obtain their procure their building, once they get a buildingbuild builder they are going to have a firm sed. we are almost in the same situation where we have a few projects in construction with the contractor and then we have a real firm timeline because it's attached to money and time and it's a contract that has liquidated damages to it. so you'll see some fluctuation son on -- on some of the projects and some contractors can go faster and some will take a little bit longer. >> president chow: i guess i'm still thinking of where we were following for all those years. so i think what you're telling me is that was after the contracts were signed, you then had a firm timeline. so we don't have that yet. >> yeah, i think the difference in the rebuild -- that was an integrated design. we actually had the contractor on board early and we did incremen increments, the utility relocation and were able to get into the ground five months of the bond passed in november with an actual contract for that work. so we had a pretty good idea as well as a contractor about how long it was going to take. thi