really, findland? this is a huge country we live in, and i stuart think about our country as 50 different countries, particularly when it comes to education, because so much educations locally controlled. and is very different when you go from texas to vermont to california. so that satisfied me for a while. then one day i trade looking at the data on a state-by-state basis and seeing how our kids were doing compared to other countries. imagining all of our states were countries, and when you do that, you see north, only huge variations from state to state, but you see that not even some of our smallest, most homogenous states like -- those kids were performing at the level of kids in portugal, which is right around average nor developed world. so we were seeing the kinds of high flyers you would expect. but two exceptions were massachusetts and minnesota. anyone from massachusetts or minnesota? there we go. so we have two states that really were -- maybe not in the top ten but certainly the top 15 to