i want to move to this fisa investigation.avid, clearly during the course of a campaign you have got one president, one white house, and what they are doing, and clearly the president knows about this because there would be no warrant to a fisa court or application, i should say, seeking a warrants, without the attorney general behind and clearly the president knowing that the trump campaign was being investigated. now, does that smack of nixon watergate type mccarthyism? what is going on here? what is the biggest concern for the american people? >> the big jest concern is that it could be true. it actually happened. for those who think that it's true, all they have to do is point to the fact that the president obama through media reports confirming it actually did approve the wiretapping of german chancellor angela merkel. how is it beyond a reasonable doubt that he didn't do it this time. judge jeanine: here, mary anne, is the issue. if you have got one president surveilling another president -- another candidate for preside

fisa warrants for a living. you needd to hear her. "justice" rolls on in just a moment. >> welcome back to justice. that's "dig deep" are in the allegations made by president trump. that president obama had trump tower wiretap during the presidential campaign. with me is the former department of justice counterterrorism and counterintelligence attorney. good evening carrie, your first time a justice, thank you for being with us. you are one of the few people that has actually done these fisa warrants and has gotten to a fisa judge on behalf of the department of justice. this is your cup of tea. let's get down to some of the basics. number one, this, this is an area law that's very specific. it's almost clandestine and the sense that most people do not even know where the fisa court is located. they don't know who these judges are. they're appointed by the chief justice in there for seven years. i think actually that chuck schumer misspoke when he said they were elected judges. i don't know what that was about. w

there are suggestions it may be linked to fisa court. what do you know?> well, the president has made a pattern of watching fox news, reading breitbart, even websites like infowars then reacting to the news hours or minutes, even minutes later. so there's some speculation, we don't know for sure, of course, that that's where this is coming from. given pete williams' reporting that the administration officials are saying they have no idea where this is coming from. they're not -- you know, it's not coming from anything official. so that's as good of a guess as any. but it's true that this has sort of opened up a can of worms for the administration, because either way whether or not there is really a fisa warrant here, whether or not it's just coming from a website that the president is reading, neither version of this is particularly good for him. >> nall, let's take a listen to what senator lindsey graham said at a town hall this morning about these allegations. >> if the former president of the united states was able to obtain a warrant lawfully to monit

what is the fisa court in english? is a court set up to issue warrants in order to do wiretapping and other surveillance when there is a threat of a terrorist activity in the u.s. or terrorist activity that threatens u.s. interests or a foreign power threatening u.s. interests. now, in order to get that warrant, you have to show probable cause. which is one of the things that is sort of strange about this whole situation. we don't know whether there were fisa warrants issued or not, press reports that suggest there were. you just, you know, played some tape saying it happened, but clapper said earlier today he was the former director of national intelligence he doesn't think there were fisa warrants issued. if there were fisa warrants -- >> pause, pause, pause. let me pause you. for folks to understand, clapper told our own chuck todd there weren't to his knowledge taps on trump tower. and you're describing this process. but the fisa court, potentially, have authorized some wiretaps somewhere for some trump associate r

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you can talk about how fisa warrants work? frankly, i think a lot of people -- it's not new, but all the attention is on this this morning. so can just explain whether you think this is even plausible? >> well, fisa warrants are meant to be protection of americans' civil liberties. our government has very extensive and very impressive information collection capabilities. and the idea behind this is to make sure that they're not used to collect information on ordinary innocent americans. the idea that our government is somehow eavesdropping on conversations or reading people's e-mails without proper presented indication, proper cause is one that can be very disturbing. so the fisa program was put in place to prevent that sort of thing from happening without due cause. so the allegation that the government was actually without justification listening in, eavesdropping on trump campaign personnel is extremely serious allegation. and something that deserves a serious investigation. >> do you believe it? >> i don't have a basis for

you are one of the few people that has actually done these fisa warrants and has gotten to a fisa judge on behalf of the department of justice. this is your cup of tea. let's get down to some of the basics. number one, this, this is an area law that's very specific. it's almost clandestine and the sense that most people do not even know where the fisa court is located. they don't know who these judges are. they're appointed by the chief justice in there for seven years. i think actually that chuck schumer misspoke when he said they were elected judges. i don't know what that was about. what i want to ask you is this, what is it take to get a judge in a fisa court to sign a wiretap warrant? >> thank you for having me on. it's next extensive process to obtain the fisa court approval. these are federal judges appointed by the chief justice. there is next in subprocess within the justice department. many levels of legal review, information that legal review, information that needs to be included in the applications presented on the court and many legal authorities that need to be met in ord

theapplication for fisa and report comes back that those were denied. they were not based on a reasonable suspicion that there was co-lution with russians. claspy ey re-- mc eported that -- mcclathcey had another story. there were stories that there was application for fisa warrant, those were turned down, then there's a report that f.b.i. and five other agencies are investigating russian influence on the u.s. presidential election. this is starting to add up. starting to see. here's the sign there's something going on. there's a leakage of classified information. leakage of classified information. then the report of the investigation of the f.b.i. and five other agencies, now here's the next story. "new york times" reports, "the new york times" reports that the f.b.i. has investigate -- is investigating russian government communications with trump campaign but there's no evidence of those communications resulting in any kind of collusion at least. that's "the new york times" report. so these stories have been dropped. in hedge street, "the guardian," "

could you or the commander in chief say i'm privy to all intel and want to see the fisa orders. >> fisas are almost sacrosanct and the administration can be briefed and get information to what the paper trail would be. i think it's important for us to find that out. to me the fact that an order may have been issued is not necessarily critical of the justice department. on the other hand if it shows there's not sufficient evidence or they tried to shoehorn it warrants a full investigation but i want to emphasize there's no evidence assuming there were wiretaps still nothing has shown up anyone in the trump campaign or in the russian apparatus. >> shannon: how concerned are you about the leaks that continue to come out since day one on various fronts? >> we're talking internal white house gossip that's part of the game but if you're talking about fisa orders and transcripts of telephone conversations and talking about fbi investigations and someone ordered access that's almost like an alternative government working against the president. i know for instance the fbi and justice department

this statute creates the fisa court.nd that statute says notwithstanding anything in this statute, the president may order the surveillance of any person in the united states of america upon the filing of a certification by the attorney general that it re-late to national security. a filing that nobody can read, not even the judges with home it is filed. so i don't know if this happened. but the notion that president trump would have had tov have asked the f.b.i. to get a search warrant is out of the question. the f.b.i. has nothing to do with this. the idea he would go to taffiesa court to do this is out of the question. why would he go to a fisa court to get a warrant to do something he has the authority to do. every phone call and every mobile device and land line, every keypad touch and every mobile device and desktop, every piece of digital information that flows into or through the united states in fiberoptics captured in real-time by the nsa. the nsa is in the pentagon. it works for the pentagon it's a military en

the fisa applications, which clapper denies, the fisa applications should be released. that is number one. the warrant that was supposedly secured in october should be released. the other thing that needs to be done is these daily presidential briefings that the president receives, the intelligence and law enforcement agencies coordinate on and prepare, they need to read them. and now we will get to the bottom of this. i find it very interesting, let trump release the fisa stuff. he would be accused of intimidating the justice department. let congress finally step up and do its job. they have oversight committees. we pay these people do their job. get into those fisa applications. look at the warrant that was released. look at these daily briefings let us see what is in them. >> sean: we miss having one. we will keep you, more with the great mark levin when we come back. jay sekulow, we will get into that. he will react. also tonight, republicans now trying to make good on their promise to repeal and replace obamacare. early this evening, lawmakers revealed their plan t

. >> at this point you can't confirm or deny whether that exists. >> i can deny it. >> there is no fisa court order. >> not to my knowledge. >> of anything at trump tower. >> no. >> that's an important revelation at this point. >> let me ask you this, does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the russia campaign or intel jens officials. >> we did not include evidence in our report and that's nsa, fbi and cia with my office, the director of national intelligence that had anything -- that had any reflection of collusion between

fisa or no fisa. >> i'll ask you to hold tight. we need to take a short break. we'll come back and talk about the controversy, a growing list of trump campaign staff now known to have talked to russian officials. we'll talk more about all of that in light of now this accusations coming from the sitting president about his predecessor and wire tapping. as the network it's on. and verizon has been ranked number one for the 7th time in a row by rootmetrics. (man) hey, uh, what's rootmetrics? it's the nation's largest independent study and it ranked verizon #1 in call, text, data, speed and reliability. (woman) do they get a trophy? not that i know of. but you get unlimited done right. (man 2) why don't they get a trophy? (man 3) they should get something. (woman 2) how about a plaque? i have to drop this. my arm's getting really tired. unlimited on verizon. 4 lines, just $45 per line. i'm not a customer, but i'm calling about that credit scorecard. give it. sure! it's free for everyone. oh! well that's nice! and checking your score won't hurt your credit. oh! i'm s

by the fisa court.difficult, a very difficult wire tap to get by the fisa courts, all the more reason for us to have a independent special prosecutor to investigate this. to find out about the relationships and to find out most of all why the trump team continues to lie about their relationships and lie about their meetings. >> it would not be extreme first off for the fisa court to give a wire tap that would cover russian individuals, including the ambassador, including anyone basically working with the russian government. if you look back in history, we've done a heck of a job on surveillance of the russian ambassador, every russian ambassador and almost everybody that's in this country that's representing russia. and you had the president that kicked out many of the people connected with the russian government recently right before he left office and they were under surveillance as well so this idea that somehow this would not have happened or that it is unprecedented for the fisa court to make a dec

if there was a fisa warrant or not, apparently there wasn't. it seems to me trump was becoming paranoid. it took nixon several years before he became paranoid. he was concerned about obama conspiring with the protesters and he was the one that encouraged the protesters. so i guess this weekend he chose to focus on president obama, but according to clapper that there was not a wiretap. there was no fisa warrant. >> and in that same discussion with chuck todd we heard from clapper who said he did not see any collusion between donald trump and any russian officials there. so tell me how does that play into it in your beliefs? >> well, one of my concern, and i do believe that this will probably come out in time, we know that trump had a very bad track record as a businessman. we know that there were very few, if any, banks toward the end that would lend him money. until we get his tax returns, until we get to the bottom of his finances as well as his family members who continue to be involved and it's very clear that he has not divested, he's not s

they went into the server but they did not use the fisa. in october. >> sean: spewing two instances f spying. >> two instances, this is completely new evidence. we all thought, everybody had reported that the server is inside trump tower, it was not located inside trump tower. >> sean: with the second one. seven trump tower? >> that's what we don't know it now that opens up a whole slew of questions. what we do know is this, the people who were investigating the server, they said the fbi did not look into emails, they did not listen to his phone calls and at that they no evidence, no evidence at all of any type of crime associated with trump business. >> sean: the news media in this country has repeated this narrative that the trump campaign were colluding with the russians to undermine the electoral process. you're saying that your reporting -- john solomon has worked for ap for 20 years? you both work together at the washington times, credible news organizations. you're saying they found no evidence at all whatsoever of any collusion betw

. >> at this point you can't confirm or deny whether that exists. >> i can deny it. >> there is no fisa court order. >> not to my knowledge. >> of anything at trump tower.

. >> if this went through the fisa court and nobody has proof because it's the fisa court, you wouldn't not release this info. president trump should not release the info, even if he has access. >> neil: that would boomerang on him. >> it set as precedent that the information in a fisa court that really shouldn't be secret. third party groups -- >> neil: would that normally get out there? >> fisa information would not get out there. it's bizarre that they went to fisa for trump once and the second time they limited it. if it's proven that it happened, if the there's no there there, you've had every congressional committee say there's nothing there. if this investigation happened and donald trump was involved and it was the obama administration that did it, it's a big news story. you can argumentfully say it however you want. if it's obama officials doing it, it rests with the president of the united states. >> neil: they have said that did not happen. again, we've heard denials before. it's too soon to tell. we don't know. we do not know. thank you. jordan -- >> thank you. >> neil: reme

everything that is fisa has to be labeled such to warn people this is fisa. we treat this in a special way. so we can get you the number. i want to assure the culture of the fbi and nsa is obsessive, and i mean that in a good way. representative gowdy: i agree culture is important, but if there are 100 people who have the ability to unmask and the knowledge of a previously masked ame, that is 100 different potential sources of investigation, and the smaller the number is, the easier your investigation is. so the number is relevant. i can see the culture is relevant. sa, fbi -- what other u.s. government agencies have the authority to unmask a u.s. citizen's name? director comey: i think all agencies that collect information pursuant to fisa have standard mimization procedures, which are approved by the fisa court to govern how they will treat u.s. information. the nsa does. the cia does. the fbi does. i do not know for sure beyond that. representative gowdy: how about main justice? director comey: main justice has standard minimization procedures. representat

the "f" in fisa stands for "foreign." they're looking for someoning as a agent of a foreign power and when you're trying to intercept that communication that's the only way to do it that i'm aware of and there's a high bar for that, a lot of work that has to go into something like that. >> so, steve, would it be a crime or offense by the president of the united states to claim there was wiretapping conducting with certainty by his predecessor and it can not be substantiated by other means? is it a crime if it's false based on what the president said. >> not being a law enforcement officer, i'll defer to tom and others to talk about the criminality. from the intelligence perspective it's very strange, the former dni says he was not aware of it. it's possible but we just don't know and we don't know so much that this yet again underlines the need for an independent investigation into all of this. >> tom, how would yous tha answ that? >> well, if someone was conducting the wiretaps and it was off the books or not authorized

court. >> the fisa court. >> yes. that's a panel of judge with top secret clearance who hear the submission from the fbi and the department of justice to conduct these wiretap and they would rule on that. i can tell you the information on these are close hold. if you have a fbi field division has four hundred agent there may be unaware of this because of the sensitivity. this is not something that's going to be known through out the department of justice or white house or other places. >>s -- it's going to be restricted of the need to know about this wiretap. to provide the evidence to support the -- technician to point it out. >> tom, thank you. >>> source describing to cnn president enraged. one aide saying, the staff never seen president trump this mad. we'll talk about it up next. you're live in the cnn newsroom. we have switched back over and we feel like we're back home now. the process through usaa is so effortless, that you feel like you're a part of the family. i love that i can pass the membership to my chil

that there was no fisa wiretap. now, whether somebody wiretap d wiretapped. >> not the nsa, not cia. only the fbi, and it would take a handful of attorneys from the fbi -- agents from the fbi, attorneys from the department of justice national security division. thelkd go in front of a court, and that's how the sthort would be granted from that court to go ahead and conduct a fisa. the director of the fbi knows absolutely whether it did or did not happen. >> that request is ongoing because it's such a serious charge levelled by president trump. >> what's interesting is you have an attorney general that's recused himself from anything related to this part of the investigation involving russian involvement with president trump or his people. then you don't have a deputy attorney general sitting yet, so i don't know who he will ask at this point. >> they've been -- >> they have an acting, but, again, you know, that's not at the highest level to make that kind of a thing of a statement against the president of the united

if there is a distention betweew a fisa and a wiretapping. they did tap, they were looking. >> sean: they were investigating the president of the weeks leading up to the election and there were two warrants, one fisa, one a nonfisa. did they find anything at all, anything at all? >> according to the sources that we spoke with, they did not find any evidence that would lead to any kind of criminal prosecution of anyone on the trump team. >> sean: your told people that he is exonerated, the whole russian narrative that the media has been running with as a quick what you might they've known it for some time and they never told us? >> to some extent yes. >> sean: that's pretty scary. >> as it relates to who knew what, when, and where, the president made a clever statement, i didn't order the fisa investigation, did he know? did ben rhodes a no? did loretto lynch sign off on it? dan pfeiffer in the middle of a campaign, you have a sitting president with s the power over the intelligence community looking into an opposition candidate in the weeks l

>> all fisa applications reviewed by the court, collection by us pursuant to our fisa authority, is classified. >> the dissemination of which is a felony punishable by up to ten years in prison? >> dissemination, unauthorized dissemination. >> unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material punishable biby a felony and up to ten years in prison. >> yes, as it should be. >> all right. in january of this year "the washington post" reported according to senior u.s. government official, a named u.s. citizen, and i will not use the name, a named u.s. citizen, phoned the russian ambassador several times on december the 29th. in february of this year, "the washington post" reported nine, nine current and former officials who were in senior positions at multiple agencies at the time of the call spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters and that officials began poring over intelligence reports, intercepted communications and diplomatic cables. in february of this year, "the new york times" reported a u.s. citizen whose name i will not use discu

>> i can deny it. >> there is no fisa court order?ot to my knowledge. >> of anything in trump tower? >> no. >> bill: major angst in washington, president trump tweeting that he believes the obama administration tapped his operation. we will talk to newt gingrich about that. also, there is a new travel ban order. brit hume has some thoughts. violence between pro and anti-trump demonstrators getting worse, even as a college professor has attacked for bringing a speaker

the first fisa warrant. trish: yes. >> after it was turned down, this was according to "the new york times" on february 14th, fbi asked nsa to viewpoint nice communications of ukrainian officialings. wow, the fisa warrant was turned down because it was unjustified, and then the fbi said to, this sa, give us what you've got on manafort. there's a lot of smoke here. trish: we're going to keep following it. thank you so much, buck and fred, good to have you guys here. let's get to another one here, democrats pouncing on the allegations of the wiretappiing what if president is right? what if fred and buck are right and he was wiretapped by the obama administration? what does that mean? it's not good. on any level. we've got it next. hey gary, what are you doing? oh hey john, i'm connecting our brains so we can share our amazing trading knowledge. that's a great idea, but why don't you just go to thinkorswim's chat rooms where you can share strategies, ideas, even actual trades with market professionals and thous

so he would have gone through the fisa system.t's an established procedure, nothing wrong with it, and it would only be to trump's detriment if that indeed has happened. >> and that's the point. so from 1978 on, to get a wire tap against a u.s. citizen in particular, you have to go to court, make a finding and there has to be some probable cause. in this case it would be probable cause of something pretty serious, like espionage, in order to get that tap on an american citizen. >> or it happened that they had a bank or somebody else that they were looking at and trump got swept up in it. the other reason the analogy breaks down is nixon didn't succeed in wire tapping anybody. at the watergate in particular, the reference that trump made, there was no knowledge in the white house indeed that was being done, so it breaks down. >> do you see an analogy between the way that donald trump seems to think about what a president can do feels very nixonian that he has a much more inflated view of a president's powers for him to believe that

so if indeed we give this some validity, if indeed the fbi went to the fisa court and convinced the fisaourt that trump or someone else in trump tower was the agent of a foreign government, which is the standard you need to meet in order for us to conduct surveillance on someone on american soil, well, that's a big story, right? that means that trump or someone in his organization was acting as an agent of a foreign government or if it was a non-fisa warrant, then he had to convince a court that there's probable cause of an underlying crime. either one of those sets of facts would be very troubling, right? >> right. and we should point out comey has said it didn't happen and clapper, who would have been involved in the intelligence side. >> and then the third possibility which is even more earth shattering is that barack obama somehow had the ability to conduct surveillance on someone in trump tower that was outside of all of the legal means. and i don't think anyone said that. >> carl bernstein, with the comparisons to watergate, but trump himself is making that comparison. is it apt? a

there is no such fisa warrant. it will be impossible to get one. indeed, i faithfully reported that a couple of times that director comey went to the court and ask for a warrant that named mr. trump. he was turned down flat. i think you heard dni clapper denying that there was a politically motivated targeted fisa warrant. i haven't reported that to my knowledge, nor has anyone else. >> shannon: my remembrance was that he was asked if there was such an order. is it possible that they dni wouldn't know about it? >> i don't know because they don't -- i try not to. >> shannon: good for journalist. we should stick to what we know. >> such an order, does that mean no fisa warrant of any kind? that will be really hard for a dni to deny or confirm. i think that would be illegal even. i think what he was saying, there was no order of a politically targeted fisa court warrant that was aiming directly at trump tower. and the political campaign. >> shannon: you are confident in your sources is and what you reported. again, dealing with banks that were communi

i was in the third fisa court in 1978. formed after the takeover, the iranians were moving to take over the embassy. the idea that you can get thousands of these things done is just total and complete bull. >> eric: last year, there were 1589 requests. >> bob: don't do it to yourself. eric, eric. let me explain something. in order to get a i.c.e. for judge to agree to a wiretap of a u.s. citizen requires strong proof of a felony or treason. that means -- let me finish. get your pom-poms. >> eric: the fisa court -- if the nsa or fbi or both said we have probable cause. >> bob: i have been in a fisa court and i know what goes on and you don't so it's wrong. there's a list of who got a fisa charge and who didn't. a fisa judge looked into it and was asked to look into it and there will be no trump name on it. this guys almost to the point, and i have a strong suggestion as an american. i think he ought to not have control of the nuclear codes. ought to have pence and the secretary of defense because this guy is starting to los

you never hear what happens in the fisa court. a fisa court concerns foreign intelligence. there has to be evidence that a foreign government or agent for a foreign government has been conducting espionage in the united states or against the united states. is there probable cause for a fisa judge to issue a warrant? is there probable cause someone in the campaign and later in his transition and later in his administration was conspiring to do what? were they working to undermine the democrats and the election of hillary clinton. were they telling vladimir putin, don't worry about obama's sanctions, they don't mean anything to us. once president trump takes office, you won't have sanctions. what is going on? what is donald trump talking about? it's incumbent upon the 45th president to tell us what's going on. >> if this is true, it's explosive. if the administration was involved. if they did put this forward, what was the justification for it. it seems there was something president trump was made aware of. it was an excited utterance in the form of a tweet. it must be based

that was a general fisa that covered a whole hacking investigation.ther or not there were people connected to that, we don't really know. we know that the warrant to look into trump server found nothing criminal in that investigation. >> sean: wasn't one fisa and want to not? >> exactly, the server was not a fisa, it was a regular warrant, the fbi had a traditional investigation when they went into that server. it was very short-lived. they didn't spend a lot of time in the server, they went in there, didn't find anything. in fact, they said they'd didn't investigate any emails and they didn't listen to any phone call calls. >> sean: the president put on the statement, the question is did he know about it. three base, couple of weeks before presidential election, you have a sitting president looking at the opposition parties server, now i know for my own at dealings with people in the campaign at the time, they had a trump email addresses, trump organization email addresses. >> many times that's how i communicate with him. >> sean: exactly. what can y

president, declassify them, declassify the fisa order. although, you know, look, there's another element of this here. a lot of people say that donald trump has a habit of doing this kind of thing on twitter to create a distraction, right? there's been a series of bad stories about jeff sessions. if that was his intent here, though it may have backfired, because it puts more focus on the ultimate question here, which is did members of the trump campaign collude with russia while russia was mounting a covert operation to interfere in the election to hurt hillary clinton and help donald trump? that's what the fbi is investigating. that's what congressional intelligence committees are investigating. and that is the ultimate question here that we all need to know the answer to, thomas. >> all right, ken. great to see you this morning. thank you. we'll let you get back to work, ken delaney. >>> it's an anniversary of a tragic event in the struggle for the right to vote. we take you to selma, alabama, next. to folks everywhere whose diabetic...

trump for did they get a fisa order. said there was no court order to monitor any phones at trump tower. here's what lindsey graham said at a town hall over the weekend. >> if the former president of the united states was able to obtain a warrant lawfully to monitor trump's campaign for violating the law, that would be the biggest scandal since watergate. i'm very worried that our president is suggesting that the former president has done something illegally. i would be very worried if in fact the obama administration was able to obtain a warrant lawfully about trump campaign activity with foreign governments. >> the senator said it is his job as a senator to get to the bottom of this, and he promised he would. with us, michael mukasey. over the weekend, i thought it was on msnbc, you said you thought there was probably surveillance at the behest of the attorney through the fisa court but that president obama himself would not have ordered it. that's not the way it works. >> that's not the way it works. >> so what do you

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it would not have gone through a fisa court.unds like this is more patriot act type of responsibility of the nsa, especially given that the republican front-runner was plead for troush hack into the democratic front-runner's e-mail accounts and in september the intelligence community came together to reveal they felt russia was collectively trying to interfere in our election. in hindsight, regardless of whatever party, do you think that the president should be tweeting about a substance of something of this magnitude without good details to back it up for the american people? >> that gets to more of the heart of the matter. i'm afraid a lot of this discussion now about who tweets what and who contacted who and who sat down with what ambassador is distracting from a lot of real serious issues we face in rebuilding our foreign policy showing russia we can protect united states' strategic interests versus them. >> when we think about the consequences of jeff sessions now caught in the crosshairs of having to amend and submit for t

is fisa.g that is fisa we treat fisa in a special way. representative gowdy: i agree culture is important, but if there are 100 people who have the bill ability to unmask and is 100wledge to -- there -- and the smaller the number is, the easier your investigation is. the number is relevant. i can't see the culture is relevant. nsa, fbi -- what other u.s. government agencies have the authority to unmask a u.s. citizen's name? director comey: all agencies that collect information pursuant to fisa have one horse and are minimization procedures which are approved by the fisa court to govern how they will treat u.s. information. the nsa does it. the fbi does. i do not know for sure about that. representative gowdy: that is four. house had the authority to unmask the citizen's name? director comey: other elements of the government can ask collectors to unmask. unmasking results with those who have collected the information. it says u.s. person number one, it is important to the fbi to know who that is. our request will go back to that. the whit

>> right now fisas very narrow chain of custody. let's say fbi goes out and gets a fisa.be only three or four folks who are allowed to see or even be aware. steve: could the president see? >> if the president wants to see it, i believe the president could see it. steve: because it's a story that the white house counsel is trying to get. ainsley: chance he saw it and that's why he tweeted this out? >> ainsley the way the plumbing works, the president wouldn't see these things. excuse me, but you just said the president could see. >> if the president, by exception, here i'm really talking about president trump, in order to clear this up. ainsley: right. >> key demand to see this? again, it would be unprecedented but we are in unprecedented circumstance. brian: exactly because it has one president hitting another president and somebody leaking out and many think it's within the intelligence agency which is bad for the american people. in terms of unprecedented. tell me what's wrong with, this general. in 2015 the "wall street journal" reported this, behind the scenes the whi

so it has to deal with fisa and multiple number of fisa warrants out there, but there's nothing, nothing criminal at all involved. >> ah, general fisa warrants out there. what are they? legal orders that allow the government to monitor communications with foreign spies a inside the united states or other foreign dignitaries. it's unclear how the trump transition would be connected to a fisa warrant and generally illegal to publicly disclose the targets of fisa warrants. now how does this play into the president's accusation of president obama wiretapped trump tower? here is what nunes has to say about that. >> i think wiert tapping, you know, if you use it generally like the president has said, you know, he clearly, you know, used it differently than what a lot of people took it, did obama actually wiretap trump tower, no, i think the president's been clear on that. >> wiretapping, do you see anything -- >> no, no. >> one of the great phrases, just simply say i think the president's been clear about that when you don't to want say exactly what the president might have said. meanwhile, pr

everything that's fisa has to be labeled in such a way to warn people this is fisa.o we can get you the number, but i i want to assure you the culture of the fbi and the nsa is ons accessive, and i heene that in a good way. >> i i am not arguing with you, and i do believe the culture is important. but if there are 100 people who have the ability to unmask and the knowledge of a previously-masked name, then that's 100 different potential sources of investigation. and the smaller the number is, the easier your investigation is. so the number is relevant, i concede the culture is relevant. , this sa, fbi -- nsa, fbi, what other u.s. government agencies have the authority to unmask a u.s. citizen's name? >> well, i think all agencies that collect information pursuant to fisa have what are called standard minimization procedures which are approved by the fisa court that govern how they will treat u.s. person information. so i know the nsa does, i know the cia does, obviously, the fbi does. i don't know for sure be that. >> how about the department of -- how about main jus

that's fisa has to be labeled in such a way to warn people, this is fisa, we treat this in a special way. so, we can get you the number, but i want to assure you, the culture of the fbi and the nsa around how we treat u.s. person information is obsessive, and i mean that in a good way. >> director comey, i am not arguing with you, and i do agree the culture is important, but if there are 100 people who have the ability to unmask and the knowledge of a previously masked name, then that's 100 different potential sources of investigation. and the smaller the number is, the easier your investigation is. so, the number is relevant. i concede the culture is relevant. nsa, fbi, what other u.s. government agencies have the authority to unmask a u.s. citizen's name? >> i think all agencies that collect information pursuant to fisa have what are called standard minimization procedures, which are approved by the fisa court that govern how they will treat u.s. person information. so, i know the nsa does, i know the cia does, obviously the fbi does. i don't know for sure behind that. >> how about

court for a fisa warrant. when you have the director one of those agencies say this is not happen it put a huge? over the president's tweet. i cover president trump during the primary and election, he is very active on twitter. it reduced quite a bit since he began the transition and after the inauguration. i kind of think there has to be some evidence for him to say there was a wiretap of trump tower. however, the call me statement does paint a huge?. that's the biggest intelligence agency that did not petition the court. >> eric: as the new york times have you heard anything from the department of justice to push back with the president's claim? >> i've not heard anything from the doj. it does not seem that the white house is making any comments either. i think they have called for congress to investigate. it should should be investigated and should roll into a bigger investigation of whether the trump campaign wasn't medication with the russian officials. >> eric: what you make of this? the fbi versus the p