>> you would have to ask the state department about how they responded to foia requests.ould, again, point you to the fact that -- i mean, all you have to do is read it, ed, right? top line points, goals, that kind of stuff. the only mention of benghazi in the e-mail is a question about what's your response to a story by the dependent newspaper in the u.k. that says we have intelligence -- we had intelligence 48 hours in advance of the attack that was ignored. not aware of any actionable intelligence, was the answer. and then what does it do, it cuts and pastes the same line from the cia talking points that, again, was what ambassador rice used. >> it's not about benghazi, why turn it over in a benghazi suit? it seems -- >> you would have to ask the state department about their process for responding to foia requests. again, you can just read it and then decide for yourself as many people have now said and written. like this is a conspiracy theory in search of a conspiracy -- >> some group comes in and says we want benghazi documents, the administration says this is not a

the foia request was about been gatsy. and there is a question why they weren't released in the congressional subpoenas and why it took a foia request an outside activist group to get this out. it's just not true. it's not believable. >> how many more emails are out there? you have to think now there are emails that reacted to susan rice's appearances and there was communication after that and whether it worked, and on and on and on. the hearing starts in 25 minutes. martha? martha: there is lots of reaction to all of this from republicans who have been pushing republicans for answers since the night of the attack and they are not too happy. senator land i graham said this. >> i think it many an insult to the intelligence of the american people and disservice and disrespect to those who sacrificed their lives in service to their country to suggest the goals in the email had nothing to do with four dead americans is offensive. martha: we'll go live to the hill as soon as that hearing gets underway this morning. we are told

but i still have foias outstanding at the clinton library, still have foias at the george bush library in texas and the george w. bush library just opened so i didn't have the opportunity to look at anything in there, and obama is in office. >> host: was there a point in time where the pictures started to -- or the -- started to sharpen in terms of the nature of some of these relationships, where it really -- where you started to realize, wow, this actually goes deeper than perhaps either yourself as well as the public would have imagined, or might even still imagine? >> guest: yeah. because i didn't really start at the beginning of the presidents, i kind of worked more on geography and flight patterns. i was doing a little jumping back and forth. so for example i would to the lbj library and see his relationship with sidney wineberg, the chairman of goldman sachs at the tomorrow, and then be at the fdr larry and see how they had been closed friends because of something lbj said to sidney wineberg, we were both fdr men, so good to have you on me time again. and then when i went to the

they got more than when congress asked because there's a criminal offense involved if you lie to a foia request. but apparently not to congress. >> i think this investigation is going to obviously go forward. the reason why the democrats are not going to choose to participate right now is they understand the context of this is a political witch hunt. they're out to embarrass secretary clinton who will likely run for president. this is what it's about. >> what about the other story? there's a big development in the house last night. more than two dozen democrats joined with house republicans calling for an investigation into the irs scandal. so earlier this year, president obama saying there wasn't, quote, a smidgen of corruption. the white house claiming the irs's targeting of conservative nonprofits a phony scandal. but the house ways and means committee finding new details. >> the committee uncovered new information indicating that after groups provided the information to the irs, nearly one in ten donors were subject to audi. any abuse of discretion in audit selection must be identif

>> you would have to ask the state department about how they responded to foia requests. i would again point you to the fact -- all you have to do is read it, ed, right? >> all you have to do is read it. well, we've read that e-mail from ben rhodes. and, yes, to jay carney's point, it was about broader stuff about the violence in the mideast, cairo and elsewhere. but it also included benghazi. in fact, in one of my follow-ups when i pressed jay carney, he quoted from the e-mail and said, here's the section on benghazi which was in the e-mail. so that is why you have republicans like john mccain out today directly using the word "cover-up" saying, why wasn't this turned over sooner. >> ed, good questioning there. but it wasn't just you. fox has been out in front of this story from the get-go. but do you feel like there's a change in the briefing room amongst reporters? >> you're starting to see more reporters press on this issue, certainly there were questions yesterday and today from john carl of abc news, major garrett of cbs as well as jim acosta from cnn who started of

this was a foia thing, but it makes the white house once again play defense. this past january, some intelligence suggested the attacks were put together in short order. relatively spontaneous, following that day's violent protest in cairo against an inflammatory video. this is just what susan rice said from cairo. in that case probably caused by the anger over the video. we don't know what we don't know over benghazi. in the light that's been shown, you just admitted that this rolling effect. >> calling the white house scum bags, theying they lies. >> look, look. let me finish my point. look, i'm not into the name calling crazy. we don't need to name call here. >> but they're name calling. they're saying it's a cover-up. >> michael, he's what some of yours are saying opinion the rhodes e-mail has set up a freakout. as i mentioned lindsey graham coined a phrase you don't normally hear from a senator. >> some guy said on the left the only reason i cared about this was because i've got six tea party opponents. well, if that's true, i'm the biggest scum bag in am

>> you would have to ask state department about their process for responding to foia requests.-- you you can just read it and then decide for yourself as many people have now said and written like this is a conspiracy theory -- >> group comes in and says we want benghazi documents. the administration says this is not a benghazi document so we are not turning it over. >> i don't know. like this is a state department foia requests. >> on 9/12 you were asked about benghazi and whether it's premeditated you said it's quote too early for us to make that judgment. i know this is being investigated. we are working with the libyan government to investigate the incident. you were being cautious, investigation here. that's 9/12. enwoo why then on 9/14 is ben rhodes writing email that is making judgments this was inspired by a video why is it that we just don't know we. >> do you need a copy of the cia talking points? read them out. >> only thing that refers to benghazi is the cut and paste from the talking points which much to your disappointment and your boss' disappointment turned out

>> well, jon, this was the result of a foia request by "the washington times," the specific story you're talking about in regards to when the obama transition team was briefed about the problems at the va. the other scandals that have, the allegations have come up for at least 11 states now. and investigations are ongoing. so this is snowballing as you have lawmakers on both sides of the aisle calling for more in depth investigations and bringing in the fbi. jon: there is a former member of the va staff, high level staffer, who had this to say to congress a few weeks ago when some of these allegations first came up. i want to play you for this now. >> to date, we found no evidence of a secret list, and we have found no patient who is have died because they have been on a wait list. >> that was dr. robert petzel, undersecretary for veterans affairs. he said at the time we haven't found any evidence of secret lists. we haven't found any evidence that people died waiting for care. well, now as of friday afternoon, he is officially out, actually ahead of his resignation he got pushed out of

the release this week only because of a foia request by judicial watch. it was a tipping point for house speaker john boehner. darrell issa of the house oversight committee is subpoenaing secretary of state john kerry to testify later this month on whether there are other unreleased documents. >> we're still not getting documents as we have requested. we've turned all these things over as far as the subpoena. and we're asking them to turn over the documents that we have requested. these things are trickling out, we're asking the simple question, when will we get all of the documents? he obviously wasn't in the lead when all this occurred. secretary clinton was. but now he has the responsibility to make sure his state department is releasing all the documents we have requested. >> marie harf said yesterday there are no unreleased documents and that the entire exercise is a fishing expedition. >> what the republicans allege that there was attempts by this administration to cover up or spin what happened is 100% false. >> a fox news poll shows that by a marg

first of all, the foia request by judicial watch was for the benghazi e-mails.it was for the benghazi e-mails. how can this not be about the benghazi e-mails? ben rhodes sent an e-mail with two key talking points about propping up the president's policy and about driving the youtube video. he is in the white house inner circle. he is not some state department employee. he is in there with the president and it's sent to jay carney. it's sent to dan pfeiffer. it's sent to david plouffe. this is clearly what it was. it was to propagate a lie. by the way, no other americans that day were under attack anywhere on 9/11. so that's all a lie. >> no, no. there is a videotape. they've had a videotape of this, so we're told. and i've been told by people who say they saw it. here is what i want to know. tell me how this -- now that we know they say they had nothing to do with the talking points and now it's been exposed they do, are you going to go along with the jay carney lie? you don't believe that crap, do you? no, no, that's a yes or no. >> let me just say this. what c

as to whether or not congress would have received these documents absence judicial watch's foea -- foia request. the two sets of documents are incredibly similar and shockingly some of the documents received by the committee are more redacted than those received by judicial watch. well, i get that. that's because under foia, there a criminal statute attached to that which those lawyers preparing these documents knew they could be criminally held libal. mr. speaker. the bottom line to this is, this administration has not respected the united states congress. did not respect the committees that were asking for this information, and thereto, make sure that they made their job even more difficult. these roadblocks, i believe, serve as two important points for us to remember that the speaker of the house of representatives did not choose to be where we are today, but rather it was this administration through its deliberate attempt to place us exactly where we are. so, first the committee will have questions that it has to ask, and they are going to this administration to make sure that we ha

a simple foia request turned up multiple documents that the administration admits are covered by a prior congressional subpoena and, therefore, should have been disclosed months earlier. while the executive branch is obviously obliged to take all lawful information requests seriously, it is outrageous that this administration would treat a routine foia request from a private party with more care and serious attention than a lawfully issued subpoena from a coordinate branch of the federal government. i might add, a coequal branch of the federal government, the congress of the united states. madam president, i wish i could say that the obama administration's conduct in the investigationinvestigations inti attack represented an anomaly, a unique instance in an otherwise respectable record of good-faith efforts to cooperate with congressional investigations and to respect congress's legitimate authorities. unfortunately, that simply isn't the casemen case. instead, we have experienced a pattern of obstruction, repeated instances of bad faith in responding to lawful information requests and s

it takes an outside legal group that has to sue through foia to get it. >> and they ridicule chairman issa you held all these hearings and you can't find anything, it's because they redacted it. juan, i hope you read this stuff tomorrow. first of all, your defense of them is not helping them. it's actually making it worse. it's showing even people who want to defend the white house, is so confused that they can't remember the lies they told about the lies they told about the lies. you know those questions are coming to you and you know that you are on the prep call for susan rice the night before the sunday shows and you are being asked did the white house have anything to do with pushing the idea that it was a video, and you say no. but you are on these email and then they are redacted when they go to the white house counsel. that was part of a very minor thing called the u.s. attorney scandal back in 2007-2008. one of my emails got revealed. i knew it was going to be. i knew because i paid attention. they don't care enough about their reputation and i'll tell you this what they did

jeff becker, ceo of foia investing management, formally ing investment management. mr.ecker, welcome to bottom line. welcome to coming on today. your company is a top institutional-- investor of assets. where are you putting your money? >> if it is a participant retirement plan, they are putting money into fixed income assets, and more and more into target date funds, which is a one-stop shop with asset allocation. >> year to date, the dow industrials and the nasdaq are lower, but the s&p is up over 2.5%. the markets have been choppy this year, as you know. what is the outlook for equities and where are you looking to invest? overseas or here in the u.s.? >> predominantly the u.s. overall, quarter one gdp was soft. ofhave seen signs improvement in q2. obviously, housing and -- asoyment, as a pickup they pick up him as your guest was just speaking about, we think that will keep the fed accommodative. we think that will be a net positive for the equity market. >> speaking of long-term rates, that ties into fixed income. as you know, the fed will eventually have to raise i

i went back, i filed a foia with the faa to see the if there had been any deaths. in the newspapers, i tried everything i could to document that, and i couldn't. so, of course, i didn't use it. and you don't know. you could be set up. very easily by someone. >> host: well, rob and heidi have a follow-up question. >> guest: oh, dear. [laughter] >> host: how do you feel about government secrets and what edward snowden has done? >> guest: um, i believe in whistleblowers. i mean, i do think that whistleblowers perform a public service, especially when there's corruption in government or pharmaceuticals or harming people and they step forward. i'm mixed on snowden. i am mixed. i do believe that there's certain secrets that you have to keep for the security of our country, and perhaps i've changed a little bit on that since 9/11. but i don't know quite what to make on the snowden thing. parts of it, parts of his disclosures i think have gotten us into a national debate and conversation that's constructive and good. and i don't know about the rest. i'm sorry to -- i'm not

investigation, then sit on the documents, then you have to get an outside nonprofit agency to submit a foia request only to get thousands and thousands of pages of redacted and blacked out. the most quote transparent administration has turned up out to be the cement block administration. >> bob, they're looking at 26 facilities. this isn't going to go away, is it? >> no. by the way, you said the press -- look at the front page of every newspaper. it's all -- >> for how long? >> how long before the -- the republicans didn't anything about it. you can call these scandal, until you have a smoking gun, until you have proven that someone has done something wrong, i'd be careful about calling it a scandal. watergate and iran/contra was a scandal. >> why? 40 people are dead because there was a secret waiting list in arizona. that's not scandalous? >> of course it's scandalous. >> i'm not sure what you're talking about. >> what you're assuming you're saying that obama is responsible for 40 people dead. >> i never said that. he said he'll take responsibility going forward. he was going to fix things

it wasn't until the rhodes e-mail came out in the foia did we recognize the severity to the west wingboehner properly played it -- >> he wanted to see hard evidence and that's when this all happened. we'll have to see how fast it moves now. in the meantime, does the president have a p.r. problem, bernard? yesterday he came out and addressed the v.a. scandal. today he's visiting the baseball hall of fame. is that -- are the optics incorrect when we have vets dyi dying? >> it's a serious problem of mismanagement and lack of funding at the v.a. i think the president has to serve multiple audiences, and do a lot of stuff at the same time. i credit him with being very clear in the press conference yesterday saying he's going to hold people accountable. i think he recognized -- >> a lot of people are saying, about time. for 26 days he was silent on the whole thing. optics, p.r. today, tony, good or bad? >> leadership failure, bad optics, fine. but the leadership failure is the problem. and the fact that we are here at groundhog day again, another scandal or a controversy within this adminis

this comes as two stories surface from foia requests. one from the washington times says the obama-biden transition team were aware of the scandal. this is not only a data integrity issue in which the va administration reports unreliable performance data, it affects quality of care by delaying and potentially denying deserving veteran timely care. the dayton daily news with a report about the database of paid claims by the va since 2001 includes 167 in which the words delay in treatment is used in the description. the va paid out a total of $36.4 million to settle those claims either voluntarily or as part of a court action. this is the veterans who died while waiting for care. jonah goldberg, kirsten powers and charles krauthammer. these stories point to a problem that began well before the obama administration. >> well, it's obvious from the clip you showed where the president was speaking in 2009. he's already in office. he identifies exactly the problem that we're talking about right now and he says, of course, as any good liberal wi

>> this e-mail that came out as a result of a judge's ruling on a foia request by a group, a consecutivelyervatively leaning group, judicial watch. this advanced the ball, stirs things up, and takes it into the white house. how you get to the final thing that lays all of this out is really tough to see, and i think speaker boehner today by saying there will likely be a special joint committee, a special committee, rather, to investigate this, is going to be interesting. the critics charge that republicans have spent a lot of money already and time on this issue, but there are many questions that still remain. in this interview last night, we also heard and learned that the president was not in the situation room. tommy was there, and the president was not. the president have to be in the situation room? no. but that was just something we learned now 2014 as opposed to 2012. >> i don't believe we know exactly where the president was that night. we are told that he was in the white house. but other than that, we don't know. or who he was with. i believe that's accurate. is it important we do

. >> it seems to be the point that congress should start doing foia requests instead of asking for documentsovided. the administration doesn't feel like they have to provide anything or they will redact anything that's actually damning. it's kind of hard to believe that they couldn't have figured out that d.c. was involved in this. i don't think that in itself implicates the white house. they could have just put all the information out and said this wasn't just a rogue office. actually d.c. was involved in it and it was wrong and it was bad. we're sorry. the fact that they covered that up and were hiding this when it is so easily knowable being just makes it more suspicious. >> there is an email, charles from, lois lerner going into the bolo, be on the bookout. specifically tea party, patriots and other emails. lois lerner, again, factors into even these new revelations and obviously she refused to testify, took the 5th up on capitol hill. >> it gives light to the administration's claim that this had nothing to do with the election. nothing to do with targeting opponents of the administratio

order some of the ring daca shuns do not have the notations that you often see on the side of these foia documents. that is important because the state department is legally required to explain what the exemption is for blacking out that information and in a number of these emails that exemption is not stated. jenna. jenna: interesting, catherine, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: with more on this, joining us now south carolina republican senator lindsey graham. senator, you have been calling for a look into the emails. while the whole benghazi experience for a long time now it appears to be underway. give us your reaction. >> i'm very pleased. i think the past process while very sincere has been disjointed. you had three separate committees looking at different parts of benghazi not sharing information with each other. sort of a stovepiping approach. a select committee will allow the same group of people to hear from witnesses from the department of state, department of defense, and the cia and now the white house in a coherent fashion. so this new process will give us the b

information was so important that it is now being revealed, why was it redacted, and why did it take a foiaequest? >> talk about politicizing, is this latest focus on benghazi the republicans polit sizing trying to keep the story alive? certainly al political weapon against hillary clinton if she rungs for president in 2016? >> yeah. let me say when i say, you know, not political, i mean this is of a presidential campaign. in the sense, in the hot house, everything is seen through a political lens. >> doesn't mean when you send someone on the sunday talk shows to intentionallily. and to your broader question, for the republicans, it's all parts of a larger thesis that they have >> i think in some cases, very sincerely of continuous deceit and dissembly by the white house and its agencies and whether it's somehow shafting the tea party and the irs if in cincinnati or undue federal to sole solendra, the solar panel outfit and then you throw in their belief that obama has not been successful in the war on debatable. you mix that with the possibility that the person was a secretary of state at

so, it really is going to take perhaps more foia requests to find out the extent of how these conversations are continuing. >> great investigative work, raising all sorts of questions, jason leopold, thank you for bringing this information to us? >> my pleasure. thank you the global community outraged at the imposition of sharia law in brunai. is it fair to boycott a company here over what its ownership does in another country? what parts of the are the most corrupt? our data dive is up next. >> our current system has gone very far awry... >> there's huge pressure on the police to arrest and find somebody guilty >> i think the system is going to fail a lot of other people. >> you convicted the wrong person >> i find that extraordinarily disappointing... >> to keep me from going to jail, i needed to cooperate. >> the evidence was inaccurate >> they still refuse the dna >> somebody can push you in a death chamber >> it's not a joke >> award winning producer and director joe berlinger exposes the truth. from the inside... >> a justice system rum by human beings, can run off the rails. >> some

. >> why did it take a foia and a judge to get this ben rhodes e-mail? >> i don't know. i bet every person in that white house wished the e-mail would have been released earlier. i do, too, it tells us what we said privately is what we said publicly because that's what we thought occurred. it references protests because they were countless across the world. >> mark mad does eadows is on t committee. i'm assuming you agree that this select committee should go forward? >> certainly, at this point to have a real robust investigatioinvestigation that focuses just on benghazi is what we need to do. i'm behind our leadership as they've made the call to vote for this select committee. >> what did you make of that interview that we just heard a snippet of with bret baier, the former nsa communications spokesperson, being relatively smug, admitting that obama was not in the situation room when all this was going down in benghazi. you would say what to that? >> well, that's very troubling, when we have american lives that have been lost and you're not there in the situation room.

>> you have to ask the state department how they responded to foia requests.again point to the fact -- just read it, ed, right? >> we have read it. the conservative group that was demanding this in the suit, judicial watch, specifically was citing the need for documents they wanted turned over from the state department, which is obviously the president's administration. this is not a separate agency or something. they specifically wanted documents on benghazi. that's why the head of judicial watch is now claiming he thinks there could be bigger problems because there was a congressional subpoena for many months seeking documents just like this that were not turned over until the last few days. >> critics say the white house has engaged in a coverup here. >> that was a strong word raises by john mccain today. white house officials sharply pushed back. but john mccain is trying to make the claim the reason why these talking points were out there and the talking points were stressing this came from a muslim -- antimuslim video and not about terror, was that the p

few weeks ago from the white house that should have been in congress's hands but it came out from a foiaest from judicial watch. we've seen e-mails from the irs scandal that have come out that way and not by congress. i think that's what propelled this forward. >> we're all going to be watching you tonight on "special report" for more coverage on this and so much more. thank you, bret. >>> changing gears for a moment, lakes around the country will be filled with people this memorial day weekend. so the u.s. coast guard urging you, of course, to be really careful stressing even though it's warm outside, the water is still cold enough to kill. mike tobin found out the hard way. he's live in michigan to tell us about his firsthand experience. what did you learn, mike? >> well, sadly, gretchen, just yesterday, two healthy men drowned in lake michigan. they succumbed to the cold water while rescuers were searching for them. that's a sad example but it supports the coast guard's push to get everyone to buy one of these if you're out on the water. it helps them save lives. when rescuing victims

in some cases i had to -- from the foias, to unearth certain documents for the more recent presidents that had not been unearthed. the reagan library in california, the archivist really kind of took my project to heart and spent some of her own time really trying to look for documents for me as i was going through the boxes i had. when you do research they bring out carts and boxes and it's almost like a race. you're going through the books and what can i find? and there could be anything in a box. so anything from letters about why did you drop the atomic bomb for hari truman to letters from bankers saying thank you very much for your pouters' him writing back saying i couldn't have done this without you. so all sorts of things you find and you get into this mode of being in that time and that president with those people. going through just this immense amount of documents and then typing everything up while you're there typing it apt night. editing throughout the process, and then going on to the next location and the next president. >> were there any libraries that were -- that you

in about foy -- give informs without foia".day actually just cut and paste our stories, some of the -- some reporters that don't have to work as hard can just cut and paste -- [laughter] can cut and paste their police blog right off our public information and put it out to the public. so sometimes we help drive perception, but we want to be as transparent as possible, and we need to be that way. >> he said it about the media, it wasn't me. [laughter] >> well, it is true that most discussions with police chiefs bashing the media becomes a topic that everyone's gleeful about. and there may be very good reasons for that. but the other side of it is that a lot of police chiefs have become much more proactive, and they've realized that the thing you need to do is to get ahead of it where you build up these relationships with the community, you develop channels for information dissemination so that people are used to knowing what's going on in your department, they are given explanations for ongoing activities. why are we doing these

rekrecently uncovered not a congressional panel or the investigative panel, but by a third party with the foiad those who have participate ed and trying to keep the information at bay, stonewall, are responsible now for the creation of this select committee, and it does have an important responsibility for americans who were killed. rarely have we ever had an american ambassador killed in a terrorist act like this. and no one has been held accountable. i defy you the name anyone who has been held accountable. >> well, look, every loss of life is horrific, obviously. and decisions are made everyday that involve the safety and the security of diplomatic personnel around the world as you well know, and in 2009, darrell issa, paul ryan and others voted for the amendment to cut $1.2 billion of state-operated, from state operations funding for 300 additional security officers, and how did you vote on, that congressman? >> i may have voted for it, and that was 2009, but we have also made certain that we have had adequate resources. my dad used to say it is not how much you spend, but how you spend it

the fact that the email did not come out when it was subpoenaed by congress, the fact it took foia and then a judge to make that release happen, and then when it got up to capitol hill before that, it was redacted. so that holding back of that information and then some other questions and pressure from republicans who believed there is a lot more to look at, i think speaker boehner is moving forward with this. the going bet, jon, that congressman trey gowdy from south carolina will head up this committee. the really question is whether democrats sign on to it or whether they boycott it. jon: yeah. because we heard that from representative adam schiff there, the speculation that democrats might just stay home. can they do that any mean can they refuse to submit members, submit names for the committee? how would it all look? >> yeah, that can happen. it would be interesting if it did happen. obviously there is significant push back from democrats not just congressman schiff but others. release from senate majority leader harry reid and nancy pelosi talking about this, saying it's a waste

email that have been disclosed as a result of judicial watch's efforts to obtain the documents under foiaat some level of the justice department in washington, there was some political pressure applied. it came from the united states senator. it seemed to be in the interest of the democratic party to investigate tea party groups. >> he wanted to know about the frequent number of conservative groups popping up for tax exempt status? >> right. if we didn't learn anything since watergate, we learned that the power to investigate, particularly in the tax area, is the power to destroy. >> but who decides whether we get an investigation going like this? >> ultimately, it's the attorney general. >> he won't do it. >> he will do it if we won't have a choice. >> what would make him do it? >> responding to political pressure. if a convincing case is made to the department that the justice department can't investigate itself. >> how much does that weigh into this thing? >> it's about public sentiment. it is a public issue. there's no getting around the fact that it's irs and it's about prosecution a

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they need foia can requests. administration is redacting information and holding it back and not giving to them panned clearly though know it has been asked for. clearly this was asked for before. >> why is it such a cumbersome mechanism to do this? isn't this a government of fully transparent? everything is blocked out, sitting on document, anything they can do not to turn them over? that to me is un-american and fundamentally wrong. >> many of these stories we keep seeing what happened to the va hospital. secrecy, hiding, covering up that is going on. it sort of what people imagined maybe is happening in the government but we haven't had this enough evidence of it, you know? >> these weren't rogue employees, harris in ohio. these were in washington, d.c. >> well and how specific, tucker alluded to this, how specific ce groups that had certain names in their titles like tea, party, conservative? they put out a bolo. that is what you do when you're looking for a criminal. be on the lookout for a conservative. a b

answers, and we don't know what else they don't have because they didn't have this e-mail from the foiauest. >> and the final results were that the deaths were preventable. that seemed very open-ended to me, and that still leaves a lot of answers that we need based on what happened in benghazi. >> and just to wrap that up, we did just hear from nancy pelosi saying she was satisfied with the investigation, that she doesn't believe that they could have done any more, and she believes there's nobody else to ask questions of. >> yeah. she'll believe the -- right, remember that stunt? this is another one. >> president obama is focusing on the midterms. he's admitting that his executive actions can only go so far without backing from congress, so he says the democrats must take back the house. quote: regardless of how hard i push, regardless of how many administrative actions i take, we're not going to be able to get where we need to go, can go and should go unless i've got a congress that's willing to work with me. um, i just was sort of taken aback at the idea that the president thinks they

there's just this new e-mail that came out from ben rose through a foia request that said nothing different at all but the fact it hadn't been turned over and the fact the media seemed to be okay with that, it feeds all the this. there's a very deep persecution here. i think it speaks to the republican party's national structure being at this point a relatively weak structure. you were talking about how it's difficult to come up with another example of a party having this kind of obsession connected to no discernible policy outcome. and it's because it's a party that is currently chasing an emotion and is out for satisfaction of a theory it has. you typically will have a party establishment be a little bit more goal-oriented than that. but at this point in order to fire up the base, in order to keep the party together, in order to keep people doing something, excited about something, the time when there's going to be no affirmative action done, trying to satisfy this emotional need for closure on this and for some kind of retribution off moments exactly like that one has become a uniting fo

redacted did not could he inside or agree -- coincide or agree with because they asked for it under foia, which has criminal penalties associated with it which meant that those lawyers knew exactly what they were doing and could be held to that criminal penalty point. but in providing them to congress, they would just redact it and then claim might security and we not ever know the difference. we're not stupid. 've been deliberate, we've been cautious, we've stayed after it, but redax after redax -- redaction after redaction and trying to lead us down a path is exactly where this administration has been and they deserve what they're getting. they are the ones that brought this to congress. we are simply properly carefully responding. mr. speaker, at this time i'd like to yield two minutes to the gentleman from the foreign affairs committee, the gentleman from new jersey, mr. smith. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new jersey is recognized for two minutes. mr. smith: i thank the gentleman for bringing this important legislation forward. and also to congressman frank wolf which

that makes me think -- >> ben rhodes memo released thanks to judicial watch and foia, if you look att, what are we saying sunday morning shows, concurrent with what the cia was saying at the time. susan rice kept saying best of our knowledge right now, the quote was word was evolving. it is revolving. so put it out there. martha: based on this massive redaction of seven emails, rich lowery, that this may have been the development of the total strategy. it may be, okay, guys, this is not, this does not look good for us. and here is what we need to do. and if that's what's in there, that's huge, rich. >> we don't know what is in there. but we can almost be certain what is not in there, oh, there is this report. let's check it out. got to be careful. maybe you're wrong about the video. shouldn't have put video story out in the first place because we're so committed to the fact, that would have been released already and released long, long ago. there are two strategies when it comes to scandals. one is suggested by alan get out ahead of it one is the what they're doing here, slow walk an

so stonewalled the investigation that it took a private, outside group, judicial watch, to submit a foiaquest to even get the document that provoked all of this so when you're not getting cooperation from the administration, yes you do need a select committee to actually get these documents, get subpoena, get deposition power, put people like hillary clinton under oath in order to get to the truth. bill: i don't see how democrats do not participate in this. i agree with both of you frankly. because if you choose not to be involved, you're allowing an all likelihood, your nominee for the white house in 2016 to fend for herself. >> i don't think we know who the nominee will be in 2016. more importantly i agree with you that they should participate. i think they will participate. it is part of the who is process. as hillary clinton pointed out in an interview yesterday, you know the house can do what it wants here, right? the house should participate but the bottom line here is that if republicans want to demonstrate that this is non-partisan, and this isn't just another -- bill: understand

redacted did not could he inside or agree -- incide or agree with because they asked for it under foia, which has criminal penalties associated with it which meant that those lawyers knew exactly what they were doing and could be held to that criminal penalty point. but in providing them to congress, they would just redact it and then claim might security and we not ever know the difference. we're not stupid. 've been deliberate, we've been cautious, we've stayed after it, but redax after redax -- redaction after redaction and trying to lead us down a path is exactly where this administration has been and they deserve what they're getting. they are the ones that brought this to congress. we are simply properly carefully responding. mr. speaker, at this time i'd like to yield two minutes to the gentleman from the foreign affairs committee, the gentleman from new jersey, mr. smith. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new jersey is recognized for two minutes. mr. smith: i thank the gentleman for bringing this important legislation forward. and also to congressman frank wolf which

as to whether or not congress would have received these documents absence judicial watch's foea -- foia request. the two sets of documents are incredibly similar and shockingly some of the documents received by the committee are more redacted than those received by judicial watch. well, i get that. that's because under foia, there a criminal statute attached to that which those lawyers preparing these documents knew they could be criminally held libal. mr. speaker. the bottom line to this is, this administration has not respected the united states congress. did not respect the committees that were asking for this information, and thereto, make sure that they made their job even more difficult. these roadblocks, i believe, serve as two important points for us to remember that the speaker of the house of representatives did not choose to be where we are today, but rather it was this administration through its deliberate attempt to place us exactly where we are. so, first the committee will have questions that it has to ask, and they are going to this administration to make sure that we ha

over in a benghazi -- >> you have to ask the state department about their process for responding to foias then decide for yourself as many people have now said and written. this is a conspiracy in theory -- >> on 9-12 you were asked about benghazi whether it was premeditated. you said it's too early for us to make that judgment. it's being investigated. on 9-14 ben rhodes is writing an e-mail that this was inspired by a video. why is it not we don't know we're investigating it. >> the only thing in that e-mail that refers to benghazi is a cut and paste from the talking points which much to your disappointment and your boss's disappointment turned out to be produced by the cia. >> your boss's disappointment. >> so dismiss, distract and blame, again. the benghazi memo there was the emails weren't having anything to do with benghazi even though they requested all benghazi documents, they put forth this one. >> it said benghazi on it. >> it's not about benghazi so we're going to shift again and, instead of bringing more truth forward we're going to bring more blame. >> bill o'reilly started