>> ken barnes, floyd stockton, james roden, pinetti and of course brian wells. >> these are just namesu don't know who these players are? >> none. >> but kelly did know one of the names, brian wells, the pizza delivery man who had been blown up and kelly said marjorie told her that wells was no innocent victim, but rather part of the conspiracy. that is, if you can believe a snitch. as for the others ken barnes of course, was the crack dealer who was marjorie's fishing body. floyd stockton was rothstein's old friend and was living in rothstein's house at the time of the bombing. marjorie said jim roden her boyfriend was in on the plot, too, but she killed him when he got cold feet and ended up ironically in a freezer. >> he was going to turn her in and he didn't want to be the get away driver, he didn't want any part of it. he wanted out. >> and that's marjorie telling you that. >> yes. >> so roden is dead because -- >> yes. >> -- he didn't want to be in this thing. >> without a doubt. without a doubt. >> and then there was the other pizza delivery guy, robert pinetti. >> pinetti you m