students from fisk university, tennessee state university, vanderbilt university, peabody college and american baptist. and we had to test the facilities just to establish the fight that we would be served or denied service. it was an interracial group of college students. >> why did you major in philosophy and do you have a major philosophy? >> i majored in philosophy. i was interested in becoming a minister. i studied philosophy and religion long before i went off to school. i had this desire, this burning desire -- some people call it a calling. it's your call to preach. you move out of spirit. but i felt i needed to be trained. when i was a little boy, i used to from time to time play church as a very, very young child. and it was my responsibility on the farm to care for the chickens, to raise the chickens, so we would get all of our chickens together in the chicken yard and my brothers and sisters and my cousins would help make up the audience. make up the congregation. and i was preaching. and when i looked back, some of these chickens would shake their heads. they never quite