amy: fiona mcentee, just to understand, how does ice enforce this? it means they have to cooperate -- universities and colleges across the country who are now absolutely outraged by this very late not to mention just what the content of the guidance is, they have to cooperate with ice, right? they have to let them know if international students are only taking online courses, for example, places like juan's university and our next guest at rutgers, they're going to offer a mix of online and in person. you would have to find out if this particular international student is taking only online courses. so will there be more cooperation? will i ice demanand information about t the students? how will they enforce this? >> there is a certification process built into this. so the universities are to report to ice about whether or not programs will be administered fully online or not. i think it is pretty jarring that in this statement, they did mention deportation. and for forereign students, who you heard the lady earlier, they come here and pay so much tui

from the usa but the leading immigration lawyer and former international student is fighting back fiona mcentee joins me now via skype from chicago thanks unified coming on more than a 1000000 international students given the u.s. student visas nastia what on earth is being threatened against them. thanks for having the apps and i were kind of messed up fight by by there was actually earlier on this week at. change course with regard. for foreign students that were made kind of made hands and essentially they said that if foreign students were going to be studying online and morris had an online only course that's for the false master and they would not be able to do that while maintaining their their student visa status here in the u.s. now i know harvard and mit have already said they're going to sue the trumpet ministration i mean this could really mean the mass deportation of say all u.k. students from the united states. well i mean that was certainly what i had put in there they're interactive that they issued a essentially last foreign students that we're going to be handing online only c