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kind of destruction i mean if you look at areas like sonoma county where they've already been huge fison destruction in 2017 again in 2019 again now what can be done to prevent it from happening again and again i mean could the rebuilding of homes be built better be built smarter is definitely a factor about how to build in the wild land urban interface you know i see a lot of construction going in where people are still using wood and other materials that are flammable but i also think that if we think about the seasonal application of fire which is an indigenous way of thinking about it rather than waiting for lightning or other ignition sources to hit during the driest times of the year which is what we're dealing with right now if we were to spread that fire out over the wet season for instance and the time when it's more ecologically beneficial to the landscape we could be restoring the landscape and so what i see is this as a fire back cycle that is perpetuating these fires converting a lot of our wooded areas to grasslands for instance and that's that's a big part of this problem.

definitely a climate change story so you're almost there journalist is speaking to us from the oregon fison thanks very much sergio and you stay safe yourself well you will remember this last southern hemisphere stray experienced a devastating bushfire season not unlike what's happening in north america now and during what's come to be known as the black summer wildlife was decimated at least $3000000000.00 animals killed or displaced and today at least 5000 koalas who die and and now a dispute about how to protect qualis threatened to topple the government of australia's biggest state there's been a split in new south wales over a new policy to protect their habitats the national say they will no longer support legislation which they say unfairly limits the way property owners manage their land and inquiry in june found that koalas could become extinct by 2050 in new south wales if the government doesn't intervene. it will be epstein ing from supporting any government legislation or bills but we reserve the right to vote on and support or not support bills that are relevant to rage and rol