if i might, i have recourse to the wisdom of flannery o'connor and rely on her experience, she bemoan the act that she says today the world is going through something like a dark night of the soul. the world in its increasingly secular condition is losing its capacity to seeto see the presence of god, stirrings of grace as well as conversion experiences. >> hold that thought and we will take a brief break. we'll be back again shortly with our guest to talk about faith, fiction, and film. >>> hello and welcome back. we are talking with dr. margaret turik and talking about evangelizing and that is not only preaching the christian message but seeing the christian truth and finding unexpected ways in which to see it. you mentioned flannery o'connor and her encapsulation of vocation as a writer. >> she had said at one point that the primary gift that she needed as a catholic writer was the gift of prophetic vision. it is vision, a capacity to see and to see prophetically by which she meant not the capacity to read the future but the capacity to see what is hidden. again, for her, it's prim