it is a perfect example of the familiar, and you look at it and you can easily say it is a fireplace hearthnd it is a pipe, and then you say wait a minute, it is not a pipe, and is actually a train. there is an idea about the motion of the train and stopping time on the clock. candlesticks that aren't doing anything. it is a picture that you can walk by and think it is so familiar. i am very familiar with the picture and yet it still confounds me. it haunts me. >> tell me what happened to him after 1938. >> in 1939, as we all know, the war breaks out. belgium is occupied. he does not make a lot of pictures. >> there is the moment when he is afraid to be put in a mental asylum. >> he did a lecture in 1938. what was it called? >> in wonderful, surrealist fashion, he sort of narrated the development of his life and art as a painter and talked about influences and inspirations, and childhood moments. >> in 1929, the wall street crash happened, and he went back to brussels because he couldn't make a living anymore. >> he was supposed to have a one-person show in march of 1930, two weeks before t

a perfect example of the familiar and this you look at it and you can easily say i oh it's a fireplace hearth and it's a pipe. then you can say it's not a pipe it's a train and the smoke from the pipe is the smoke of the train and there's an ybtd the motion of this train and then the stop of train on the clock. there's candlesticks that aren't doing anything. it's a picture that you can walk by and think of as so familiar and i'm very familiar with that and yet it still haunts me. it's sofa nil war that it's not familiar. >> tell me what happened to him after 1938. >> well, 1939 as we all know the war breaks out. belgium is occupied, magritte lives out the war in occupied belgium. he doesn't make a lot of pictures. >> he was kind of worried about being -- there was a moment that he's afraid to be put in the mental asylum because the nazis obviously didn't like his art and so there's that. >> rose: when he did this lecture what was it called? >> it was called "lifeline." so hi in wonderful surrealist fashion narrate it had development of his life and art as a surrealist painter and talked abou