finkel stein came across data that there's a problem. >> again, i disagree. there are walkways. >> we saw the video, there was no walkway, nothing. >> it was just - was there a sit swell, crass? >> no, there was grass. >> again - no, you either walk on the swale, which is the city owned - city owned property or walk in the street. and again, is that - what is that stemming from. these officers don't walk out one day and say i'm going to take jay walkers, whether it was pedestrians, whether there were complaints and/or people in the neighbourhood. people walking up and down the street. there are new south wales all throughout that i'm aware of. location. >> so you don't share the view that given everything that we have seen, there are cases where police might be dispop minorities? >> absolutely not. >> it's clearly an election year for mr saks and finkel stephen, and he has been a critic of police officers as well as mr sax for many, many, many years. it's an election year, and we are spicing it up. ferguson was not an election year issue. >> i didn't say it w

stanislav lived before the war in a small village -- [speaking in native tongue] and the finkel steins, a jewell think fam -- jewish wealthy family, had a -- [inaudible] and stanislav became friends with one of the daughters of the finkelsteins. and she had been for a long time his favorite but, of course, he had no chance to marry her or to be her boyfriend. he was polish, catholic boy from a poor family, and she was a jewish girl from a wealthy family. when the war, in 1941, he knew what happened in -- [inaudible] it was the first time that the poles killed all the jews. so he was very frightened what could happen with the finningsteins -- fink beingsigns, and he wanted to help them. he told me: it was still night when people started to drive in horse wagons to settle scores with the jews. they stopped to smash the windows at -- [inaudible] and loot what they could. i promised the finkelsteins i would go and see what was going on in town. they were dragging jews out of their homes and driving them into the square. i saw little jewish kids hiding one another and bowing their heads. i