because they were forced to, or so reasoned fleisher.e, why did she tell police christopher talked about killing his parents. >> they eventually tell her, if you don't tell us what we want to know, you're going to be arrested in this murder conspiracy. and what does she do? she tells them what they want to know. >> if you would please have a seat over here. >> in fact, the defense got juliet to admit they wouldn't have that if they didn't threaten her. >> they told me that if they didn't hear what they wanted to hear, they were going to arrest me instead. they threw my purse across the room, they slammed their hands on the desks. >> did they tell you it was going to be first degree murder? >> they told me they were going to arrest me for murder. >> and you eventually told them what they wanted to hear. >> after 13 hours, yes. >> before christopher were arrested, the two planned a wedding and honeymoon in samoa, of all places, which begged the question. >> if he was going to take the lives of his parents, why would you stay with him and w

joining me is ari fleisher.ic strategist who has plenty of time working the white house press room. he is president obama's former deputy press secretary. how much does it surprise you. is herman cain really taking off to the top of the pack? should romney be concerned? >> i think it shows how fluid and open the race is. i have been saying no one has a firm foundation under them and i think that what the poll is showing. my advice is read political polls the way you look at the stock market. dock look at it every day, once a month because it is way too volatile and open on the republican side. but good for herman cain. he's really caught on. >> good for herman cain. he has caught on. bill makes an important part, number one it is early and number two these are national polls. we will get to new hampshire 80 days from now when the obama campaign looks at this, from the democratic perspective, do you like the volatility? do you think it helps you? >> what is interesting is the lack of volatility there's been for m

join him at ari fleisher on twitter.o john king, host of "john king, usa," all with us here as well. gloria what did you make of tonight? >> it was kind of an angry debate, anderson. these were -- remember ronald reagan's 11th commandment, thou shall not speak ill of another republican. tonight, we he all expected herman cain to be on the hot seat, i must say, mitt romney really got it from rick perry and also from rick santorum. he was attacked for having no credibility by santorum on health care, attacked for being a hypocrite on immigration by rick perry. perry clearly knew that he had to turn in a sharp debate performance. he clearly had a lot more energy during this debate. but i'm not quite sure he did what he came to do, which was to kind of land blows, really, against mitt romney. >> ari fleisher, you have watched a lot of these debate what did you make of it? >> the first stage are over, we don't have another for a month. after the half-dozen debates, what happened in the republican field is mitt romney is in fi

i don't see anything really change in that dynamic. >> ari fleisher, are you holding onto an apple andn orange? >> anderson -- >> i'm hungry. >> here is an an apple and an orange, i'm a tax wonk and i loft debate about taxes, i want to hear more policy debates about taxes. >> romney stuffed him on that stuffed perry -- cain on. >> that get him on it. he said do you -- do you add it on to -- do you add it on top of a state sales tax? >> but you are also hearing from cain get rid of the current code and that's what people are responding to also. so this is -- if you are going to have a huge change like this on taxes -- >> tax on top of a tax also. >> they do but it is both. >> i think it is the time he uses when he talk bus the way we currently pay for things, there is something to that that he needs to explain, the burden is on him to explain. said i'm ready to sell it to the american people, he needs to do that, to see whether it can hold up. it isn't really additive, but what the real number is isn't quite clear. apples and oranges, you are right, didn't make that case. >> many, many

ari fleisher calls the move about it obama administration an interesting new development.n. >> when you're a president and you can't run on what you've done, you attack anybody you can find. and i think they're trying to undermine whoever the eventual nominee is going to be. >> actually recall not right about this time in 2003 when president bush was running for re-election, they telegraphed a strategy in which they would go after the democratic nominee. >> oh, so which line of thought do we believe, tim farley? >> well, you know, this is sort of like watching that movie "war games." at the end a different strategy pops up on the screen and there is destruction in either case. i don't think that will happen here. look, this is a long boxing match. it's anyone who watches boxing will tell you, it's the jabs and body blows that work until you get to eventual lit knockout punch. it does seem that this does signal, if i could use that analogy and beat it to death, that they're trying -- that their telegraphing their punches. they think that mitt romney is the one to beat. they

bush spokesman, ari flooish ari fleisher, dana and gloria borger. you never thought she was going to run? >> i didn't. i don't know anybody that thought she would. it's a good thing for the republican field. it removes what would have been an element of real chaos in the party and presidential race. but anderson i do want to say one thing. sarah pail pen was the one and only reason john mccain ever surged to a lead over barack obama which he it did when he announced sarah palin. she wasn't able to sustain. i think she crumbled under the media glare and scrutiny. she accomplished something tremendous in 2008 for a while. she's unshackled and free. i think we're all better that way. >> ed, had she run and not done well, it would have been devastating for her status as a book seller, as a celebrity. this allows her to maintain that statuses. >> for a while. i mean, obviously she's still a big draw. she's our personality like a movie star. she can go raise a lot of money for candidates. no one will sit her down at the strategy table and say, gee, what s

bush spokesman ari fleisher, gloria borger ed rollinsed and dana bash.o run? >> i never did. i don't know anyone who really thought she would get in. now she's not, it's a good thing for the republican field. it removes what would have been an element of real chaos in the republican party and in this presidential race. but anderson i do want to say one thing. sarah palin was the one and a only reason john mccain ever surged to a lead over barack obama which he it did when he announced sarah palin. she wasn't able to sustain. i think she crumbled under the media glare and scrutiny. she accomplished something tremendous in 2008 for a while. now she's unshackled and free. i think we're all better that way, frankly. >> ed, had she run and not done well, it would have been devastating for her status as a book seller, as a celebrity. this allows her to maintain that status. >> for a while. i mean, obviously she's still a big draw. she's our personality like a movie star. she can go raise a lot of money for candidates. no one is going to sit her down at the str

happen and you look at it on the perspective of the right, here i am in austin but when you hear eric fleisher from white house podiums a people have to be careful when they say, you are not allowed to say you have differences about american foreign policy in terms of intervention in iraq, you are being told to shut up. >> i understand the argument. there's one thing in the front of the book where your dedication is dedicated to several groups including fox news, the dedication says standing tall in the face of speaking the truth is the heart of great journalism. there are people out there who wonder how fox news fits into that. your friends at fox news stood by you. stood by you. i get that. but while should the rest of us be grateful to fox news? don't they economize in some way exactly the overheated political huckster reason you are condemning? >> no. there are so many people who would point to hannity, just obama bashing but the fact is if you watch most of the news during the day you are getting new is done by first class journalists. i think the problem would be people would say despite