a terrorist organization a revolution urbanisation accomplish certain ization whatever organized florent of selective elements you might be they won't. know. and the people that you pick up that are innocence yes you'll. the tear them to pieces you store them you'll ruin them. i think that a few of the people that passed passed through my hands and interrogated did have intelligence but most of the vast majority of the people that i dealt with were just being picked up because they were males of military age and they were just get swept up and in these raids i don't think torture is always being used as a method to gain information or or confessions it's often just being used out of it out of anger and fear. here in the united states we have this picture of torture as something that is done by the lonely person the lonely the man who does it more in sorrow than in anger because he is absolutely forced to because so many lives depend on it is willing to take the moral stain and the moral pain on him and in order to save all these people there was always this anxiety in american politics w