households were significant more likely to apply for the tax timecard underscores the interest. second, we learned about product features matter. in this case, destruction of a large impact on update. taken together, these two findings suggest that developing the right product in fees and features is an important step in helping to unlock potential demand for these types of products. i believe the lessons from this pilot also serve to inform our continued effort to connect american households, particularly unbanked and lower and middle income households with safe, affordable products to meet their needs. the move to electronic payments have significantly altered the financial landscape, which i said, and at the same time innovation and technology, and also the use of data, is radically changing the personal finance experience. i

so these data provide several lessons for anyone interested in thinking about expanding financial accesso payments. the pilot indicated a consumer appetite for some newer products. data showing on being households were significantly more likely to apply for the tax timecard underscores the interest. secondly their product features matter. in this case, structure had a large impact on uptake. taking together, these findings suggest developing the right products in fees and features is an important step in helping to unlock attentional demand for these products. i believe the lessons from this pilot serve to affirm our continued efforts to protect american households, particularly on bank to lower and moderate households is safe affordable products to meet needs. the move to electronic payments has significantly altered the financial landscape, which i've said and did the time innovation and technology and usage data is radically changing the personal finance experience and i want to talk about this. my office is interested in exploring how mobile phone to elegies is transforming the way w

so we can improve crop yields through the use of data analysis and financial services we can better predict whose more likely to default on loans. we can better predict the rate at which we should give a loan. if there are a lot of things that can happen there. and then some of our other customers, speddia, for example, is doing work on better protect the cost of flights, there are companies like chevron which are using our software to better identify where you might find oil underneath the surface is so there is a really wide variety of range. >> finally this. the critique, david brooks had said the philosophy of the day of data is something. the big question is rewarding. in which situation should we rely on intuitive pattern recognition and ignore intuition and follow the data? >> it is a great question. another book recently which used the trades numerical imagination versus narrative imagination. and i think it's really important that we don't choose one in favor of the other. we see each for the values that they deliver. so i don't necessarily see the utter dominance of the numerical