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the george floyd act is pending in the congress right now. the house passed it. dim prospectsnate. what would it do? national legislation. banning choke holds. no knock warrants, creating a national registry for police misconduct, mandates the use of deadly force as a last resort, bans racial and religious profiling. here's a big hangup. it would overhaul qualified immunity laws, providing protection to police forces and police officers. a lot of objections to that. the legislation tries to make its way through. just want to come back to these pictures here at the beginning, the taledo video released by chicago police yesterday on the mind of the white house press secretary a short time ago when she said the president very much wants to sign that george floyd policing act. >> those of us who did watch that video, it is certainly chilling and a reminder that across the country there are far too many communities where there is violence that is impacting -- that too often in this country law enforcement uses unnecessary force, too often resulting in the death of black and brown a

floyd bill. where does that stand in the prospects of that pushing through? >> you know, that is something they talked a lot about. you might remember about ten months ago in june of last year, there was an effort to move a piece of legislation in his name through congress. there was criticism in the senate here they moved it through the house. there were other things in the senate that democrats didn't like. the republicans argued that the republicans filibustered it and couldn't have passed but the republican bill and the past co. there is pressure on now on the shoulders of congressional democrats because they control the house, the senate, in the white house. the base the same problem especially when it gets in the political realm because i have to be able to overcome the filibuster. they have to get 60 votes. they do have control of the senate but guess what, you have to have 51 votes they are just to pass the bill. not everybody sees things together. they are down for the moment to two votes in the house of representatives so the turning rate -- is pret

i don't see any prospect that republicans will be on board for the george floyd act. >> it's interestingu're talking about the states. california and new york are losing seats. that is not a surprising phenomenon to me. those are expensive states. people are moving away from them. but colorado, oregon, montana, north carolina, florida all picking up seats. is that what you mean by who is it, though? >> right. they're growing because of what population within those states. we presume if there is a shift toward the south, in particular, it's to the benefit of republicans. nothing says that the seat that gets added in certain of those states is necessarily going to be a republican state. not if they do it fairly. cook political report, and i trust their judgment, david wasserman et al say that the pen will be in the hands of 87 that control republican districts, 75 whom control democratic districts, and the rest will be some type of commission. one other observation, if i can quickly make this. like you i'm very much attuned to the issue of gerrymandering. i think it's a very serious proble

actions that were a substantial cause of george floyd's death and it means on closing argument for the defense we will hear a lot more about the prospect of superseding causes, carbon monoxide poisoning and drug use, and all superseded what officer chauvin had done and were the substantial cause of george floyd's death. >> and in doing that, does that make it -- it makes it important, obviously, for the defense to try it on make that case, but we know that the prosecution will then have another opportunity to rebutt the closing argument. they get the final word. >> that's true. the prosecution has a final opportunity to rebutt. again, they don't want to press this too long. they have a jury that's eager to get in and deliberate and have this be over. so they're going to be, i think, gauging what's the most effective use of that time on rebuttal and to reiterate the points they've made that they have proven their case beyond a reasonable doubt and officer chauvin is the cause of george floyd's death and his use of force is excessive under the circumstances. >> paul butler, from your extensive experience teaching law, what to expect more

prospects are for passing that law? i was struck today to hear you talk about the george floyd justice in policing act, to hear attorney general ellison, in minnesota, talk about it in his remarks, vice president harris from the white house talk about not only her support for that law but its necessity and the fact she had a hand in writing it. the president himself jumping with both feet hard saying that needs to happen, that that must pass. to take all this emotion in this what feels like momentum, what feels like a moment today in this country, and to push hard, that that is the right next step, made me feel different about the prospect of that passing today than i did before. i know you are a student of politics as much as you are of anything else. do you feel like the political reality is that it could pass? >> i do, because i think reality has to adjust to new realities. there is a new reality tonight. people feel that this can happen and people are going to, in my opinion, continue now to pressure the senate. i remember you said i am a student. when i was a kid just joining the movement in the north, people didn

prospects are for passing that law? i was struck today to hear you talk about the george floyd justice and policing act, to talk attorneyk about it in his remarks, to hear vice president harris talk about it not only her support but the necessity and that she had a right in writing it. we heard the president himself jump in with both feet saying that that needs to happen and that that must pass, to take all of this emotion in what's feels like momentum, which feels like a moment in this country and to push hard that that is the right next step, it made me feel different about the prospect of that passing today than i did before. i know your student of politics as march as you are of anything else, do you think like the political reality is that it could pass? >> i do because i think that reality has to adjust to new realities and there's a new reality tonight. people feel like this can happen. people are going to in my opinion continued to fight. i remember you said that i was a student, when i was a kid just joining the movement in the north, people did not feel you can get avoiding rights act, president lyndon johnson

floyd was actually put into the ambulance from the scene in your opinion as a cardiologist what would have been the prospects of resuscitating him at that point? >> objection, calls for speculation. >> overruled, you may give an opinion if you have one. >> so at that point i think the chance of meaningful survival unfortunately was very low because i count the number of minutes that he was on the ground pulseless without any cpr, and by the time the paramedics rushed in to get him onto the stretcher into the back of the ambulance, at that point a lot of time had passed. i give tremendous credit to the efforts of the paramedics and the doctors and nurses in the emergency room. i mean, they worked on foreign minister -- him for what seemed -- >> objection, nonresponsive. >> sustained. >> do you have an opinion to a reasonable degree of medical certainty as to whether mr. floyd would have lived if not for the 9:29 of subdual and restraint? objection. >> overruled, if you have an opinion. >> let me finish my question for you, dr. rich. do you have an opinion as to whether george floyd one of lived in not for mr.

floyd was put into the ambulance from the scene, in your opinion as a cardiologist, what would have been the prospects of resuscitating him at that point? >> objection. >> overruled. you may give an opinion if you have one. >> so at that point i think the chance for meaningful survival, unfortunately, was very low because i counted the number of minutes that he was on the ground pulseless without any cpr and by the time the paramedics rushed in to get him and to get him on to the stretcher and to the back of the ambulance at that point a lot of time had passed. i give tremendous credit to the efforts of the paramedics and the doctors and nurses in the emergency room. they worked on him for what seemed -- >> sustained. this is nonresponsive. >> dr. rich, do you have a degree of medical certainty that mr. floyd would have lived if not for the 9:29 of the subdual restraint -- >> objection. >> overruled, if you have an opinion. >> i'll finish my question for you, dr. rich. do you have an opinion as to whether george floyd would have lived if not for the subdural restraint if not for the 9:29 on the ground

nationwide protests that followed george floyd's killing, whether or not we get any substantive, lasting, big-deal reform, that remains to be seen. what do you think the prospects are? 50/50? 25/75? in the senate, do you really think the republicans are going to help out with this in the end? but i'll tell you, when they want to do stuff, they get it done. where republicans are in control around the country, they have taken action already. this week, lightning-fast, to make it, among other things, a crime to protest when things like this happen. to make it not a crime to kill you while you are protesting something like this happening. man, what a time we are in. we've got more on that specifically and much more on this busy news day ahead this hour. stay with us. ve to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! all good tonight, i'll be eating fried avocado tacos. [doorbell rings] [doorbell rings] thank you. ooo... you gonna eat that at lesliepalooza? what? who's coming to that? everyone's coming, everybody. you, her, me, all of us. >>> after yesterday's guilty verdicts in the chauvin trial, the

protests that followed george floyd's killing, whether or not we get any substantive, lasting, big-deal c reform, that remains to be seen. what do you think the prospects are? 50/50? 25/75? in the senate, do you really think the republicans are going to help out with this in the end?5? but i'll tell you, when they th want to do stuff, they get it done. where republicans are in control around the country, they have taken action already. this week, lightning-fast, to make it, among other things, a crime to protest when things like this happen. to make it not a crime to kill t you while you are protesting something like this happening. man, what a time we are in. we've got more on that specifically and much more on this busy news day ahead this hour. stay with us.mo >>> after yesterday's guilty verdicts in the chauvin trial, the family of george floyd came out to speak to the press. and one after the other, it was interesting, they expressed gratitude to all those who made the verdicts possible, the prosecutors who presented the case, the people who supported them throughout the last year, and in particular they all thanked americans who protested, people

floyd was actually put into the andamans from the scene, in your opinion as a cardiologist what would've been the prospect of associating him at that point? [inaudible] >> overruled. you may give an opinion if you have one. >> so at that point i think the chance of meaningful survival unfortunately was very low because i counted the number of minutes that he was on the ground pulseless without any cpr. and by the time the paramedics rushed in to give him and to get onto the stretcher into the back of the ambulance at that point a lot of time had passed. i give tremendous credit to the efforts of the paramedics and doctors and nurses in the emergency room. i mean, they work on him for -- >> objection. >> sustained. this is nonresponsive. >> dr. rich, do you have an opinion to a reasonable degree of medical certainty as to whether this ploy would have led if not for the nine minutes and 29 seconds of subdual and restraint -- >> objection argumentative. >> overrule. if you have an opinion. >> let me finish my question for you, dr. rich. do you have an opinion as to whether george floyd would've lived if not

floyd was put into the ambulance at the scene, in your opinion is a cardiologist, what would have been the prospect of resuscitating him at that point? >> at that point meaningful survival was unfortunately very low. i counted the number of minutes he was on the ground pulseless without any cpr. by the time the paramedics rushed in to get him on the stretcher and in the back of the ambulance, at that point a lot of time had passed. i give tremendous credit to the efforts of the paramedics and doctors and nurses in the emergency room. >> sustained. nonresponsive. >> do you have an opinion to a reasonable degree of medical certainty whether mr. floyd would have lived if not for the nine minutes 29 seconds of restraint. >> objection. >> overruled. >> you have an opinion as if george floyd would have lived if not for mr. chauvin restraint for the nine minutes 29 seconds on the ground? >> yes sir. >> i believe he would have lived. >> last question. do you have an opinion if a completely healthy george floyd, any healthy human being would have survived the restraint mr. floyd suffered nine minutes 29 sec

floyd, could you pinpoint the source? >> i don't think i can pinpoint a because given that he got cpr, there are multiple explanations for his pulmonary situation. >> what about the prospects of a pulmonary embolism? what is a pulmonary embolism? >> that is when you have a clot forming another part of your body, most commonly in the pelvis although it can warm and other places and it breaks up and it goes straight to the lungs because that is where your heart pumps the blood as it returns to the body. a massive embolism can be almost fatal, and i mean that blocks the artery that goes to the longs, smaller can go into smaller branches of the longs and sometimes completely asymptomatic and sometimes they are symptomatic and sometimes they can be life-threatening if the person has an underlying condition, we do always look for this in the autopsy. >> did you see any pulmonary emboli in the case of george floyd? >> no, he did not have any pulmonary emboli. >> let's talk about that toxicology. i think it's called a toxicology screen. can you tell the jury what is a toxicology screening? >> we actually determine the expanded panel because the laboratory we use, that is the termi

floyd's death. as long as the debate is going on, yesterday was the most optimistic i have seen the involved lawmakers be about the prospect of getting something through to president biden. >> the most optimistic, i will take it. thank you, garrett haake. >>> let's get smarter on policing and bring in a man who knows a ton about it in this country, chief frederick alexander. he served as police chief for dekalb county, georgia. he was president of the national organization of black law enforcement executives, and member of president obama's task force on 21st century policing. chief, i'm so glad you're here. you're the person we want to help us on this. what should the federal government be doing in terms of setting standards for training, hiring and basically how police do their jobs on a day-to-day basis? >> certainly what needs to happen here, stephanie, both sides of the aisle, both democrats and republicans, need to role model and demonstrate to the rest of this country a willingness to an attempt to do something in this very difficult time that we're in. this operation between philosophies of how they feel about this

floyd was put into the ambulance from the scene, in your opinion as a cardiologist what would have been the prospects of resuscitating him at that point? >> you may give an opinion if you have one. >> at that point i think the chance of meaningful survival unfortunately was very low because i counted the number of minutes that he was on the ground pulseless without any cpr and by the time the paramedics rushed in to get him to get him onto the structure and in the back of the ambulance, at that point a lot of time had passed. i would give tremendous credit to the efforts of the paramedics, doctors and nurses in the emergency room and they worked on him with him and this was nonresponsive. >> doctor rich, do you have opinion to reasonably agree with medical certainty as to whether mr. floyd would have lived if not for the nine minutes and 29 seconds of the restraint. >> objective, argumentative. >> overruled if you have an opinion. >> let me finish my question for you, doctor rich. do have an opinion as to whether george floyd would have lived if not for mr. chauvin subdued restraint for nine minutes

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floyd's perspective, okay? it's not what a reasonable victim would do. you don't look at it from the bystander's perspective. you don't look at it from the defendant's perspective, either. you look at it from the prospective of a reasonable officer. the evidence in this case has shown over and over that the defendant is not that officer. because he did not act as a reasonable officer would. remember charles mcmillan? well, the defendant explained his actions. he explained the basis of his actions to charles mcmillan. you recall that? here is what he said. >> he is probably on something >> that was his justification for using this that was his justification for using this level of force. he is a big guy, a sizable guy, he has to be on something and we have to control him. his two justifications, george floyd was big and that he might be on something. you know the standards, you've heard of the standards many times, you know the difference between a risk and a threat. officers are authorized to use force to respond to a threat. they are not authorized to use force to respond to risk. anybody poses a potential risk. big, small, in between, everybody is a risk. not everybody is a threat. the act of being larg

prospective jurors. before this happened they knew that there had been protests in the wake of george floyd's death, so thatying that there were suddenly protests in the wake of a verdict in some case, and that's where the judge drew the line. remember, i think some people presume that juries are sequestered far more often than they are. it's very, very rare to sequester a jury, and it creates its own set of problems and issues, et cetera, so i wasn't surprised that the judge refused that request. >> okay, channa, let's talk about the prosecution's case, just about to wrap it up. how did they do? >> i think they laid a very solid foundation. they brought in someone to address every possible area that jurors would have had questions about, so i think they've laid a solid case for their case in chief. >> and, dan, let's get into that a little more. they pretty much demonstrated that force was excessive right there. the big question is going to be cause of death. >> yeah, exactly. i think this is actually a stronger case than many might have even expected coming into this. when it comes to the reasonableness f