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they say fitzpatrick attacked them at memorial stadium until the visiting clubhouse. says he didn't tell anybody because he was afraid of losing his dream job. >> it was a job of a dream for a young guy. for myself, and i felt like no one would have believed me if i would say something. >> reporter: the other baltimore man who wants to remain anonymous says he was 16 when fitzpatrick sexually abused him in an equipment room. the statute of limitations for legal action has run out but the two accusers are asking for $9 million settlement from the red sox and orioles. >> i just want to know why did this happen, he violated me. >> reporter: fitzpatrick died in 2005 for serving a sentence of attempting to abuse five other boys during spring training. fitzpatrick says that the sexual harassment still haunts him. >> i feel uncomfortable with my son being around male figures, i go everywhere with him. >> thank you, kai. the red sox issued a statement saying fitzpatrick's actions were horrid and he was forced out as soon as they knew of the abuse. >>> now five states are tryi
they say fitzpatrick attacked them at memorial stadium until the visiting clubhouse. says he didn't tell anybody because he was afraid of losing his dream job. >> it was a job of a dream for a young guy. for myself, and i felt like no one would have believed me if i would say something. >> reporter: the other baltimore man who wants to remain anonymous says he was 16 when fitzpatrick sexually abused him in an equipment room. the statute of limitations for legal action has run out...
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fitzpatrick between the 1960's and 1990's.in june of 1990... 38 year old ronald shelton says itzpatrick cornered him "he asked me to take my shirt .- off and started to aress my armm."<>"he appearrd to made me feel uncomfortable after he began to touch my private parts." parts."the victims are seeking 5-million dollars áeachá from the boston ree sox. the statute of limitations for ácriminalá charggs has run out. a woman is hospitalized afttr a fire breakk out in northeast called to the home at the intersection of harford road and carswell street just fter two this morning.the woman was fouud on the froot lawn of the bayview medical center in serious condition.the cause of the fire is still under investigation. andda sccool bus oo the eastern shore is destroyed after a 12-year-old boy brings goes off.take a look.the flare caused this huge plumm of buu.28 ssudents were on the bus at the time.7 ere treated for minor injuries. tensions at city hall over what to do aboot a big problemm with the water billing system. a recent audit revealed tens of thousands of customers have been ooer
fitzpatrick between the 1960's and 1990's.in june of 1990... 38 year old ronald shelton says itzpatrick cornered him "he asked me to take my shirt .- off and started to aress my armm.""he appearrd to made me feel uncomfortable after he began to touch my private parts." parts."the victims are seeking 5-million dollars áeachá from the boston ree sox. the statute of limitations for ácriminalá charggs has run out. a woman is hospitalized afttr a fire breakk out in...
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the former bat boys say fitzpatrick attacked them while in the clubhouse. it happened twice over separate series against the red sox. >> i just wish that this never happened. and i wanted to know why. why would this happen to me? i did not deserve this at all. >> why did you quit being a bat boy and clubhouse attendant at baltimore orioles. >> >> well, i quit because i did not want to be -- have an encounter with fitz again. >> the other baltimore man tells the boston globe he was 16 when fitzpatrick sexually abused him in an equipment room. this was in 1986. >> the statute of limitations for legal action has run out. the accusers are asking for $5 million settlement from the red sox and the orioles. wjz contacted the orioles. they are not contacting the case, but reportedly alerted major league baseball. >>> new details today calling for anne arundel county executive john leopold to resign. wjz is live. mike hellgren spoke to other county leaders about this troubling case. >> reporter: kai, there are new calls for county executive leopold to step down. the
the former bat boys say fitzpatrick attacked them while in the clubhouse. it happened twice over separate series against the red sox. >> i just wish that this never happened. and i wanted to know why. why would this happen to me? i did not deserve this at all. >> why did you quit being a bat boy and clubhouse attendant at baltimore orioles. >> >> well, i quit because i did not want to be -- have an encounter with fitz again. >> the other baltimore man tells the...
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from dan fitzpatrick. frequently on cnbc. fitzpatrick isn't in love with carnival, to be honest. there are elements to the chart he likes. carnival has been building a base for the last eight months. here's our bay babase, okay? at 29, that's pretty amazing, when you think about it. the concorda accident reinforced stock support trend, made the base stronger. it was a high volume washout that got rid of most of the weak. which has been acting as a ceiling of resistance above the stock. i don't like it wait, you know that, i like to get in ahead. but a chart is talking. once carnival closes above this, now at 33 is where the average is, more than a dollar above where the stock went out today. and he thinks the base will be complete and he will be a buyer. now he prefers royal caribbean. but as suggested, we are fishing for a bottom. look at this chart of carnival. different thought patter. talk about carolyn, she runs the web side, and she earned a unique method. she likes the carnival, has been making higher highs and higher lows for the last month. that's what she's keying on. w
from dan fitzpatrick. frequently on cnbc. fitzpatrick isn't in love with carnival, to be honest. there are elements to the chart he likes. carnival has been building a base for the last eight months. here's our bay babase, okay? at 29, that's pretty amazing, when you think about it. the concorda accident reinforced stock support trend, made the base stronger. it was a high volume washout that got rid of most of the weak. which has been acting as a ceiling of resistance above the stock. i don't...
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dan fitzpatrick, what's your take on this story? are you a bull or a bear?well, long term this year, i'm a bull. i think we're poised for some kind of a pullback. but the thing is, we've been poised for that pullback for, you know, the last month, two months. it just seems like this is a trickle-up market. and so you look at all the technicals, larry, and they're really pointing to higher equity prices. there's no way around it. you just kind of have to define your time frame for your bullishness or your bearishness. i think we're going to hit that 1450 mark pretty easily, actually. i think the question is, do we go to 1500 or not, not whether we go to 1450. >> phil, i know you're a huge institutional manager, but if i'm not mistaken, you also manage some retail money. the volume of this rally has still been pretty soft which has given a false signal to some professionals. do you think that the so-called retail crowd will come back into the stock market, or are they still so singed from what happened several years ago? >> well, the low volume, larry, i think
dan fitzpatrick, what's your take on this story? are you a bull or a bear?well, long term this year, i'm a bull. i think we're poised for some kind of a pullback. but the thing is, we've been poised for that pullback for, you know, the last month, two months. it just seems like this is a trickle-up market. and so you look at all the technicals, larry, and they're really pointing to higher equity prices. there's no way around it. you just kind of have to define your time frame for your...
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they join a growing number of accusers who say donald fitzpatrick sexually assaulted them. the former bat boys say fitz patrick attacked them while working in the team's clubhouse. ronald chetteon said it happened twice. >> i just wish it never happened. i wanted to think why would this happen to me? i did not deserve this at all. why did you quit being a bat boy and clubhouse attendants in baltimore orioles? >> well, i quit because i did not want to have an encounter with fitz again. >> the other baltimore man tells the boston globe he was 16 when fitzpatrick sexually assaulted him in 1986. >> the statute for legal action has run out. the accusers are asking for a $5 million settlement from the orioles. >>> a young girl found dead and buried in a pile of garbage. and now police say they know how she died and who is responsible. wjz is live at police headquarters. derek valcourt has the latest in the charges on this case. derek? >> reporter: well, police are calling this an accidental shooting. they say that young girl and two of her young male friends were playing with a r
they join a growing number of accusers who say donald fitzpatrick sexually assaulted them. the former bat boys say fitz patrick attacked them while working in the team's clubhouse. ronald chetteon said it happened twice. >> i just wish it never happened. i wanted to think why would this happen to me? i did not deserve this at all. why did you quit being a bat boy and clubhouse attendants in baltimore orioles? >> well, i quit because i did not want to have an encounter with fitz...
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saying they were abused by fitzpatrick between the 1960's and 1990's.in june off1990... &p38 year old ronald shelton says fitzpatrick correred him in an equipment rrom at memorial stadium before a game. "he asked me to take my shirt off and started to caress my arms."<>"he appeared to be nice, but there was, he made me feel uncomfortable private parts." paats." the vvccims are seeking 5-millionndollars ááachá from the boston red sox. the ácriminalá chaages has run out. tensionn at city hall over what tt do about a big problem with the water billing systtm. a recent audit revealed tens of thousands of customers hhve been overbilled.as jenniffr giibert tellssus... that's why seveeal members of the city council want to stop auctioning off homes withh &punpaid water bills until the city can fix the system. system. "it's their fault"85 year old evelyn foster almost lost her home because the city made a mistakeshe was billed over $16,0000for a water leak accually caused by the city...but mistakenly billed &pto her8:21:31"16 thousand dollars is for the water runninn down
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saying they wre abused by and 1990's.in une of 1990... 38 year old onald shelton says fitzpatrick cornered him in an eqqipment room at memorial stadium before a game. "he asked me to takeemy shirt &poff and started to caress my arms."<>"he ppeared to be nice, but there was, he made me feel uncomfortable after heebegan to touch my private parts." parts."the victims are seeking 5-million dolllrs áeachá fromm the boston red ssx. the statute of liiitations for ácriminalá charges hhs run ouu. &pthe marylanndman... who becam pte first person in the u-s to have his trachea replaced with an artiiicial one... uuing his own stem cells... has dded. died.christopher lylee had a pumor on his trachea.doctors operate on him.but doctors in sweden created one... using his own stem cells.the procedure was incredibly expensive... and the "helpp collecting donations... to reduce his remaining bills. bills.if you'd llke to contribute... ttere's a liik to the fund on our website... fox-baltimore dot com slash newslinks. fema has begun assessing damageefrom the series of tornadoes that sockeddthe midwest
saying they wre abused by and 1990's.in une of 1990... 38 year old onald shelton says fitzpatrick cornered him in an eqqipment room at memorial stadium before a game. "he asked me to takeemy shirt &poff and started to caress my arms.""he ppeared to be nice, but there was, he made me feel uncomfortable after heebegan to touch my private parts." parts."the victims are seeking 5-million dolllrs áeachá fromm the boston red ssx. the statute of liiitations for...
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pretend that they don't know this is just taking money out of their pocket and giving it to the sean fitzpatrick gulag state of casino incompetence and they're choking on it but i want to point out that the word boycott entered the english language during the irish land war. and is derived from the name of captain charles boycott the land agent of an absentee landlord lord ernest who was subject to social ostracism organized by the irish land league in eighteen eighty so you know i want to point out though that first of all it was an absentee landlord which is what the e.u. the i.m.f. the e.c. the goldman sachs and all the banks that are the unsecured bond holders of anglo-irish this is the same exact situation and i also want to say that social ostracism is something that was presented here in the kaiser report by luke sociate a french lawyer who was presenting this to the french parliament saying that we should start using social ostracism to get people to turn their backs on bankers and see them as social pariah and it worked in the case of this charles. went to the town to go to a bakery or
pretend that they don't know this is just taking money out of their pocket and giving it to the sean fitzpatrick gulag state of casino incompetence and they're choking on it but i want to point out that the word boycott entered the english language during the irish land war. and is derived from the name of captain charles boycott the land agent of an absentee landlord lord ernest who was subject to social ostracism organized by the irish land league in eighteen eighty so you know i want to...
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fitzpatrick. >> thank you, mr. chairman. here we are in hearing three of the series of hearings investigating mf global. we know throughout the week of october 24, mf global lacked cash severely that led to bankruptcy on october 31. in those chaotic final days, up to $1.6 billion in customer money went missing. at a time when america's people are a lacked confidence in america's markets, mf global provides an example of how multimillion dollar securities firms can impact middle-class americans. many members of this committee, i have had constituents at affected by this event, and that is who i am here to speak for. we owe it to customers who lost money to discover exactly what happened at mf global. what these hearings are also designed to do is to provide insight into our financial markets and regulations designed to protect them. the american people expect us to hold wrongdoers accountable and protect those who play by the rules. here we are. as numbers of the house of representatives, we are here to stand in place for mil
fitzpatrick. >> thank you, mr. chairman. here we are in hearing three of the series of hearings investigating mf global. we know throughout the week of october 24, mf global lacked cash severely that led to bankruptcy on october 31. in those chaotic final days, up to $1.6 billion in customer money went missing. at a time when america's people are a lacked confidence in america's markets, mf global provides an example of how multimillion dollar securities firms can impact middle-class...
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eight more men are coming forward against donald fitzpatrick.y accuse of molesting at least nine boys when he was clubhouse manager from '71-'91. "the globe" reports it happened at the team's spring training facility. he died seven years ago after serving a ten-year suspended sentence with the florida crimes. >>> to roet rhode island where a judge sent a really strong message about reckless driving. during sentencing he baned a 17-year-old boy driving from life after he slammed his car into this tree last october. according to affiliate the teen and his three passengers were at a party, boozing it up before the accident. the judge said, quote, if you're going to drive dangerously in rhode island and you're a young person, the court's going to respond accordingly. branson, missouri, warning system people count on failed to activate when tornadoes hit last week. that city says the code red system was supposed to automatically send a recorded warning or text when the tornadoes hit. hit. nothing was sent. the fire chief says he spoke with code red a
eight more men are coming forward against donald fitzpatrick.y accuse of molesting at least nine boys when he was clubhouse manager from '71-'91. "the globe" reports it happened at the team's spring training facility. he died seven years ago after serving a ten-year suspended sentence with the florida crimes. >>> to roet rhode island where a judge sent a really strong message about reckless driving. during sentencing he baned a 17-year-old boy driving from life after he...
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. >> reporter: attorney peter fitzpatrick says the lack of oversight by police is unacceptable. he represents a client who had a 5% difference between her pas test and chemical test results. >> it's a huge discrepancy, and it shows how inaccurate these machines were. >> reporter: the public defender's office is asking anyone who was arrested for dui by san francisco police and given a pas test to contact them. a spokesperson for the san francisco police department says they have taken all 20 devices out of use. he has confirmed that and the department is cooperating fully with both the offices of the public defender and the district attorney. live in san francisco, kimberly tere, nbc bay area news. >>> well, what started as an nbc bay area investigation has now grown into a state audit. seven south bay legislators are asking for a state audit of san jose's pension controversy. today at city hall, these lawmakers say they want to know the source of the pension estimates used by mayor chuck reed for the last year. our investigation exposed the inflated amount of a projected $650 m
. >> reporter: attorney peter fitzpatrick says the lack of oversight by police is unacceptable. he represents a client who had a 5% difference between her pas test and chemical test results. >> it's a huge discrepancy, and it shows how inaccurate these machines were. >> reporter: the public defender's office is asking anyone who was arrested for dui by san francisco police and given a pas test to contact them. a spokesperson for the san francisco police department says they...
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for more, let's bring in dan fitzpatrick, joining us from irvine, california..80? >> that's wh 1480? >> i think so. volume really picked up. we have some overhead resistance, i would say around 1620 to 1640, but the short-term trend is clearly down, so that's the level of support i see. it's the first real logical buy point. >> you're looking back to 2008, when you say we saw a similar correction, 28% down in seven months. after that, we ramped back up 150%. >> right, yes. also, during that correction shun on a fibonacci basis, 61.8 correction. that's a pretty big correction. gold trades -- it's pretty volatile, but the overall trend is up, but when you get a correction, what you have is a real flight out of the gold, out of the precious metals into something else, but ultimately i think this trend reasserts itself. it's just going to take a while. you look at the way the market is, gold is trading inversely to the s&p, which is different, and i think there's a big reason for that. that is just equities are really attractive relative to pressure metals. we alwa
for more, let's bring in dan fitzpatrick, joining us from irvine, california..80? >> that's wh 1480? >> i think so. volume really picked up. we have some overhead resistance, i would say around 1620 to 1640, but the short-term trend is clearly down, so that's the level of support i see. it's the first real logical buy point. >> you're looking back to 2008, when you say we saw a similar correction, 28% down in seven months. after that, we ramped back up 150%. >> right,...
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it's a major undertaking, overseen by putting president james fitzpatrick and the producers.t these guys in drag and say, oh, my god, you've got that totally wrong. what are you think something. >> they actually do a great job. >> they play their roles very well. i think by the end of the run they can walk in heels better than either of us. >> reporter: with a harvard education costing in excess of $50,000 a year, you might be wondering what some of their parents think. >> they think it's actually one of the best things i could have done coming to harvard. they know it's a real-life experience i couldn't have gotten anywhere else. >> it's hard to explain to anyone's parents what this is. like oh, i know i've never done this before. i'm going to hang out with a bunch of guys who wear drag. it's really normal. it's just a tradition at harvard. >> reporter: the hasty pudding is certainly long on tradition. it's the oldest collegiate theater group in the country. founded as a social club in 1795, the group got its name from a dish served at meetings, a notoriously bland pour ridg
it's a major undertaking, overseen by putting president james fitzpatrick and the producers.t these guys in drag and say, oh, my god, you've got that totally wrong. what are you think something. >> they actually do a great job. >> they play their roles very well. i think by the end of the run they can walk in heels better than either of us. >> reporter: with a harvard education costing in excess of $50,000 a year, you might be wondering what some of their parents think....
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adams, canseco, crawford, dold, duffy, fincher, fitzpatrick, webster, grimm, hayworth, renacci and gardner. here's canseco and gardner heading in to host happy hour. donors had to pay at least $10,000 to get in. during his campaign, gardner promised average voters would inspire his actions. >> i will always put colorado families before the washington special interests. >> but in key largo, gardner appeared to offer special interests lot of face time. here he's talking to an it tend ee who says he works for a bank. they head out on a group of boats here, including one named good life. looks like congressman daniel webster is going fishing too. back in 2010 at a tea party rally, webster criticized washington's ways. >> america is not broken. washington is. >> then there's congressman jim renacci manning the golf cart. donors got time on the links as part of the deal. some congressmen brought their pouss and special interests got to share lively dinner conversation at a restaurant with gourmet delights, such as braced baby octopus. there's gardner and canseco again and congressman back us. he
adams, canseco, crawford, dold, duffy, fincher, fitzpatrick, webster, grimm, hayworth, renacci and gardner. here's canseco and gardner heading in to host happy hour. donors had to pay at least $10,000 to get in. during his campaign, gardner promised average voters would inspire his actions. >> i will always put colorado families before the washington special interests. >> but in key largo, gardner appeared to offer special interests lot of face time. here he's talking to an it tend...
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. >> attorney peter fitzpatrick discovered the problem when his client took two breath tests an houre's five points off between their machines, which is a huge discrepancy. it should never be, no criminalist will say that's reasonable. >> when we drink, alcohol is absorbed in the blood and carried to the brain through the liver and heart. before diffusing in the lungs. there it's ex hailed and detected by the breathalyzer machine. the results are only as accurate as the technology. >> when the equipment fails, when the computer generator technology simply isn't maintained properly, suddenly the whole system is thrown into chaos and we can't rely on anything in terms of the results. >> drunk driving convictions are serious. you can lose your license, your job and spend time in jail. now hundreds of people may get a dui do-over. >> while the police department conducts it own investigation, the san francisco public defender's office and district attorney are reviewing cases to determine if any drivers were wrongfully convicted by the faulty data. >> the information we have at this point
. >> attorney peter fitzpatrick discovered the problem when his client took two breath tests an houre's five points off between their machines, which is a huge discrepancy. it should never be, no criminalist will say that's reasonable. >> when we drink, alcohol is absorbed in the blood and carried to the brain through the liver and heart. before diffusing in the lungs. there it's ex hailed and detected by the breathalyzer machine. the results are only as accurate as the technology....
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fitzpatrick, for one minute. >> thank you, mr. chairman. here we are in hearing three of a series of hearings, investigating the facts around the collapse of mf global. we no mf global suffered a severe lack of cash that led to the firm filing bankruptcy on october 31. and in those chaotic final days of the $1.6 billion in custer money went missing. at a time when americans already lack confidence to financial markets, mf global provides another devastating example of how multi-million dollars security fronts consider the impact middle-class americans. like many members of this committee i've had constituents effected by this event, and that is who i am here to speak for. we owe it to customers who lost money to discover exactly what happened at mf global. what these hearings are also designed to do is to provide insight into our financial markets and the regulatory regimes designed to protect them. the american people expect us to hold the wrongdoers accountable and to protect those who play by the rules. so here we are dumb as members of
fitzpatrick, for one minute. >> thank you, mr. chairman. here we are in hearing three of a series of hearings, investigating the facts around the collapse of mf global. we no mf global suffered a severe lack of cash that led to the firm filing bankruptcy on october 31. and in those chaotic final days of the $1.6 billion in custer money went missing. at a time when americans already lack confidence to financial markets, mf global provides another devastating example of how multi-million...
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fitzpatrick: dan was someone who loved his country and cared deeply about its future. during his life, he served his community and worked to better the lives of those around him. he imparted these values to his children who have gone on to contribute greatly to their communities as well. i had the honor and the pleasure of knowing dan. he left a lasting impression on those he touched, may his soul rest in peace. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from nevada seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i seek unanimous con sent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker. today in nevada a funeral service is being held for william j.. when you think of nevada public service, his name tops our list. when you think of legislative leadership in the silver state, bill's name tops our list. when you think of self-made individuals in nevada, bill's name once again tops all lists. it is with sincere sorrow
fitzpatrick: dan was someone who loved his country and cared deeply about its future. during his life, he served his community and worked to better the lives of those around him. he imparted these values to his children who have gone on to contribute greatly to their communities as well. i had the honor and the pleasure of knowing dan. he left a lasting impression on those he touched, may his soul rest in peace. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from...
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fitzpatrick you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you mr. chairman. mr.steenkamp did you on sunday, october 30 or any day for that matter, did you instruct anybody at mf global to hold off on contacting regulators about mf locals segregated deficiency? >> i have no memory of instructing anybody to hold off. >> have no memory of instructing anybody? >> no. >> ms. sawinski you stated on page three of your testimony that on saturday i was initially told that the segregation and secured statement for friday showed the firm to be under segregated. who told you that? >> someone on our staff i believe. i don't recall exactly who the person was. >> you need to pull the microphone closer. >> someone on my staff. >> someone on your staff? and who was that? >> i don't recall if that was the regulatory capital comptroller or the comptroller. >> it would be a pretty significant piece of information you received on the day that you were turned back from your vacation, correct? you don't remember who told you that you had a significant deficiency? >> originally when the
fitzpatrick you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you mr. chairman. mr.steenkamp did you on sunday, october 30 or any day for that matter, did you instruct anybody at mf global to hold off on contacting regulators about mf locals segregated deficiency? >> i have no memory of instructing anybody to hold off. >> have no memory of instructing anybody? >> no. >> ms. sawinski you stated on page three of your testimony that on saturday i was initially told that...