what's the turnaround on that from the request to the fisa court? >> we don't know what the new program turnaround time is. because the program's only been running for a week or so. and as far as i know, there wasn't any live testing, so we actually are probably giving it a workout right now as a result of san bernardino. but there's no information yet on how effective that program has been as a substitute for the old one. >> i mean, the only -- we have statements from intelligence officials who looked at these changes before they were passed and said that they didn't believe that it would impair intelligence capabilities and we also had provisions to address emergencies. so, every expectation is that the program will operate just as effectively and efficiently as prior ones. >> that's the second time that she said that, and i agree that that true, but these are people who work for president obama and president obama decided to accept this legislation, and you would be a very foolish high-ranking intelligence official to say the president has said h

if we don't do anything, title iii wiretaps and fisa's will become a thing of the past.n we saw the encrypted apps s, the paris attackers' iphone when eight attackers and numerous co-conspirators of foreign fighters in syria can do something like that, and it's completely under the radar screen, we know why it went undetected. it went undetected because they were communicating in dark space, in a space we can't shine a light on to see these medications, even if we have a order. we must solve this problem. i agree with you. it's not an easy one to solve. i have set them at top experts like keith alexander, one of the brightest minds on this issue, but i do believe that the first to get forcing them together in the same room to work out these differences and find a solution. i can't say that i have all the solutions to the problem, but i know the experts know how to get there. i think that is what this legislation will provide. >> david smith of "the garden." you mentioned new efforts about people trying to enter the u.s. in terms of the refugee program. do you have any fu

and then the security officials, federal courts, the pfizer court -- the fisa court to get a warrant. gary: the immune system of the united states, so we can have an early detection warning signal of what is going on. governor bush: that' s right. that started after 9/11. it has waned in the most recent past. this snowden episode that the american government despite spying on its citizens, there is no evidence of that. the way you protect the freedoms is to protect the homeland. but the bigger issue has to be what do we do in syria and iraq and a caliphate and the size of indiana. 30,000 battle tested terrorists that exist, organized with hundreds of millions of dollars in stolen money, ransom money, basically hijacking the economy. anthony: does that require ground troops? ops. i would say give me the options to destroy isis. i would relieve them of the duty to have more constraints than the norms of warfare and allow them to do their job. anthony: homeland security is front page right now. you made a decision before it was front page news again to want to be president. let' s go bac

host: this is the fisa court?uest: they authorized nationwide collection that an independent oversight was a misinterpretation of the law and a federal court said was a misinterpretation of the law and congress said it was a misinterpretation. it is not surprising that in the wake of the revelations that people have a level of distrust about our intelligence agencies and what has been authorized. guest: this court has existed since the 1970's. it consists of federal judges, the same ones who sit on other cases. oversight, the extent to which a judiciary, congress, are involved in overseeing what information is searched is unparalleled anywhere in the world. we have more oversight for intelligence community than any other country. those countries are gathering intelligence on us, americans, and american institutions. we have largely not entirely disarmed ourselves in that intelligence battle in a way that will turn out to be very dangerous. the fact is you cannot have intelligence programs if you tell your adversar

host: this is the fisa court? guest: they authorized nationwide collection that an independent oversight was a misinterpretation of the law and a federal court said was a misinterpretation of the law and congress said it was a misinterpretation. it is not surprising that in the wake of the revelations that people have a level of distrust about our intelligence agencies and what has been authorized. guest: this court has existed since the 1970's. it consists of federal judges, the same ones who sit on other cases. oversight, the extent to which a judiciary, congress, are involved in overseeing what information is searched is unparalleled anywhere in the world. we have more oversight for intelligence community than any other country. those countries are gathering intelligence on us, americans, and american institutions. we have largely not entirely disarmed ourselves in that intelligence battle in a way that will turn out to be very dangerous. the fact is you cannot have intelligence programs if you tell your advers

late in bush's second term they pass laws like the military commissions act of the fisa amendments sot by the time obama takes office at least with this lawyers mindset, the problem had largely been solved. and so they said we are not acting like bush. but we have the legal backing. but groups like the merrick and civil liberties union -- american civil liberties union still objected. we thought we knew that what there was to know about the bin laden raid. there was this whole other elements another dimension to it that was not told. remainsa bin laden raid -- raised all these issues. can you violate pakistani sovereignty? we have used force in countries where there is no functioning government. the tribal area of pakistan is kind of like that. yemen, somalia. these are not normal countries. one of the great controversies is that the bush administration that the wartion follows our enemies when they go to these places. it seems to me that the toistani has granted consent strikes within a certain area. a harder case might be somalia which doesn't even have a functioning government. cer

attorney and in dealing with the fisa court and prosecuting terrorists. smarts now looking like a play, something voters are getting, that this guy has dealt with domestic terrorism, personally on a 9/11, but also as a u.s. attorney. john: the contrast between the pieces of video we showed with chris christie and marco rubio, i think rubio looked untethered in that video, and pursuing what i would like to call a false binary, the notion that you cannot be in favor of gun control and concerned about terrorists both is obviously silly. we have a busy weekend ahead. so many events in our huge panorama. on saturday there is another republican cattle call, this one with at least four republican candidates in cedar rapids, iowa. donald trump will be in the hawkeye state with two rallies that day. hillary clinton has a big week"iew on abc's "this on sunday. first, a quick look back. donald trump had a good week. who else enters the aforementioned weekend on a high note? mark: ted cruz for sure, who i will have an interview with peter on the program. is also chri

he fisa to the nail and he is the leading opponent of that. on one level it is anti-communism he's opposing black liberation movements in africa as a way to supposedly limit communist in africa. there is a racial component certainly. it along with latin america are the big foreign policy. helms is not interested in europe. he is most interested in africa and latin america. a great question. that is important part of his foreign policy. >> did you consult senator helms or members of his staff, and if so how helpful were they, and if not, why? william: i did not interview senator helms. the time i start working on this book he suffered from dementia and was not giving interviews. when i initially requested an interview i was turned down. -- i did not interview senator helms. the time i start working on this book he suffered from dementia and was not giving interviews. when i initially requested an interview i was turned down. i thought it was something personal but it turned out it became effectively, he was not giving interviews at all i had ac

using a whole different set of techniques and rules of international terrorism than you are using the fisaourts, the things in the patriot act. you are using more things that are related to intelligence rather than criminal investigations. now, that doesn't make a lot of difference after the fact, but it does make a lot of difference beforehand. >> yep. now, chris, another part of this that strikes me, if indeed -- we don't know for sure, but if indeed the wife was a radicalizing influence on the husband, that changes the types of communication that they had that one would be able to track to understand how the radicalization happened. it seemed like the families of these people weren't even aware that there was strange developments happening. what needs to happen in order to be able to detect this sort of radicalization that might be nearly resulting in some sort of an attack. >> right. i mean, i think the communications between them probably at home, they're not communicating with each other by emails sf things that are documented, but they -- well, one or both of them would have been in

this is a whole different set of investigative techniques that invokes fisa and certain components of the patriot act so it's an intelligence investigation if it is in fact opened as an international terrorist investigation. very different from a domestic terrorist investigation and makes a big difference with the fbi. >> and bob, i mean, they have got to look at this from all angles, possible domestic connections and international, as well. >> there may have been a network here. there is certain possibility with the phones but who is this woman and where did she grow up and what mosque and who was she in contact with in pakistan and audio arabia. i'm very suspicious about the saudi angle and mecca and who did he see? did somebody give him the wife? she may have been planted. looks like it. this is not a normal way to find a spouse going to saudi arabia. they will be looking at that and depends how corporative the saudis are. they may know something. depends if they tell us or not. >> and pakistan, as well. >> i'm suspicious of them, too. >> the size of this couple's arsenal, i mean,

government could look at it and only if they got a court order from a fisa court to look at those phone records. and they retain them for a significant period of time. under this new law, we are trusting the phone companies to hold thosos records anan all of these phhe companies have different p piod of times whenn they hold it. some will hold it for 18 months, some six months. in is a valuable tool. if you have intified someone as a potential terrorist or someone who carries out a terrorist activity, the ability to look at who they've been calling and talking to is part of a larger puzzle that you can put together to see what network they've been working with, who they've been communicating with. we have lost that capacici in many ses. >> is this a commander-in-chieie test f f senator cruz? >> i believe it is for all the candidates. in the case of senator cruz my intelligence vote. he talks tough on these issues, for example he's going to carpet bomb isis. but the only budget he's ever voted for in his time in the senate is a budget that cut defense spending by more than barack obama p

if you can get a warrant, a fisa warrant, go into the e-mail and find out what they were chatting about in 2012. i know you're working your sources. but work your sources and, evan, come back to us when you're able to find out a little bit more. shocking. thank you, amazing work. alongside the washington bureau in these terror investigations. >>> and then the u.s. army sergeant bowe bergdahl opening up about his time in captivity, how he was kept in the dark for five years and why he wanted to emulate the movie character jason bourne. but is this such a good idea to be talking and talking and talking before you even face a jury? we'll discuss. marie callender knows that a dutch apple pie can make any occasion feel more special. so she makes her pie crust from scratch. and sprinkles on brown sugar streusel. so that you can spend more time making special moments... ...with your family. marie callender's it's time to savor. brought personal computers to the home? totally. ...and then intel made them more efficient so that you could fit all this into a laptop... tight. real tight. ...and th

using the fisa court.ng the tools that are necessary to be able to intervene in both the fort dick six case and before attacks happened we were able to prosecute, convict and send to jail all of those terrorists and we would use those very same tools. we would make sure that we have a bolstered and strong patriot act. make sure that we are giving the resources that the fbi, other law enforcement, cia and nsa need to be able to intervene. the only way to deal with this problem at all, home, chris is, to get as much intelligence as possible, connect the dots and try to intervene beforehand. i want to be clear. it doesn't mean that you will be able to stop every attack. i want to take issue with one thing you said in your question. i don't think the attacks in san bernadino mean that the threat from within is worse than the threat from outside. intelligence and law enforcement one way to protect the homeland. >> there is a new poll that is howted, completed just before the san bernadino attacks. i want to put

do more so we are actually eager to do more because that will accelerate isil but it -- defeat of fisa but it hinges the local forces that we can enable in this way and that is what we are looking for. every fine -- every time a fundamental enable them so i would hope and expect in this gets back to the whole question of numbers, the point isn't numbers. the point is capabilities in the ability to motivate local forces. the more refined than the more we will do. >> one other question. you referenced earlier that isis is metastasizing. i thought that was a very appropriate word and also frightening word. we know based on "the new york times" article certainly that they have become somewhat entrenched in libya. at the same without wanting to signal to isis that we are recognizing that in and taking steps to address that, that you have a plan that you are putting in place to deal with that? >> we killed their leader in libya a few weeks ago so it shouldn't come as any surprise that we are determined to get them wherever they arise. metastasis is a good word because these radical cells pop

we were told that, look, you don't have to worry, there's a fisa court, a confirmed judicial nominee that's a federal judge, they'll protect the constitution. there was no particularity at all. just give us everything on everybody you got, and the judge just signed, oh, okay, you want everything, here's everything. i couldn't believe it. and so i'm not as comfortable with providing the exception that i'm sure was demanded by governmental entities. and i'm wondering if an excuse of destruction of tampering with evidence or intimidation of potential witnesses is enough to get an order saying we can avoid informing whoever sent the e-mail or whoever showed up with possession of the e-mail, we don't have to inform them. if we're concerned they might delete the e-mails, really? well, that would always be a concern so you could always, always, always get some judge somewhere that would sign off on that order. i know that now after seeing the disclosure by snowden. so, i'm not comfortable that this is really going to be that helpful because of that massive gaping hole. on page 11 it says th

really helps because it gives you access to a kind of intelligence that would come through previous fisa the use of intelligence material that might not otherwise be available. it makes you -- gives you access to cooperation with certain foreign sources. so it's very important that you have a terrorism investigation when you have an act which is arguably, and appears to be, manifestly terrorist in nature. so, if you wait until the investigation is over to deploy these additional tools, that's self-defeating. so when you have -- we had the trade craft here of terrorism. the stockpiling, destruction of the digital trail, the audit trail, and frankly, the announcement of all these things may actually keep cooperators to destroy other thing that might provide the trail to them. so the strategy, the strategic effort that is made in these investigations and how much is said and not said can really make a difference in terms of whether or not you can stop the next one. >> you know, i wanted to get your thoughts on -- she is the l.a. director of the council on american islamic relations and he s

and it has to be that level, minimum of probable cause to get a title iii or nsa wiretap through fisaight, makes people realize perhaps not doing that does leave open the inevitablity of more attacks like. this thank you both very much. >>> "outfront," new information that sayd farouk planned another terror attack with the man who got him the rifles that he and his wife used to slaughter 14 people in san bernardino. who is this man? we are learning a lot of new things about him at this hour and we will share that with you next. >>> and a supreme court justice questioning whether black college students might be better off going to less-elite schools. that is exactly what he said. his remarks, ahead. this is the best block of all. it's like candy cane lane. i know. oohhh. oh, holiday ferris wheel. i kind of love it. look at those reindeer. jeffrey, you're awfully quiet back there. i was just thinking... maybe it's time we finish this test drive and head back to the dealership? that is so jeffrey... soooo jeffrey... so jeffrey... oh. elves.. it's practically yours. but we still need your

if we don't do anything, title iii chiropractor t.a.r.p.es and fisas -- wiretaps and fisas will becomeg of the past. when we saw the encrypted apps on the terrorists' iphones, when numerous co-conspirators of foreign fighters from syria can do something like that and it's completely under the radar screen, we know why it went undetected. it went undetected because they were commune candidating in the dark -- communicating in the dark space, in a place we can't shine a light on to see these communications even if we have a court order. we must solve this problem. and i agree with you, it's not an easy one to solve. i've sat down with top experts like keith al zahner, one with of brightest minds on this issue. but i do believe that the first step is getting them, forcing them to get together in the same room to work out ott these differences -- out these differents and find a solution. i can't say that i have all the solutions to the problem. but i know that the experts know how to get there, and i think that's what this legislation will provide. >> next up, the gentleman -- [inaudible]

in that respect theirs and overshooting where there's no incorporation of the fisa whether it's the bush letter or the arab league declarations that have allowed for swaps, there is an understanding that the 1949 cease-fire lines will not be the borders, but there is no treatment in policy of western countries that we've already moved to a different view of the equivalent character rather than the precise border. into online policy with preference in this case would require western countries to actually do the hard work, delineating some kind of border of saying okay, we accept, because there's the notion of a settlement that is there've been established so there's nothing that says okay, we accept that these are the queue, 3% of the west bank that will be part of israel in any future agreement. we will no longer condemn buildings in this land, but everything else we will take a harsher measure. this would be a more proper alignment of policy with preference, but at the moment, and we're seeing it and labeling issue, the tendency is to maintain the overshooting policy which does not reco

it may require search warrants, its may require some special work through the fisa courts but that information is available and we should be putting together a network of these people as best we can off the current watch list. i think when you look at this, what it says is that there were indicators that were out there that for one reason or another just weren't quite followed up on and it's no different than what we've found in france with the paris attacks. there's lots of information that comes into law enforcement. it's overwhelming in quantity, very difficult to sift through it and good budgets it's very hard. so you have to learn how to sharpen your focus on the information coming in. >> general clark, stay with me, i have more questions for you including about this passport machine that isis in syria has managed to get its hand on. we'll be back with that in just a moment. the markets change, at t. rowe price, our disciplined investment approach remains. we ask questions here. look for risks there. and search for opportunity everywhere. global markets may be uncertain. but you can feel

we were told that, look, you don't have to worry, there's a fisa court date, confirmed judicial nominee that's a federal judge. they'll protect the constitution. there was no particularity at all, just give us everything on everybody you got and the judge just signed. oh, okay. you want everything? here's everything. i couldn't believe it. so i'm not just as comfortable with providing the exception that i'm sure was demanded by governmental entities. and i'm wondering if an excuse of destruction or tampering with evidence or intimidation of a potential witness is enough to get an order saying we can avoid informing whoever sent the e-mail or whoever should have possession of the e-mail. we don't have to inform them if we're concerned they might delete the e-mails. really? well that would always be a concern. so you could always, always, always get some judge somewhere that would sign off on that order. i know that now after seeing the disclosure about snowden. so i'm not comfortable that this is really going to be that helpful because of that massive gaping hole. on page 11, it says tha

fisa with no conflicts and we do not have to sit there with the new name when it comes in and think,? it gives you a lot of freedom. i think you will see our assets wantjt grow because people -- ptj grow because people like to be in their own position. stephanie: big-time investors do not want to be hampered by style issues. they do not want to have their investors say, well, david, you and onlyould be macro investing in puerto rico. investors want the flexibility to do whatever they want. christine: the other thing with blue crest, they have, to conflicts where they have their own staff funds, advisers who investors cannot think was a good thing and there seem to be conflict, so there is that. stephanie: the issue was that they were potentially cherry picking. christine: and they were not open with their investors. erik: that was the accusation. stephanie: and now they are saying, we will not just cherry pick but invest in only who we think is the best with their money. david: what do you think will happen with the debt market? isk: today, michael platt turning his firm into a famil

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questions about christie's story about abortion, about whether he was actually arguing before the fisaalking about his national security record. even one "philadelphia inquirer" story how he busted new jersey y jerseyi jerseyians up to a rally in new hampshire. if true it's a big no-nine the granite state. taken together this all shows you there's suddenly a lot of focus on christie that says other republicans are seeing his numbers come up and their internal polling possibly ahead of where the public polling is. his favorability number in new hampshire one to watch, he's basically turned it upside down from where it was which as you know is not an easy feat. the question going forward whether this bubble christie is experiencing is something that carries him all the way through these five and a half weeks we have to frierm or whether this fire direct at him will push him down. >> steve kornacki, you want to weigh in on that? >> it's interesting. you talk about the christie-trump dynamic, watching trump go after him last night. cystive is unique among some of these candidates. he wants

i'm the only person on stage that used the patriot act, the fisa court, who have fought terrorism ands and knows how to bring to terrorism to heel. that's why. i didn't get briefed in a basement on capitol hill and have to get a vote on subcommittee which i could vote differently in the full committee and then vote differently on the floor. i had to decide do you go after this group or don't you. what evidence do you gather? when do you intervene to stop before somebody gets killed. those are decisions you have to make. i won't need to practice that. >> so i would guess, governor, sounds like your views are similar to mine on the war on terror, pretty tough, pretty expansive, views that ted cruz may not support. i don't wring my hands over the three terrorists that were water boarded because maybe i know more details about it than many others. i know the information we got from it. but when i hear you -- i set that up just to say it doesn't make me wring my hand because we get a lot of actionable intelligence out of it. but when i hear you say that you don't care whether water boardin

getting back to the fisa court, first of all, that stands for foreign intelligence surveillance activity or whatever, well, first of all, let's look at what's coming out, not looking in. in america, i'm amazed y'all haven't caught on to that. that's strictly against our constitution. you said gain, like earlier, they've been collected for nine years, right? well, there you go. they already lied nor 2350eu7b years about it. you don't think they're listening to your conversations. host: greg, did you like rand paul's answer on that? caller: rand paul's got the best liberal -- libertarian, that's right, look on that type of subject. but the only winner closest to a winner was trump, because nobody is looking at the real issues. it doesn't take about 10 minutes to click on the internet and find out that these are nothing but false flag events. they were running a drill in san bernardino. everybody knows it. so why are we even talking about it like it's a real terrorist act whenever we fund isis and then we opened the boreders to let them come in, and then if they do get radicalized, we helpe