is likely that you will get a top-down view on a flatscreen, rendered separately from the virtual reality experience. we are exciting about that -- excited about that. anyway there is gaming, we think twitch can be. >> the thing i'm thinking is, the consuls we had out today are struggling with getting 60 frames per second at 1080 p. dealing with broadcasting and stream and maybe virtual-reality, are those systems ready to accommodate rendering separately of you that is optimal for outside perspective? >> knows. the new generation consuls work really well for that kind of stuff. they had true multicasting built-in, they have no trouble playing a game and streaming into twitch. i don't think there is a problem there, actually. the next generation is really prepared for streaming. >> with that said, going back to virtual-reality and that experience, you talked about rendering separately. is that something with mobile and the are you have to reach out to developers? saying, let's integrate our technology and find ways to provide twitch experience -- technology?\ >> one is a viewing experience