joining us now, fiona hill.on as the national security council senior director for europe kwaan and russian affairs. but she is perhaps best known for her testimony during the first trump impeachment on his efforts to strong arm ukraine's president into helping him win re-election. fiona hill is also the author, by the way, of a very important book "there is nothing for you here, finding opportunity in the 21st century." fiona, thanks so much for joining us. you hear president biden's vow to unleash what he says would be unprecedented sanctions, economic sanctions, diplomatic sanctions against putin's government if russia invades ukraine. is that going to be enough to deter putin, in your view? because you also heard the president rule out, at least for now, direct u.s. military action. >> well, it really, wolf, depends on how this is structured. it certainly won't be enough if it is just the united states taking action. so i think what's significant here is all of the talk we have heard between the president an

joining us now is fiona hill. she's the top expert on the national security council under president trump from 2017. she is the author of "there's nothing for you here," finding opportunity in the 21st century. thank you for making time to be here tonight. dr. hill, thanks for making time tonight. >> thanks so much, rachel. glad to be with you. >> let me ask you if i'm framing this the right way. it seems to me, from just the layman's perspective, that president putin has the world's attention. and he got one-on-one attention from the president of the united states today. and he's got the whole world guessing as to whether or not he's going to do something crazy, militarily, toward ukraine. but he seems to be enjoying and has been seeking the attention he got from it. is it fair to portray it that way? >> well, he certainly did want to get attention, but he wants attention for a particular purpose. putin has been signaling for quite some period time, going back over several administrations, in fact, that he wants

the other is a book by fiona hill called "there is nothing for you here."ll is a russia expert who was an adviser in the trump white house and became best known, probably when she testified during the trump impeachment trial. the first trump impeachment regarding ukraine news. >> brown: our viewers will remember that well. >> oh yes. but what is far more interesting, as is that she looks at three places that she knows well, her native england, where she grew up in a in a working class mining town, russia, which she studied as an academic. and the united states, where she's lived for many years and is a u.s. citizen and shows how very similar cultural and economic forces are propelling the rise of populism in all three places. so she's uniquely positioned to tell the story, and it's the rare trump book that doesn't obsess about trump. >> brown: jacqueline, what about put on your ung readers' hat here. >> and "your legacy" by shelly williams, which is a book about enslaved african-americans before they were enslaved. so it takes us back to africa and shows us

joining us now is fiona hill.the national security council under president trump from 20 17 to 19, she is also the author of there is nothing for you here, finding opportunity in the 21st century. doctor hill, thank you so much for taking the time to be heard tonight. >> thanks so much, rachel, great to be with you. >> let me ask you, if i'm framing this the right way, it seems to me from a layman's perspective that president putin has the world's attention. he got one on one attention from the president of the united states today, and he has the whole world guessing as to whether or not he will do something else militarily towards ukraine, but he seems to be enjoying and having seeking the attention that you got from it. is it fair to portray that way? >> well, he certainly doesn't want to get attention. but he wants attention for a particular purpose. putin has been signaling for quite some period of time going back over several administrations in fact, that he wants to see some kind of new security arrangement

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am thank you. fiona hill, who was the senior director for em. russian affairs at the honesty under donald trump. a said this year, rushers managed to turn london and all kinds of people who work into it, into one of their instruments. billions of pounds have been brought into london. we are foolish to let that continue. and chatham house, where you spoke this week, also published a report saying it was damaging the nuclear international reputation that more was not been done about cryptography at why don't you, at the bare minimum said, she says there's going to be severe consequences for russia. at least announce review into how what does seem to be up under used them. laws which are also got large holes and what are your now so review into how those laws are operating. or we do already have very strong anti corruption, an anti monitoring money laundering rules in the u. k. but let's be clear when the u. k. has wanted to send clear message is an achieve care clear goals. we have been prepared to use economic sanctions. so we are considering all options and together with our allies, inclu

there is nothing for you here, by fiona hill. ayman?y revealing book because again, this is a woman who was at the center of the impeachment of donald trump, just based on everything she had witnessed. and the fact that she talked about her own personal journey, a woman who had served both administrations, and sometimes we lose sight of that in this country, when you think of the civil servants that we have and how politicized we've become that we forget there are very decent people, some who are born overseas, some who have come from rags to riches, who heard a calling to serve, and for me, her story reveals that. it reveals that there are still good people and we need good people to be in these positions, because when you get somebody like donald trump, if you don't have good people in government, they're the people that saved us, you know, from falling down that road of authoritarianism. if you don't have good people who are going to be able to call out our world leaders and certainly american politicians, we are doomed as a country,

the coverage of the media, anything about hunter biden, anything about the money, and on hill -- fiona hillshe makes and yet she was out there talking about president trump and others people in ukraine. you have all the bidens making all this money and it's not covered. the censorship on elections and medicine, everybody trying to fight this nasty virus. medical doctors in the medical field that work with this stuff can't even say stuff online without it being censored. host: the pandemic obviously dominating for a second year 2021. it was also the year that president biden announced mandates, vaccine mandates. the supreme court we got friday is going to hear oral arguments into two cases dealing with president biden's vaccine mandates. republican governments have pushed back like ron desantis of florida. this is what he had to say about blocking the vaccine mandates. >> tennessee has done something and people were saying this was not something that was going to end up happening. if they understood what was going on. i made the call to say we've got to do this now because people are actuall

i was talking to fiona hill yesterday about this. there is always a risk when you start prosecuting the party that's out of party. you don't want to look like a banana republic to the rest of the world. but the much greater risk is to do nothing when you've got people red-handed trying to destroy our democracy. so i think the good news here is yes, the republican party is all in on the big lie, but there is something that can be done about it at the end of the day. >> i mean, the idea, again, this would be the number one headline in every newscast in this country if the barack obama administration, the obama-biden administration had said they were going plan a national security emergency to try to roll back the 2016 election because of foreign interference. they knew there was foreign interference. they put out an october information about foreign interference. had they then taken the next step and said because russia is interfering in our election, we're going declare a national security emergency, and we're going to communicate on

fiona hill who was the sort of europe boss, the russia boss brought in bite trumps a second securityopposed to what donald trump wanted to do, what he put before the american people in 2016, which is to recognize we have huge differences with russia, but try to find common interest and be on good terms, that used it to be the democrat's policy throughout much of the cold war. ted kennedy at one point wanted a hot line to the kremlin in case there was a crisis. blaming russia and exclusively for donald trump's victory taking it to such an extreme that it limited trumps ability at all to even have a workable relationship with russia and that's a problem because we had a serious fight on on our hands with china and the idea of forming a condominium between russia and china would be really bad for the us. cheryl: that's a really good point, christian. the same with-- want to stay with foreign policy with you because if you look back over that biden's administration of a foreign policy obviously you could say it's been a failure, but you cite the withdraw from afghanistan in particular an

the coverage of the media, anything about hunter biden, anything about the money, and on hill -- fiona hillshe makes and yet she was out there talking about president trump and others people in ukraine. you have all the bidens making all this money and it's not covered. the censorship on elections and medicine, everybody trying to fight this nasty virus. medical doctors in the medical field that work with this stuff can't even say stuff online without it being censored. host: the pandemic obviously dominating for a second year 2021. it was also the year that president biden announced mandates, vaccine mandates. the supreme court we got friday is going to hear oral arguments into two cases dealing with president biden's vaccine mandates. republican governments have pushed back like ron desantis of florida. this is what he had to say about blocking the vaccine mandates. >> tennessee has done something and people were saying this was not something that was going to end up happening. if they understood what was going on. i made the call to say we've got to do this now because people are actuall