. >> fofor mo, we spoke to our door to well arts editor about whether or not germination close the exhibition in beijing. >> well, i think was in the exhibition is not a solution. outspoken critics, that is the case, and that is what is going on at the moment, from politics, across the world. there is a lot going on in front of chinese embassies worldwide. things like that helped to keep ai weiwei and all the literati, to keep them in the public perception worldwide, and that is what is important, to give them feeling that there is solidarity and that we do not forget them. that is the best we can do. massive pressure never works in beijing. they will not change their experience. -- their position. that is our experience from anyone who has to do with china, so i think that is the best we can do. >> was it wrong for the german government to mix culture and politics, and it backfire? >> no, i do not think so. culture and politics can work well together in foreign politics. it is so-called soft power. in the special case, i think many things have been done wrong. the whole exhibition of the enl