to burn the american flag.e should be consequences perhaps loss of citizenship or a year in jail. while it is legal to burn the flag it's legal to do it. some encourage it to do. flag burning.org. mark, i always take guests seriously. it's hard to take it seriously. i want to ask you a straightforward question which is why would you burn the american flag? >> well, one would burn the american flag in a situation where the government has gotten so far right that the only why it really protest it is to assert our rights as a citizen to go ahead and burn the flag and be that offensive because what's happening in america is that offensive. and there are situations that justify burning the american flag. and we have the right to do so. and it's one of those things that you don't take lightly. and it's an important issue. but it's something that we as citizens need to be able to assert our rights, you know. >> you said three times you have a right to do it and no one is contest the supreme court has done it you also

they can't function in the face of the flag now?lag has to go to accommodate the few who it happens to distress. really? >> i read your book over the weekend and it was great to get that plug in. >> thank you. >> secondly, i agree with you. if you're distressed over the american flag or really over anything, including the burning of the american flag which is legal, you need to grow up and that goes for both sides. if the sight of the american flag hurts your feelings so much that you can't focus on your studies, maybe you should think about doing something else other than going to college. >> you should never leave your house. there are flags everywhere. >> not only that but you probably see things on a daily basis that upset you. if you can't handle it, you should probably stay home. >> you should function in the face of adversity. let's put aside the notion that the flag is adversity. let's accept the dean's statement that's a traumatic event for the students to see it. you have to function in the face of it. this is one of the t

because i found out that his ran a barber shop and the flag that was a a confederate flag. he did not want his family , he had hat he had a found somebody that might be his became nd we never friends. we never saw each other after day. we never spoke after that day. think often about what ould have happened if he and i had not embraced a symbol and a and a philosophy that prevented us from ever knowing each other before we ever gave a chance. [applause] defender, ioned the which circulated on the rail ands throughout the country told the story and kept the running tally of the number of lynchings. very important institution in merican life for black americans. attempt to ongoing make ithe civil war, to less creepy, less scary, to make sectional consciousness of less untry that prevailed frightening to all americans out as much cial interest as anything else? when i look at something like south, song of the uncle remus, when i look at like the ole miss mascot running on the field with an enormous flag dressed up as a cavalry officer, the the old south and campuses.land grant

there are red flags all over the place. let's understand the somali refugee who basically passed through pakistan before he came here. at the end of the day it brings in the question if they actually can that people. since 911 the 580 individuals convicted 30080 were foreign-born. twenty-one from somalia. on whether or not people like what donald trump or jeff sessions were jeff sessions says they're absolutely right. see mike we have a cop who is been hailed as a hero as well. >> i think that's great. if you look at ohio state university the same things that they've said about that. they're very inflammatory. they went to a mandatory training course. you have student protesters going in and sitting on the mayor's lawn. and that they be put back in the communities. i think you've seen them be hostile to police. the 28-year-old police officer ended up getting involved with campus security. that inspired him to become a police officer. he did get use of force training and he was the right man in the right spot. a lot of them

this morning, a few minutes after a fox news segment on flag burning, donald trump tweeted about flag burning. allowed to burn the american flag. consequences, perhaps loss of citizenship or a year in jail. more on this topic later, but for the record, that will be unconstitutional and revoking citizenship for descent would be the stuff of fascism. nobody in the united states can citizenship. carrier announced they would the workers, at their indiana base, that they plan to idle, moving their operations to mexico. this reverses a decision by us we will be in fact, trump said it himself on twitter tonight, a big >>> let's talk about this day in politics. starting us off tonight, vaughn hilliard, who is covering the just back from dinner. chief for american urban radio network. and ken vogel from politico is with us private life because you were there to cover some flavor of dinner tonight. surroundings? brian, i did not have the sauted frogs or the chocolate cake that they had, but it was several hours from now at trump tower where donald trump left with his motorcade about eight block

the flag is a symbol. so many things to so many different people, but it fundamentally is about american core values. and it does protect those who hold it in contempt. >> but let's hope it continues to protect them, because he has control over appointments to the supreme court. all he has to do is appoint one more justice, fill the scalia vacancy and it could be in danger. that's why the senate has to play an important role in making sure that the president doesn't eviscerate our basic constitutional rights. >> within of his signature policies he's mentioned is banning of muslims. would that undermine into tanot aspect of the first amendment. >> presidents have controlled the boarders. they can decide on quotas from certain countries. immigration policies, obviously, a power of the federal government. you certainly could not have a policy that said all muslims are not allowed in the united states. and that was how he initially phrased that proposal. he's sort of backed away from it lately. i don't know wh

misuse of the battle flag. it was not the african-american press, but the protectors of the confederate flame initially reacting against it to make sure it was used only in the revered memorial symbol and not the way it became by the time of the civil war centennial. that is the context of the early 1950's for the use of the flag. dr. brown douglas, would we install a set of windows like that today if -- today? if we did, how would it be different? >> what an easy question. [laughter] as i contemplate that question i ask a prior question. and that is what we have even installed those windows in 1954 or beyond. because they were installed in 1953. 1954, in response to the brown versus board of education decision, confederate symbols began to gather new meaning or different meanings as even dr. koski points out in his book. those meetings began to become clear that the symbols were symbols of white supremacy, or at least segregationists symbols and symbols that stood against the decision of brown versus the board

die for this flag. i fought for this flag. i lived for it. you all live for it. >> reporter: veterans shared their story of fighting for cost. christopher fought for this country alongside his brother. >> my mom got this at his grave site the day he was laid to rest. >> reporter: in flag represents his family's patriotism and sacrifice. that's why he is speaking out. >> too much blood has been shed for our country, for our freedom ? god bless america ? ? my home sweet home [cheering] >> reporter: kerry kavanaugh, fox25 news. >> jason: the school's president tells fox25 he stands by the decision to remove the flag, but promises of talks of what the flag represents will continue. >>> the united states navy is honoring the final wishes of a veteran after his death. captain paul rogers will be laid to rest at the bottom the ocean 200 miles off the coast of new england. the move will fulfill his buried at sea. he lives with survivor guilt. she was supposed to be on the uss thrasher and was taken off last min

. >> i would die for this flag. i fought r i live for it. >> reporter: veterans shared their stories of fighting for the american dream no matter the cost. christopher dupont fought along his brother. >> this is the flag my mom got at his grave site the day that he was laid to rest. >> reporter: he says this flag represents his family's patriotism and sacrifice. it's exactly why he is speaking out today. >> how much blood has been shed for our country for our ? god bless america ? ? my home sweet home ? >> the university's president is standing by his decision tonight. he says the discussion about what the flag represents will continue. >>> the commuter rail is forming an action committee to study issues out of poor performance. the worcester line is performance of just 61%. that's based on the last 30 days. keolis said in its report that leave created slippery track conditions which caused some of the delays during the fall. but the action group will be examining the schedule and resources dedicated to that line. >

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i do not approve of burning the flag.nishment, but right now the supreme court decision is that people are free to express themselves that way, but i do not approve of it and i think there's other ways for people to express their views rather than burn a flag that so many americans fought and died for. >> even said lose citizenship over it. he said people should lose citizenship. >> i'm not going to comment on mr. trump's comments. i have not and will not. >> so he's commenting without commenting. bryan, what do you make of that? >> well, in 1989, justice kennedy in agreeing with the prohibition of any ban on flag burning, justice kennedy said the american flag protects even those who hold it in contempt. and that is one of the great ironies here is that the flag is a symbol -- it means so many things to so many different people but it fundamentally is about american core values. and it does protect those who hold it in contempt. >> let's hope it continues to protect them because he has control over appointments to the su

this morning, a few minutes after a fox news segment on flag burning, donald trump tweeted about flag burning. he said, quote, nobody should be allowed to burn the american flag. if they do, there must be consequences, perhaps loss of citizenship or a year in jail. more on this topic later, but for the record, that will be unconstitutional and revoking citizenship for descent would be the stuff of fascism. nobody in the united states can be punished by removal of u.s. citizensth citizenship. there was some election-related news just tonight. carrier announced they would keep a thousand, or roughly half the workers, at their indiana base, that they plan to idle, moving their operations to mexico. this reverses a decision by carrier and it was a big campaign promise by donald trump. something tells us we will be hearing more about this. in fact, trump said it himself on twitter tonight, a big announcement there on thursday. >>> let's talk about this day in politics. starting us off tonight, vaughn hilliard, who is covering the trump transition. he is at trump tower tonight just back fro

jailing flag burners.here is such a disconnect between donald trump and the underpinning flo underpinning philosophies that make us a pluralistic and democratic society and make us better than the countries he routinely lambasted, cuba, iran and china, where flag burning is illegal. >> it's interesting. you got the personal impact of this, jeff, last night. you had an excellent report on cnn talking about the accusation from donald trump that millions of people voted illegally in the most recent presidential election. then he went after cnn, went after you with a retweet of sorts. some are suggesting he simply overreacts and goes maybe is even undermining some democracy, if you will. >> it could be the direction he is heading. i'm not sure these are completely unrelated things. it all goes after the first amendment. he is, a, trying to de-legitimize people's trust in a lot of things. institutions, the media. there are questions about the media that can be raised by people. no question about it. people don'

flag. if they do, there should be consequences. perhaps loss of citizenship or a year in jail. while the vice president passed on that question -- >> mr. vice president elect, what's on the agendas today? trump's one time he model for a supreme court justice. he once said flag sburng protected free speech. >> if write kii were king, i wo let people burn the american flag. we have a first amendment which says that the right of free speech shall not be abridged and it is addressed, in particular, to speech critical of the government. >> trump spokesmen disagrees. >> i think most americans would agree that flag burning should be illegal. er it is completely despicable. trump is lashing out at the news media saying i thought cnn would get better after they failed so badly i with their support of hillary clinton. since the election, they are worse. he also glans fact checking reports. poking holes in the baseless claim that millions of fraudulent votes the went to clinton, which simply did not h

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the flag was burned. the college had decided to keep the flag down while there is a campus-wide discussion over the flag and its role. to protest the decision, a group of about 1,000 veterans gathered on sunday carrying flags. >> that story has been unfolding for nearly a week where a flag burning incident and the school administration's response have sparked days of protest. many demanding that the flag be raised again and some outraged that it was den gated from the wake of the election and donald trump weighing in with his thoughts on flag burning. nobody should be allowed to burn the american flag and if they do, there must be consequences. perhaps loss of citizenship or a year in jail. we don't know what prompted donald trump to make that comment on twitter this morning amid a busy week in the transition process. we know that that tweet we just read to you came a few minutes after fox news aired this. >> a massachusetts college that we have been talking about for about a week, blanketed in red, white

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i do not approve of burning the flag. i think there should be some punishment but i right now the supreme court decision is that people are free to express themselves that way. but i do not approve of it and i think there's other ways for people to express their views rather than burn a flag that so many americans fought and died for. >> he even said lose citizenship over it. he said people should lose citizenship. >> i do not comment on mr. trump's comments. i have not and will not. >> reporter: why not? he's the president-elect and you're a senior member up here. >> because it's my choice and i am just reelected by the people of arizona and during that campaign i do not comment on mr. trump. will continue to not because i have to defend this nation. i'm the chairman of the arms services committee. we have all kinds of challenges. my time is devoting to trying to make sure this nation is secured, not to comment on every comment of mr. trump's. now, that may be your priority and yours and yours, that may be your priority

and keep in mind it's only one flag. there are several flags around the college. they are flying but the one main flag in the college is not. >> have students had any reaction to donald trump's statement this morning? >> reporter: this is a very small school in a very small town and i think they are blown away by the magnitude of the backlash to all of this. the protest this past sunday, another one planned. we spoke to one student who is a trustee here at the school, sort of like being on the student government. he gets to actually vote with the trustees on a lot of matters pertaining to the school. here's what he had to say about the -- donald trump tweeting about this. >> like today what donald trump has said, the president-elect of the united states, that those who burn the flag should be jailed or lose their citizenship. what does that say about our first amendment? what does that say about freedom of speech? i think those are much more complicated issues and those are much more important than talking about a small college in the middle of massachusetts that

a flag?ouldn't be a less popular thing. but here is the risk that you're talking about. you undermine what is protected in this country, and that may come at a cost. if we start to create our laws based on what we like versus what our constitution says must be allowed as an exercise of freedom, that's scary, mark. that's scary. >> yeah, no doubt. but listen, he is trying to distract away from -- chris, i do agree with what he was saying about the vote fraud. but the fact is it's a self-inflicted wound. he's the one who came out and said, you know, about the vote fraud. so he's only creating a more difficult situation for him, digging himself a bigger hole. to your point, the fact that he said in the tweet last night that you could lose -- perhaps lose your citizenship. >> citizenship. >> i'm going to take away your citizenship or i'm going to give you a year in jail. he's already creating the penalties that would happen if you were to do that. >> nobody likes that. >> he lass a good ear for h

. >> i would die for this flag. i fought for this flag. i live for it. you all live for it. >> another higher education controversy in massachusetts as the american flag has been banned from a campus there. we will tell you all about it. ♪ speaking foreign language] >> fidel castro not of this earth anymore, but the left still loves him. we will tell you what a terrible tyrant he was. >> hail trump. hail our people. tail victory. >> also ahead, talking about tyrants. what is the truth about the white power movement in the u.s.a.? caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ ♪ hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. we have three talking points memos one on donald trump saying millions of illegal aliens voted in the last second election. second white power and third why the left loves deceased dictator fidel castro. first two stories on college campuses lead the factor this evening. today at ohio state 11 people were hurt. one critically when they were attacked by a somali-born man who was then shot to de

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flag. i fought for this flag, i will live for it. you all live for it. >> reporter: veterans shared their stories of fighting for the american dream no matter the cost. christopher dupont fought for our country alongside his brother. >> this is a flag that my mom got at his grave sight the day he was laid to rest. >> he says this flag represents families patriotism and sacrifice. >> too much blood has been shed for you our country for our freedom. ? god bless america ? ? my home sweet home ? >> while the did not likely to continue the university's president is standing by the decision tonight. he says the discussion about what the flag represents will continue. >>> ahead on fox 25 what the tv personality tweeted about out tonight. >>> but first someone scored big in last night's powerball drawing but we don't know who yet. where the winning ticket was >>> well, talk about lucky. a powerball player who bought a ticket in tennessee just got a whole lot richer about $421 million richer in fact. must be nice, huh. the ticket matched all

i wear the flag. >> ten seconds. >> i salute the flag and always will. >> as quickly as i can, exactly the reason this is scary to me. this is in the constitution. the fact we're saying the dumbing down of america, it absolutely is -- >> the supreme court at one point decided. >> please. just saying that's the dummying down of america to forget that actually is to be protected. >> supreme court -- >> you guys are the smartening up of america. great to have you here. >> you're welcome, america. you're smarter now. thank you. we'll be right back. >>> it is giving tuesday. we want to show you how to help this year's top ten cnn heroes continue their important work. anderson cooper has more. >>> i'm anderson cooper. each of this year's top ten cnn heroes proves one person really can make a difference. this year we're making it easy to support their great work. go to cnnheroes.com and click donate to the top ten hero to make a direct contribution to that hero's fund-raiser. you'll receive an e-mail confirm

it's fun with flags ? both: ? fun with flags. ? as you may notice, just one of the changes around here is our new house band. who haven't learned their place yet. we're also coming to you live from a different apartment. dr. fowler and i began an experiment in living together after her apartment became water damaged. this is our friend penny's place. you may remember her from our episode "flags: and the people who don't understand them." so, in the spirit of cohabitation, the theme of today's episode is flags of two regions coming together as one. such as the flag of st. kitts and nevis. so, let's roll up our "sleevis" and get to know nevis. (rimshot) well, i-i like that, but next time check with me. did you know that the flag was designed by a student named edrice lewis... i can't believe i'm saying this, but can we watch the news or something?

i've said a lot worse to refs without getting flags. i let the frustrations of some of the penalties they were calling affect me and i lost my cool and i can't do that. >> panthers quarterback cam newton was not happy with the the knees by calais campbell which didn't draw a flag and mercy, cam didn't use any words when addressing the media. >> it's not fun. it's not fun. it's really taking the fun out of the game for me. honestly. at times, i don't even feel safe. enough is enough. >> well, the league agreed with cam newton today saying calais flagged for hitting him blow the knee and fans, players, coaches all clearly upset with a high number of flags referees are throwing out there this year and i tell you what, it's making the game unwatch you believe for all of us; right? >> yeah. >> i was getting frustrated watching the game. >> but it's kind of a dam inside yo do, and dammed in you don't. if you don't protect the players enough in the case of cam newton. >> sure. sure. you need the referees to legislate the game but, mark, maybe

when it comes to burning the american flag. we'll begin with ricky who says in part as a marine who fought under the flag and set my brother's home under it if you decide to burn my flag in my presence prepare for me to defend it and for the consequences that follow. that he says i believe there is a ball to protect the flag not freedom of speech total disrespect for the law. benefits they should lose the. jim writes take away they're welfare unemployment food stamps and other benefits and this would stop immediately. a proud american who is blessed to live under this flag. and this is spitting in my face the face of my country by burning the flag. west main grays with a president-elect once again trump is correct a big reason why we the people made him president entirely about respect honor morals. robert writes i see it sm the speech is what comes out of your mouth. or sign language. not to justify your actions of discontent or anger. if you are so offended that you need to burn a flag go to another country that supports your

but can a president ban flag burning? >>> 10 investigates the disgng hundreds of homes and businesses destroyed. >>> it is the worst fire to hit tennessee in 100 years. >> more than a dozen fires are burning near gatlinburg. >> let's get caught up with some of the latest numbers we have. three people have been killed, more than a dozen are in the hospital. 14,000 people have been evacuated as a wall of flames being fueled by the areas worst drought in a decade. >> this a cell phone video taken by two brothers as they escaped from a vacation resort area in the mountains of gatlinburg, tennessee. they say they had no warning is a wall of flame surrounded them last night. and their only choice was to write rude or die. by early evening, wind speeds doubled at hurricane force winds at 87 miles an hour. fires quickly spread this drought sick?stricken area with burning ambles, heat, and topple trees ripped down power lines. to make it so close to the resort. >> this community is at the edge of great smoky mountains national par

most people are offended by flag burning. fine more mr. trump to speak out against flag burning. was he not as upset when people were doing the hitler salute? they have a first amendment right to do so. but when people who claim to support donald trump are making nazi phrases, he have is not as offended. he has to be careful about pick and choosing. >> i'm more offended by burning the flag. it's something we love. people see the salute as a hateful thing. >> but they're expressions protected by the first amendment. >> understood. gentlemen, lady, thank you very much for being with us. i like the respectful disagreement. alisyn? >>> house democrats are pushing their republican colleagues to address donald trump's conflicts of interest that you've just heard about. now they're calling for an urgent investigation. by the time you head to the bank and wait to get approved for a home loan, that newly listed, mid-century ranch with the garden patio will be gone. or you could push that button. sfx: rocket launching. cockpit sounds and music crescendo. skip the bank, skip the waiting, an

quote, nobody should be allowed to burn the american flag. if they do, there must be consequences, perhaps loss of citizenship, or year in jail. but burning the flag is a form of free speech under the first amendment, upheld twice by the supreme court. >> in this country, we have a long tradition of respecting unpleasant speech. i happen to support the supreme court's decision on that matter. >> reporter: it's not that americans like flag-burning. in fact, before those court rulings, 48 of 50 states had laws banning it. in 2005, hillary clinton backed a bill that would jail flag-burners. still to some, more troubling than trump's threat to imprison protesters who burn the flag, is his suggestion of stripping citizenship. that would also be unconstitutional. >> the supreme court has ruled that taking someone's citizenship away can't be used as a punishment. that citizenship isn't a license that expires when someone commits a crime. >> reporter: now even newt gingrich, a high profile trump ally says he's got his own concerns about certain trump

later someone burned the flag. college then announced they would remove old glory f campus all together. >> stand up for something but don't need to take flag down. >> uproar spiraled, group from the vfw from college turned into sea of flags in protest. >> i would die for this flag, i live for it. you all live for it. >> sara: veterans share stories of fighting for the american dream no matter the christopher dupont was alongside his brother. >> got at gravesite the moment he was laid to rest. >> sara: flag represents the family's patriotism and sacrifice and exactly why he is speaking out now. >> much blood has been shed for the country, for the ? ? >> jason: school's president standing by the decision to remove the flag but promising talks about what the flag represents will continue. >> jason: >> julie: keolis operates commuter rail says worcester line averaging 61% based on last over the fall created by leaves on the tracks and now action group will be examining the schedule and resources dedicated to that line

students did burn a flag. here's how his team responded. >> one of the great things about the president elect is he's going to voice his opinion. when he has something to say he's going to say it and people are going to know it. >> it r back to the late 1980s. we had this before. congress passed the flag protection act. the supreme court ruled that burning the flag is is protected free spech! kennedy wrote the flag protects those who hold it in contempt. >> trump ran and won on the theme of law and ored and knows many supporters agree with his belief people should not be and a democratic congress agreed with him decades ago. it does, at least raise questions about his pick to replace justice scalia and where he or she may stand on this as well. this may be a long way from finished. long way from finished we have a lot of ground in the second half of the show. now it's time for something different in tonights humor segment. this time it's going to be a little differential. >> we taped our first password challen

. >> blood, sweat, tears, red, white blue, that's what it is and what the flag represents. >> flag stands for many things. >> raise flag. >> lights, liberty, pursuit of happiness. >> stands for all the veterans around the whole nation, everybody who fought for this flag. it is more than just symbol. administrators say that's what they are doing by removing the flag. fox25 spoke to the school's president jonathan lash last week. >> symbol was raising temperature of controversy and decision getting us away from the underflying values that we wanted to discuss. >> sara: flag lowered to staff and remove old glory from campus all together. >> stand up for something. >> sara: uproar spiraled, group from the amherst vfw and turned into a sea of flags waving in protest. >> all live for it. >> veterans fighting for the american dream no matter the christopher depunt fought for the country alongside his brother. >> this is flag that my mom got at gravesite the day that he was laid to rest. >> sara: says the flag represents the family's patriottism and sacrifice and exactly why speaking out now. >>

are honoring the flag. honor and desecration are in the eye of the beholder. or the wearer. joining us now, felix salmon, and david corn and a msnbc political analyst. david, what do you make of mitt romney's night with donald trump and the rest of what you're hearing about this cabinet? >> well, that video you just showed, what it looks like when someone is eating crow. i mean, i know they put the menu out, and he had the lamb chops, not the sirloin. and they had frog legs. i understand that. but i think it was all crow. a crow-fu-turkey, whatever it might be. you can't reconcile what you showed mitt saying a couple months ago with what he's saying now, that said, it may be a good thing for humanity if there's someone in the cabinet who is not as crazy as michael flynn, and if it has to be mitt romney, so be it. as said about george h.w. bush years ago, putting his manhood in a blind trust and he comes out and sucks up to trump that way. >> mitt romney's had such a troubled history with donald trump. in mi

in 1989 the supreme court protected the flag-burning as free speech. that decision came after a texas protesr republican national convention. the issue came again up again when congress passed the flag protection act of 1989...but the supreme court ruked this was unconstitutional as well. so for as much frustration that an act like flag- burning causes for many americans, it's one that the supreme court says americans have the right to do. as a side- note...it's interesting to note that hillary clinton cosponored a bill in 2005 that would have banned flag- burning and given that proposal got around the free-speech argument by focusing on cases where flag-burning was used to incite violence. despite flag- burning being a protected part of free speech...many people do think there should be punishment for this type of expression. if you haven't weighed in on the conversation, make sure you do on our facebook page. we'll share some of those comments coming up at 6. back to you. big changes could be coming soon to clearwater. the city is desperate to find n

later, someone burned the flag. the college then announced they would remove old glory from campus altogether. >> stand up for something but you don't need to take a >> the flag of our united states of america. >> an up-roar spiralled. a group from the amherst vfw organized an demonstration today that turned into a sea of flags waving in protest. >> i would die for this flag. i fought for this flag, i will live for it. you all live for it. >> reporter: veterans shared their stories of fighting for the american dream no matter the cost. christopher dupont fought for our country alongside his brother. >> this is a flag that my mom got at the day he was laid to rest. >> he says this flag represents families patriotism and sacrifice. >> too much blood has been shed for you our country for our freedom. ? god bless america ? ? my home sweet home ? to continue the university's president is standing by the decision tonight. he says the discussion about what the flag represents will continue. >>> ahead on fox 25 what the tv

it's more than just a symbol. >> i would die for this flag. >> i fought for this flag.ive for it. >> veterans at the rally say the school's decision is disrespectful to former and current military members. >> it is now, what, five minutes until the top of the hour. >> and counting. >> this is not how the trip was supposed to go. he set the whole place on fire. ♪ >>> one minute until the top of the hour. before we leave the house, here's what's happening. wisconsin election official also hold a news conference about a recount spearheaded by green count nominee jill stein. president-elect calling it a publicity stunt. >>> president-elect meeting with possible cabinet picks after spending thanksgiving with family in florida. >>> panic on bourbon street. nine were injured. >>> time for the good, the bad and the ugly. >>> meet polly, the rescue goat. suffers from anxiety. but she's living the good loy thanks to this duck costume. she stopped crying as soon as the outfit goes on. looks like me. >>> next the bad. ed sheer han flashed by british princess beatrice. >>> the ugly.

and then then see things will flag burning and flags being flown at half-mast and there is a huge portionlike this. >> most of the country doesn't like it. >> and they're not getting their views represented very well, so he can cut out the gatekeeper. specific drepirectly to them. he has no incentive to stop tweeting. >> and on this issue of flag burning, there is one person who is a friend of mine member of congress, still is a member in the senate now, and he made a case and he said, you know, he's a liberal, but he said the flag is draped on the coffins of the people coming home who fought our wars and defended this country. and you have to think about in a as being a special category. maybe not yelling fire in a theater, but something about its ability to incite people. it's close to that. it really gets to the heart of your love of your country. and i know it's symbolic and under the first amendment, but there is a reason why it enrages people. >> and that would be a good way for the media to think about this in th this, that this is a bigger discussion about patriotism. >> it would

that is what this flag represents. >> our american flag, it stands for many things. >> raise your flags, everybody. rais >> reporter: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. >> stands for all the veterans around the whole nation, everybody who fought for this flag. it is more than just a symbol. >> and also stands for the freedom of expression. administrators at hamp hire college say that is what they were doing for removing the flag. fox25 spoke to the school's president jonathan lash last week. >> the symbol was raising the that disagreement of getting us away from the underlying values that we wanted to discuss. >> all started after a contentious campaign season. the flag flying on the hampshire was lowered to half-staff. later, someone burned the flag. the college then announced it would remove old glory from campus all together. >> stand up for something, but you don't need to take a flag down to do it. the flag of our united states of america. >> an uproar spiraled. group from the amherst vfw organized a demonstration at into a sea of flags waving in protest. >> i would die fo

trump wrote, nobody should be allowed to burn the american flag. if they do, there should be consequences, perhaps loss of citizenship or a year in jail. well, to repeat trump's earlier declaration of another matter, there needs to be some form of punishment. trump seems to be responding to his story about military veterans protesting a flag being burnt on the campus of hampshire college in massachusetts. they recently said burning a flag is protected by the first amendme amendment. justice antonin scalia defended their right to do it. he said, if it were up to me, i would put in jail every sandal-wearing, scruffy-bearded weirdo who burns the american flag. but i am not king. here's mitch mcconnell. >> if someone wanted to show their first amendment right, i would be afraid for their safety, but we'll protect our first amendment. >> to be clear, you don't like it, as weav've said, but you believe it's protected by the first amendment. >> that's what the court has said. >> the court has upheld that activity is a first amendment pre protected right,

look at this nation and look what this flag represents. this flag has done what is right. kaepernick and others brought the flag into this controversial position, your attitude is this. you're right, those are the ideals of the american flag. when they feel america is not living up to their best ideals from perspective of some there is need to challenge her to be better. i'm only saying that you don't extract that -- >> such a luxury to have this conversation, these students. >> where would they have it? melissa: tucker carlson was debates one of these kids, made the point median income in this country is $55,000. more than half the families in country live on less than what it costs to go to this college for one year. and they're sitting back, they have the luxury of having this conversation and not dealing with any real world problems. i wonder if they're really being prepared. >> kennedy you're a mom. this school costs $62,000. speaking of incomes, speaking of costs, what message does it send to parent and their kids there? kennedy: it is ridiculous. interesting a lot o

so can you burn the american flag? in short...the "the supreme court settled this question back in 1989 in texas vs. johnson." gary johnson burned a flag outside of the republican national convention to protest ronald raegans policies. he was arrested and charge... but appealed. the supreme court ruled in his favor stating his acts were symbolic speech that are protected by the first amendment. "in america you have the first amendment right to be able to say anything and make a fool of yourself

today, it's flag burners.ing throwing hem into jail, even stripping them of their u.s. citizenship. even though the supreme court ruled that burning a flag is constitutional under the first amendment. it's a case free speech. before that, it was the cast of hamilton. mr. trump thinks the actors were rude and out of line when they spoke to mike pence from the stage. and then there's "the new york times." mr. trump called the paper not nice when he thought the terms of the meeting had changed. some say these tweets don't matter and journalists shouldn't pay any attention to them but this morning a different take from "the washington post." this is the headline. why we can't and shouldn't ignore donald trump's tweets. the article argues the president comes with the so-called bully pulpit. everything he says reverberates. i'm joined by dylan buyiers, democratic strategist, cnn political commentator maria c cardona. and anthony, sky bridge international. welcome to all of you. thee anthony, some people do wonder wh

. - as you're about to see a state flag can have a lot to say. here's flag facts. (fast drum music) - in september, 1783, american colonists and members of the british parliament signed the treaty of paris. officially ending the revolutionary war. part of that treaty granted a parcel of land to the united states known as the northwest territory. that territory would become ohio. in 1803, ohio was admitted as our seventeenth state. but it existed without a state flag came up with a most unusual design. - the ohio flag is the only state flag out of the fifty that is not a rectangle. it's a swallowtail flag that we usually see on a boat. what it is, is it's a pennant, but it comes to two points. and they chose that to be distinct. they wanted ohio to look different from all the other state flags and they certainly achieved that. they chose to use the red, white and blue of the american flag. but they also achieved simplicity by putting the letter o in the canton of the flag. and the letter o has two meanings to people in ohio. it's o for ohio. but also, it's the bucke

shamshire college's president released a same announcing neither the american flag nor any flag will be flown on campus. this comes after the school received harsh credit system over the flag that was' burned. >> it's a disrespect. so that shouldn't have happened in the first place. >> reporter: following the presidential election the campus flag was lowered to half-staff which offended veterans and community members then someone set it veterans day. many found it to be disrespectful. >> they can be upset but i mean it's a little -- they don't have a lot to worry about. they're going to a pretty nice is and i'm sure things are good for them so they need to show it a different way. >> reporter: for more than a decade there was debate about flying commemorative flags on 9/11 in the center of amherst. the excellent board voted to fly the flags annually. a student said the flag at >> to be hobbest the flag shouldn't have been lowered in the first place because that just shows outright intolerance for what happened. >> reporter: the president said the catch puss will continue to consult a

but we're united by the american flag. >> and you can have those discussions with the flag raising.es. >> that's our position. and if it wasn't for the sacrifice of our service members or veterans, we wouldn't be having this discussion. adam: that's what, i think, you know, president-elect trump has tweeted today the courts clearly wouldn't allow it, but that people who burn the flag should lose citizenship or spend a year in jail. i think most of us find burning the flag reprehensible. i won't go into what mr. trump is proposing, but the irony is people that burn the flag can do so because of people like you and my father and veterans who put their lives on the line to give us freedom. >> that's it. that is the irony. obviously, i don't think there's anything more despicable, morally repugnant than burning the american flag, but the fact remains that two u.s. supreme court opinions have told us it is okay. we're a nation of laws, not men or women, so it is what it is. adam: let me ask you this, because i was reading not only your protests -- it's hamilton college -- >> hampshire co