so i'd fliek jlike for jerry to just a minute. >> first of all i'd like to thank the archives foundation for bringing us here to help honor the vietnam veterans. back in 1989, 16 pilots gathered in greensberro, north carolina to see if there was an interest inputting together a local organization,helicopter pilots could get together, tell war stories and i say there's two things they don't do, they don't drink beer and they don't tell war stories. >> both of them are lying. >> and they don't lie. >> we started off in the 16 people at about 9:00 in the morning. and with two cases of beer, three dozen krispy kreme doughnuts we had set up to be incorporated. luckily we a lawyer present. three months later we -- after some people decided we needed a helicopter to talk about, we decided we would go ahead and try to get a helicopter. this took three years to get our first aircraft. after we put this thing together and got it presentable, we went to wilmington, north carolina to do a araid. this was purely selfish on their part because we wanted to ride in the parade. we got there, we did the p