finchem does not want you to vote for these offices. he does not want you to vote for anything or in any way then other what he prescribes. that is dangerous. >> that is an interesting perspective. mr. fontes does not priest g8 -- appreciate the separation of powers. the secretary of state does not eliminate people's ability to vote. that is up to legislature. if they want to alter the law, the job of the executive -- let me finish. are we not going to have a debate here? this is a man who supports ranked choice voting, supports people who are willing to do an assault on the state capital, the very time we are trying to pass a budget. i am not interested in litigating -- >> hold on. the question is male in voting. you want to get rid of mail in voting? >> my mindset and judgment does not matter in this regard. what i am telling you is it is not up to the secretary of state to write law and that is exactly what the current secretary of state and mr. fontes tried to do. >> you approve of mail-in voting? >> i do not care for mail-in voting

mark finchem is a republican nominee for secretary of state. he's currently a state legislator and actually tried to decertify the arizona election results back in 2020 but he failed. he's also a member of the oath keepers, that right wing paramilitary group, and he attended the capitol insurrection. according to politico, a fellow republican in the arizona house was shocked at finchem's success given, quote, mark is known as the guy that's probably the dumbest, well there's long list, but one of the dumbest legislators in the house. with friends like these. look, last night, finchem faced off with his democratic opponent, the former mayor copa county recorder who oversaw the 2020 election for really the entire country. a jarring side-by-side of two vastly different perspectives. one grounded in reality and the other grounded in the unhinged fever dreams of the big lie. >> knowing what we know today, there are certain counties that should have been set aside as irredeemably compromised. >> when we have conspiracy theories and lies like the one

the results of last night's election made clear for secretary of state, for example, mark finchem hepublican legislator in arizona, one of the leading voices in denying the results of the 2020 election that joe biden won the state of arizona he is going to be the republican nominee for the secretary of state, the top election official >> trump's candidate, mark finchem, who acknowledged having ties to the oath keepers and was in washington on january 6th. >> this is insane. we can't let a guy who wanted to overthrow the last election oversee future elections i wouldn't keep using wally as my cue card guy if he started undermining me by writing stuff i didn't approve of like, "wally is the best. he's the most popular. he should host this show." wait a second. [ laughter ] damn it! wally. i'd be mad, but what can i say i agree with you you would be a better host wait [ laughter ] just stop it the point is we need to stop these people now, which is why it is encouraging to see the justice department stepping up its investigation of the coup attempt. they're reportedly asking witnesses a

they include, to name just one example, mark finchem, that's republican amani for arizona secretary of state, who says joe biden did not win in 2020. and just recently accused former vice president mike pence of trying to steal the presidency in 2024. in michigan, the republican candidate for attorney general, matthew deperno not only denies the election results -- he's also under criminal investigation for potentially tampering with voting machines. sounds familiar? used in 2020. so, it's not just my pillow guy and his goofy acolytes. these are people who, like tina peters, could pose a serious threat to democratic legitimacy, to the administration of our elections. and they are gunning for real power. jena griswold is secretary of state in colorado. she also chairs the democratic association of secretaries of state. and she joins me now. secretary griswold, it is good to have you. first, one thing that strikes me as i think about what happened in 2020 and i think about the number of people that signed up for this almost cult like obsession with the election, is that tina peter sticks

the republican secretary of state candidate mark finchem was present at the capitol on january 6th.zer of stop the steal. he would like to strap early voting entirely and believes the state legislature will be able to veto voters picks for presidents. he is called for the arrest of arizona's current secretary of state. state katie. hobbs who you will meet in the moment. as well as his democratic opponent despite no evidence of any crime. he is basically accused the former vice president mike pence of staging a coup against donald trump. and after all of that recent polling shows that he is tied with his opponent. finally let's look at he was running for governor in arizona. kelly lake is a former news and returns as trump slogan negotiator. similar to a former president she knowingly spread's lies or supporters such as the big lie that the 2020 presidential election was rigged. she antagonizes the media and tweeted some nonsense about me just yesterday. and encourages her supporters to do the same. just this week she posted a video cheering on the reilly go who was streaming that th

meanwhile, video has surface of another election denier, mark finchem, the republican nominee for secretary of state in arizona. in a campaign speech saying former vice president mike pence stole the election from donald trump. >> mike pence seized power over the existing president. he was not president. donald trump was still president at that moment. how long has he been ordering those folks around? well, apparently from january 6th to january 20th. ladies and gentlemen, that's a coup. >> ooh, lordy. that man could be in charge of arizona's elections in 2024 if republicans win in november. this is what the republican party publicly stands for, and i do say publicly because their actual agenda, when they actually reveal what that is, is wildly unpopular and equally terrifying. you have senator rick scott of florida proposing that every five years congress has to revote to reapprove medicare and social security or else those programs will just end. senior lindsey graham introducing a bill that would ban abortion nationally after 15 weeks, an idea that is so unpopular, even some of his fello

joe biden won mark finchem insisted last night again votes from some arizona counties should be set aside. the house republican campaign arm is canceling more than $700,000 in ad support for an ohio congressional nominee after the associated press reported jr majewski misrepresented his military service. neither the nrcc nor majewski have commented on the move. a quick programming note. talking to some of the biggest names around catch "who's talking" with chris wallace sunday at 7:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. thanks for joining "inside politics." ana cabrera picks up our coverage right now. xxxx . >>> hello. thanks for joining us. i'm ana cabrera in new york. happy friday. any moment now president biden will speak in front of a friendly audience. the democratic national committee. it comes with less than 50 days left in the midterm campaign at a time when the president is increasingly leaning into political fights. as a volatile economy remains top of mind for many americans the dow down about 600 points right now. we'll bring you the president's speech live. also on our radar today

a great interview with the secretary of state republican candidate in arizona, mark finchem, who talked about if in the event that joe biden, if he ran again in 2024 and he won the state, would he certify? he remarked that that would be a fantasyland. we are way, way through the looking glass here and i have significant concerns about those that are in positions of responsibility and accountability that may be elected in 22 actually delivering for democracy in 24. christopher krebs, great have you on, thank you so much. >> just ahead, last, week is florida governor ron desantis flying migrants to martha's vineyard. today, a texas sheriff says there's plans for a flight much closer to home for president biden. details on that possible flight next. and then a look by cnn's ed lavandera about where these migrants are being told where they are being sent. and find the answer that was right under their nose. or... his nose. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates,

there was a great interview with the secretary of state republican candidate in arizona, mark finchem 2024 and he won the statewide he certify. and he remarked that would be a fantasyland. so we are way, way, way through the looking glass here, and i have significant concerns about those that are in positions of responsibility and accountability that may be elected in '22 actually delivering for democracy in '24. >> great to have you on. thank you so much. >>> just ahead last week it was florida governor ron santis throwing migrants to martha's vineyard. today a texas sheriff says there are plans for a flight much closer to home for president biden. plus a look about what these migrants are being told about where they're being sentnt. [ coughing/sneezing ] [ door knocking ] dude, you coming? alka-seltzer plus powermax gels cold & flu relief with more concentrated power. because the only thing dripping should beour style! plop plop fizz fizz, ws with alka-seltzer plus. (vo) a thin painted line. the only thing between you and a life-changing accident. but are these lines enough? a subar

mark finchem is also against mail-in voting as well.ookout for people who, quote inject fictitious votes into the system. a solution? blocking the use of voting machines in this year's election. he already filed a secretary lawsuit this year. in nevada, things are getting even more dire. the gop nominee for secretary of state there, jim merchant, has not only vowed to fight against the states switch to a predominantly by mail system. he has also pushed to get rid of voting machines altogether. he's advocating to only do hand counts and elections. and on top of that marchant has also voted ending the states voting rules, which would require people to register. that sounds familiar, it was because a tool that segregationists used to prevent black people from voting. so i don't think i am being alarmist when i say, democracy is on the ballot this year. literally. my panel joins me after the break to discuss that and more. but asthma has taken enough. so i go triple... with trelegy. with 3 medicines in 1 inhaler,... it's the only once-daily

you have a candidate named adrienne fandos running for secretary of state against a guy named mark finchemlet me just focus on this for a second for you. if an oath keeper, a guy who believes that any election that democrats win is illegitimate and he has control of the machinery of government, it basically means no democrat can win arizona in 2024 if he is elected. these races for secretary of state, in two or three key states, have been ignored by democrats who are too focused on congress. they could lose the house and it's not the end of the world. you lose the secretary of state races, big problems in 2024. >> a threat to democracy. i, mean they cannot be underscored enough. okay, my friend, a student tells us as always. thank you, jonathan. my next guest knows donald trump's business finances better than most. it's case on the new york civil fraud suit and how the former president is defending himself, next. you try crazy things... ...because you're crazy... ...and you like it. you get bigger... ...badder... ...faster. ♪ you can never have too much of a good thing... and power is a ve

the fellow running for secretary of state in arizona, mark finchem has been a qanon supporter him and a history of the dark side of the republican party for 70 years. now we see the dark side is the front side. that's all there is. the whole party has rallied behind trump and his conspiracism. and his promises to pardon the people who committed violence. last question to you, we've got to go, how concerned are you given the connections to qanon and the mainstreaming of these conspiracy theorists that we could see another january six? >> a herculean has been connected to violence again and again. trump saying that he would pardon the people who bashed in the skulls of the cops on january six, oh this is an encouragement and an incitement to violence. the crazy is getting crazier. january six do not put the brakes on. it seems to have accelerated extremism. that to me is worrisome. we collectively have yet to see any break supply on the republican embraced encouragement an exploitation of such paranoia and psychosis. >> name in the book is american psychosis, a historical investigation