first to you brad, you you business guys are so op firstic, you -- optimistic, you impress us so muchn worst of times, in late 70s they seemed to be most depressing moment of my life economically speaking but that is when companies like apple a started, sometimes business people work through the worry? >> a business perso person to be successful has to be optimistic, because you have to inspire other people, we're wireed to be optimistic. but the time is good right now in terms of horizon, acknowledgeing all problem that identified early. david: talk about a couple of those problem, every other time coming out of a recession, in my lifetime we lowered tax rates and lowered regulation to stimulate the economy. this is so-called recovery, where tax rates have gone up anding layings hav -- regulations have increased, making it more difficult to do business. have you fewer businesses, no? >> i agree with that, this is putting a huge cap on when we're seeing in terps of rate of growth. but other side, country has a huge amount of unused capacity in labor and kw-789 equipment, it is swimmin