i don't think it was to expose it to the people filing the foia information.: now jordan, aren't their rules about putting information on personal e-mail or alias accounts, she claimed she used the government's server but still using alias? >> the rules would be when you're filing to make sure, and that's why we have to go back and when people file requests for information related to the attorney general, that they were getting the responses now that we know the alias existed. i don't know that it's illegal for the alias to exist. i don't think there's a problem there as long as you are on the server, like you said, so long as you are not hiding information that should be available to the public with the alias. david: talk about that information. we know irs -- former irs official lois lerner, going after the tea party that she also used an alias, we just discovered what that was. might we reopen her case, or at least you in the private sector do that? >> we're still involved. in depositions with that case. we represented all those groups that were still waiti

foia that's the particular way you go about requesting publicly available infor information. public sit discontinues say whether they filed the foia request they were told in turn they were not allowed to have records even though public citizens believes those are pubicly available record. that's what led to the lawsuit they say today by the attorney dina rosen baw. she told us what happened when she reached out to the secret service to get these logs. >> sect first by telling us they were not agency recordsed subject to foia and when we appealed that and told them that the d.c. circumstance hit held in 2013 these were agency records subject to foia they said they already transferred records to the white house office of records management. >> and bays those record were transferred public citizens say they were told they cannot have them. what do they want to know here. they want information about meeting for the office of management and budget and office of drug control policy and also the office of environmental quality and science and technology. public citizens say they ne

to circumvent foia by using the alias, it wasn't successful. >> what is she trying to hide?question. they should be investigating her yesterday. gerri: yesterday. i love it. guys, great job, fascinating conversation. love the fact you have two different views. thanks for joining me, lou dobbs coming up next on fox business. stay here for lou. . lou: good evening, everybody, north korea tonight viewing to take revenge against the united states for what it considers the most important foreign policy success of the past 25 years. the united nations saturday voting unanimously 15-0 to impose new sanctions against north korea for its testing of two intercontinental ballistic missles last month. a major diplomatic win for the president because russia and china have long opposed taking tougher action against north korea. those sanctions also the harshest to date, slashing a third of the country's $3

i'm talking from the top down from the foia officials and department of justice and the fbi to those top officials at the nsc and intelligence community you have too many people who were political appointees from president obama who then switched over to being bureaucrats. you can't drain the swamp without getting rid of those folks. >> maria: so does president trump need to get rid of those people and who will he put in place. where is he getting these people he's taken forever to get cabinet secretaries in place. >> a lot of these are not people that have to be confirmed though so if you've got attorneys, if you've got good people from the business world ready to join this administration to help out they don't have to go through a confirmation process. you moved out that bureaucrat and replaced them with a political appointee and you don't have to get most of these positions confirmed. >> maria: really quick we have to run but what are you looking for when you're with these freedom of information requests? what do you think you'll find out? >> two things. one, all of the talking po

it is very suspicious a year ago, in a foia request, an organization asked for all documents pertaining to that meeting between bill clinton and loretta lynch. james comey under penalty of perjury signed a document that said there are none. lo and behold we found out over the course of the last several days that there were 420 pages of documents pertaining to that meeting including prepared talking points which we know is spin from the department of justice and the fbi. all kinds of communications with reporters as well. so why would james comey say there are no documents when in fact there were? did 420 documents get lost and suddenly magically reappear? trish: do you think he you knew there were documents and was deliberately trying -- >> that is one of the explanations. either he lied or, he didn't understand the request, but it is hard to believe that because it was standard boilerplate lawyer language, all documents pertaining to. or you know, they were lost and they have now been found but those are the only three explanations that are possible. trish: bizarre. quickly, while you

you were lied to on the fbi originally on your foia request, they said no such documents exist.en the fbi and the justice department, 481 pages. they put talking points togethe together. the never sent you the talking points, they put a black page up. >> let me tell you what happened, we put on the request. et cetera the lettered the meeting between the attorney general loretta lynch and president bill clinton. no documents that we had pursuant to your request, those documents don't exist. the same request to the department of justice they didn't respond at all. we got a court order demanding release of the documents and we get those documents two weeks ago, in it are documents between the fbi and the department of justice, of course the fbi was saying we had no such documents. we raised it right here on your broadcasts, we raised it with the lawyers at the various departments including the department of justice. in those email exchanges, one of the email exchanges involved not just somebody in the fbi but the chief of staff to james comey receiving information on talking points

circuit had held in 2013 these were agency records subject to foia. they said they already transferred the records to the whitehouse office of records management. >> watchdog group hoping the course will declare wit withholding white house and administration visitor logs is illegal and secret service told us it doesn't comment on pending lawsuits. >> "fox5" has told you about the brown murky water flowing from some taps in montgomery dounltsy. it started last week. and now it spread to prince george county. officials say the problems lies in the potomac because of all the recent rain. things like river glasses and twigs and leaves gets in and doesn't mix well with chl chlorine. color is from magnese which is usually whipd out by chlorine. for now they're using less chlorine. utilit safe. >> this is definitely esthetic issue only not a public health issue. your water is safe to consume. i stake my reputation on it. >> even if the water is safe to drink brown or yellow water can stain clothes in the wash. wffc is give ago way free kids to help with that

this ruling was specifically related to the foia is searching for this case. be searched have already all been searched and provided to trey gowdy's special select committee and to multiple other benghazi investigations. in other words, they weren't produced at a pace. in order -- according to my former colleague, there is no information, just emails. trey gowdy has all of them. let me finish. the idea that will get new information since it's been done multiple times, it's not. >> trish: we just disagree. >> marie: they have already been searched and provided. they just weren't provided -- >> lisa: it's also fair to question the transparency of hillary clinton. i think we are facing a big problem in america right now with trust and institutions being so low and part of that is because you have things like what happened at benghazi and we know because of this information that has later surfaced, not just this, but prior that he rarely clinton emailed her daughter that night, telling her daughter that ed was a result of a plan to all kino related attack. she als

nothing gets done without a foia in washington, that's for sure. guys, thanks so much. you bet. gerri: and next, foreign automakers making a huge bet on america with a giant investment in plants and jobs. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ whatever you want to do... ♪ ...is alright with me. ♪ ooo baby let's... ♪ ...let's stay together... itwhat's possible.nk rethink the experience. rethink your allergy pills. flonase sensimist allergy relief uses unique mistpro technology and helps block 6 key inflammatory substances with a gentle mist. most allergy pills only block one. and 6 is greater than one. rethink your allergy relief. flonase sensimist. ♪ gerri: welcome back. toyota and mazda announcing that they will build a $1.6 billion factory in the u.s. they will create as many as 4,000 jobs. this after president trump attacked toyota earlier this year when the company announced initial plans to build a factory, where? in mexico. gina loudon, political analyst and donald j. trump for president inc. advisory board member and rachel campos duffy join me now. gina, i'll start with you. how m

because it starts with a document when we filed the foia request before we go to court, we filed the request with the department and justice and the fbi about two weeks after the meeting with the tarmac. and i got in my hands the response from the fbi and the fbi said we did the search, they were going back and forth for a couple months and we found nothing. and today and yesterday's document release, if you go through there, you will see fbi officials. not only will you see fbi officials on the e-mails and actually with records, but you will actually see places in these 413 pages where it was the fbi redacting information from us. so they were very much involved, so they started the whole process by saying there was nothing and started redacting things when there was something and this was happening under the tenure of james comey, ultimately the documents get released and as you pointed out, liz, not only is it troubling to see how the department of justice was really just concerned about how do we respond to this. this was at a time when they were worried that the media was going

i spent more time in that white house responding to foia requests the doing anything else. and going those through a three document trying to find that thing that ken starr wanted that week. now, i actually get to do my job. >> watch our interview with omarosa manigault on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span o.org. >> now a discussion on the future of american political parties. townhall political editor guy benson and other commentators participating. this was part of a world affairs conference hosted by the university of colorado. this is about an hour and 10 minutes.

to the aclj, the fbi can'ts in there, they reopened their foia. want to gather all the information if they do it in timely manner. we will, if not, like we've done with the senate judiciary committee, we can go, public can go to group like us, to the inspector general at department of justice. he has team of 450 people that can investigate. david: yeah, wow. >> can work with us, do it on their own. he is already currently investigating jim comey's actions involving the direct lit clinton investigation. this would get to, we want to know the answer, how many people knew about this meeting, and how far in advance would they know about the meeting. that would change the whole narrative. david: jordan, thank you for all the work you do. jordan sekulow. melissa. melissa: shutting down the tweeter-in-chief. really? valerie plame wilson, former cia spy outed during a leak in the george w. bush administration, is crowd funding to purchase twitter to kick president trump off his twitter platform. the fundraiser say trump's tweets damage the country. as of

i spend more time in that white house responding to foia requests than doing anything else. i remember those and going to every document trying to find that thing that can star wanted that week -- that ken starr wanted that week. coming in now, i get to do my job. the whiteerview with house office public liaison friday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org.

i spend more time in that white house responding to foia requests than doing anything else. i remember those and going to every document trying to find that thing that can star wanted that week -- that ken starr wanted that week. coming in now, i get to do my job. the whiteerview with house office public liaison friday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. "washington journal" continues. host: zack colman, e&e news white house reporter, talking about that climate change report that came out. why was this report done in the first place, zack colman? thet: this is part of national climate assessment that is congressionally mandated and has to be done every four years. george h.w. bush side of the bill into law. it happens regularly. the report we are talking about today is part of that national climate assessment. host: who is involved? guest: there are 13 federal agencies involved here, naked scientists and the agencies, and they also have -- and they get scientists in the agencies and consulting academia, and they pass along their information to the w

lou: she wanted to avoid foia trails. >> that's another factor she should be prosecuted on the breakinglaw, the act that says you have to maintain documentation and the policy that goes against the fbi on use of this. simply put. congress enforces the laws they had implemented and the policies that exist within the f.b.i., these people would not only be gone, they would be in front of a grand jury and about to be indicted. lou: we are looking at the senate judiciary committee led by chuck grassley. he's about 82 or 83. dianne feinstein, the ranging member. we are going through here. we have got people who are not really pushing the interest of the nation, national security, and i don't know why. i don't know if it's age related or what the problem is. but i also know the senate intelligence committee is being run by the ranging member, mark warner instead richard burr who sees afraid of his own shadow. this an up justice to the american people. >> president trump deserves a senate committees which will do the right thing. the other thing you and i talked about is jeff sessions. he needs

i spent more time in that white house responding to foia requests than doing anything else. boy, i remember those foias and going through every document, trying to find that thing that ken starr wanted that week. and so, you know, coming in now, i actually get to do my job. >> watching our interview with omarosa manigault, white house office of public liaison friday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span radio and c-span.org. >>> next on c-span3, we continue our focus on the supreme court with an episode from our landmark cases series on presidential powers and the jewish justices of the supreme court. we start with youngstown sheet and tube v sawyer. the 1952 case limited the power of the president to seize property when the court ruled 6-3 that president truman lacked the authority to seize steel plants in order to avert a labor strike in the midst of the korean war. >> all persons having business before the honorable, the supreme court of the united states, are admonished to draw near and give their

general who obstructed justice and resorted to unlawful behavior, that is using an alias to avoid foiaarlie: there is enough evidence to open an investigation into that and the unmasking of trump officials during the campaign. that was the president of the united states allegedly -- not allegedly. we have real smoking gun evidence to suggest the president was using the most of powerful intelligence apparatus on the planet to spy on his political opponents in the united states of america, then they unmasked those people and leaked that information to damage them and hurt those people and punish their enemies. there should be an investigation into both of these things. and they should go as far as it goes to the top and she should prosecute. >> i respect both of you so much. i'm of a minds seth there is so much on the president's plate and america's threat. we have so much to struggle with. both of you are absolutely right. but we are facing something that's perilous. we need strong leadership, clarity and consistency it's a good time to have that muscular presidency many say is what tru

issue a public watchdog group now accusing secret service violating freedom of information known as foia. and "fox5" tom fitzgerald poured over the suit and is live any court. >> this is it, the lawsuit filed at the district courthouse in norm west d.c. watchdog group named public citizen mild group because they say they have been the group's attorney said that over four months they've been trying to get information about who went to meeting with the office of management in budget and environmental quality council and office of drug control policy and science and technology council at the white house. secret service claims that these kinds of records are not public records even though the request was filed through the freedom of information act. >> the wreak set service respond first we telling us these were not agency records subject to told them d.c. wishingit had held in 203 that they were emergency records and all right transheard records to white house. >> as it stands now the sit sdeps do not have those reports. that's why they say they're taking secret service to co court. what we

the letter from the fbi to the lawyer who put out the foia request said you have not sufficiently demonstratedinterest exposure outweighs purple personal privy interest of the subject. tommy is new to fox, you're a 50 year tv veteran. i'm going to go to her first all the time. >> i would hope so. if >> sean: welcome aboard the fox news channel and our audience is very familiar with you, you've been on a ton of times before. how would this not be in our best interest? it's in everybody's best interest to get the truth, right? >> of course it is, the funny part of this whole thing is that her privacy trumps our right to know. when you use a private email on a private server, your privacy rights are out the window when the secretary of state of the dead of america. you don't have privacy anymore. i personally would like to know. >> sean: you're a lawyer, subpoenaed emails. let's say i deleted 33,000 subpoenaed emails. let's take dominic say i took a hammer to my blackberries and iphones to make sure they don't exist. and then i send the fbi or other devices with note sim cards. i hire you to prot

we did foia to the administration, independent people outside of government who are doing hard core investigationsf evidence on these issues. no evidence on russia, that's all we care about is russia. thoughts. >> there's something fundamentally unfair and imbalanced when you investigate the winner of a presidential election but not the loser. hillary clinton doesn't get a get out of jail free card simply because she lost a presidential election. now you've got the house judiciary committee asking for a special counsel to investigate hillary clinton, james comey, loretta lynch, samantha power, susan rice, there may be a lot more there than meets the eye at first blush. >> sean: thank you all for being with us, appreciate it. when we come back, i have a big announcement that i want to share with you, that's straight ahead, that's really big, big. nf helps block 6 key inflammatory substances with a gentle mist. most allergy pills only block one. and 6 is greater than one. flonase sensimist. ♪ tha...oh, burnt-on gravy?ie. ...gotta rinse that. nope. no way. nada. really? dish issues? throw it all in.

foia requests will be honored and we see the information.she is dead or personal privacy concerns are overridden by the public interest. in this case i think this would be one of those where almost seems foolproof that would happen. they're saying no. saying public interest does not override this. we look what happened. look at amount of media interest this received all the way back to dating two years ago until now i really think this blows many people's mind. cheryl: conspiracy theorist in me, they're seeing something in the emails they don't want to be released. they would rather have them safe, blacked out, if you will, covered up. >> right. when we look at a concern people have, this could potentially affect our lives, put them in danger. she used a private home server to conduct government, government relations when she was leading the state department. this is unacceptable. cheryl: obviously, now that election is passed, even president trump, candidate trump wanted her thrown in jail, arrest her, but president trump is really backed o

realizing they have created a quite a difficult situation for themselves, reopened the investigation, the foia for more information on the loretta lynch, bill clinton meeting. by the way we learned today as we're going through all the documents, voluminous, in fact there was, it wasn't just intergovernmental. doj to fbi but even "the washington post" to the fbi about this very issue with former attorney general lynch and former president clinton. so the reality is, the fbi is now going to have to come mean on this i suspect it is not something they wanted to have to do. obviously they denied the request from the beginning. now they're compelled to. melissa: as a layperson, explain what you're looking for. my perception, maybe he got on the plane, maybe they had a conversation where they shouldn't have, said whatever on the upcoming case. why would there be a document, would reveal, be a smoking gun about the conversation? seems like a conversation between two people? >> sure. the whatever is exactly that we have for instance, documentation that shows a lengthy email, what is called talking poi

i went back and looked a at foia request. it said hand over any and all documents pertaining to the clinton-lynch meeting. and comey signed a document under penalty of perjury that said he was being truthful when he said there were no such documents. clearly today, the department of justice has released hundreds of pages of documents pertaining to the meeting. perjury is a crime. mr. comey needs a good defense lawyer. >> yeah. cheryl: 40 minutes, i can't say or 44 minutes, i can't remember, i'm not sure you can talk that much about golf. that is a long time to talk about golf. greg, harlan, pablo, thank you guys. appreciate it. >> thank you, cheryl. cheryl: want to turn to the other big story we're following. market stocks trading higher on heels of a strong july report, job growth rising more than expected last month. the economy adding 209,000 non-farm jobs and the unemployment rate slipping to 4.3% for the month. president trump praising the results on twitter, quote, excellent jobs numbers just released and i have only ju

but def con, it's all cash, pay at the door, there's no record, there's nothing to seize, nothing to foia no credit card records to subpoena. it's optimized for speed of registering people and not being an attractive target for law enforcement. >> host: jeff moss, when we told people at the c-span we were coming out here, oh, turn off your phone, don't use a money machine. avoid anything electronic when you're down there. is that true? >> guest: to some -- that's thing my. thing my is that it's super hostile, but you have to remember now it's pretty hostile everywhere. used to be just hostile during def con and black hat. now every airport seems to have a fake cell tower operate, fake wi-fi catcher, because if you steel somebody's login, why not at the business lounge at the international airport. that's where the high value targets are. so if you monitor your wi-fi signal you'll re fake stations, amtrak station, dc has a fake cell tower. this is the way that it is. if you're a criminal and you can build a backpack to intercept information and just leave the backpack plugged in somewhere,

the bogeyman back foiar-year request -- request for this -- i spent more time responding to foia f requestsfinding what he wanted that week. coming in now, i get to do my job. >> watch our interview with marosaow semantical -- o manigault. trump held a national security meeting this afternoon in bedminster, a new jersey golf course where he is vacationing. at the meeting, he talked to reporters about north korea and gave his thoughts on whether mitch mcconnell should resign if exchange. -- here is the exchange. it runs about eight minutes.

, i will tell tel you don't get many of these in your legal career where the fbi reduced itself on foiahere someone is lying and apparently the fbi was the one. todd: jay lawyer to lawyer here, when you receive a request from another lawyer, have you an obligation, the oath that you swore when you became a lawyer to produce the evidence that is requested. now, granted, can you redact for attorney-client privilege and things of that nature. this is an out and out lie. >> this is what they said by letter dated october 21st we advise you locate nod responsive documents to your inquiry and then they say subsequently the department of justice produced documents which communicated between the fbi and the doj. so now we are going back and going to find those documents. now the question is going to be and this will be the interesting aspect of this. they will find the documents. are they going to produce them? finding them is one thing and getting them produceside another. we are prepared, if necessary, to go back to federal court. these admissions or releases are what they call rolling documen

by which the record keeping system was maintained during her tenure at the state department avoided foia. >> the pentagon confirming pair of air strikes targeting al-shabaab in somalia. somalia's president said a high ranking al-shabaab leader was killed but the u.s. said it cannot confirm that and we are still assessing the impact of the strikes in that region. >> mr. president, you talked ab leading the dismissal of the general counsel. >> i haven't given it any thought. i have been reading about it from you saying i'm gonna dismiss him. i'm dismissing anybody. i want them to get on with the task. i also want the senate and house to come out with their findings. now, judging from the people leaving the meetings, leak, but they leave the meetings all the time and they say no, we haven't found any collusion. there was no collusion. do you know why? i don't speak to russian. look, i won because i suppose i was a much better candidate than her. >> there you have it from yesterday. no plans to fire the special counsel. also repeating no collusion with moscow. fox news contributor, former ad

her address was well-known to the individual who processed foia requests, freedom of information act,re regularly produced albeit with her exact address redacted. eric holder had pseudonyms as well for all the sports fans, you probably recognize this one, at one point he went with the pseudonym, lew alcindor, the nod to the former basketball great. what you have here, connell, attorney for loretta lynch hey look, this was standard practice. this is what people in the position of loretta lynch did. however now you also have critics saying well this was a meeting that was highly questionable, highly skeptical to begin with. now you have notice of emails which loretta lynch was not using her own name. connell: i didn't know they did that with their government addresses to be honest. that is kind of interesting. blake burman still checks into the hotels under name peter barnes which is a little odd. thank you, blake. >>> this hbo story, this hbo hack is taking a turn for the worse. hackers are demanding a big-time payday. they want to get paid. bring in hillary vaughn for latest on that.

so i mean, that's why this foia case, this freedom of information act is so important.ou know, yes, it would be, it would be helpful if president trump stepped in and said, you know, this is wrong. neil: that is not going to happen governor. that is not going to happen. what i said at the outset, not being facetious, normally look for a big ol' suitcase full of cash, that would catch you in the act. there is no suitcase. there is no cash. i found the whole thing weird. i will, while i have you, sir, given the dust-up in charlottesville, and concern over con confederate statues, some in alabama as well, people say take them down, rip them up. what do you say. >> it is not inanimate bronze statues that worry me. it is inanimate activity of congress and the white house that concerns me. we need to be more concerned about solving problems of the country, education, infrastructure -- neil: know that, would you think what they're doing now is take them down. take them down and get those into those issues later? >> i personally think it is dangerous because it can inflame the

my organization has been focused on very carefully over last several months, looking at number of foia access suits which have been filed, looking at, how those have been proceeding. looking at specific kinds of information, interactions with the press. things like, looking at legal implications for example, telling somebody they can't take a photograph, telling somebody they have to delete a photograph they have taken. those two things might sound very similar but to a first amendment lawyer we recognize that you can have first amendment right to broadcast or publish a photo. you don't have a first amendment right to take. you can wind you edging towards issues like prior restraint in ways you don't expect. if there is pattern we see dialogue between the press and government shifting away from, you know, limiting access to places, to blocking publiccation of material gathered, that would throw up a big red flag. >> i think mike made a interesting point when he said so much information has to funnel through the white house. i wonder why that is. jeff, you can talk a little it about abo

organization has been focused on very carefully over the last several months, looking at the number of foia access suits that have been filed, looking at the interactions with the press, things like the legal implications of the difference between telling somebody they cannot take a photograph and telling somebody they have to delete a photograph they have taken. those two things might sound very similar, but to a first amendment lawyer, we recognize you can actually have a first amendment right to broadcast a -- or publish a photo you do not have a first amendment right to take. you can edge toward issues like prior restraint in ways you do not expect. if there is a pattern where we see the dialogue between the press and the government shifting away from limiting access to places to blocking a publication of material gathered that is a red flag. , ms. kiely: i think mike made an interesting point when he said so much information has to funnel through the white house. i wonder why that is. john, you can talk about your own experience. you are at an agency, executive branch agency, trying to

i spent more time in the white house responding to foia requests. remember those foias going through every document trying to find what kenneth starr wanted that week. coming in now, to do my job. >> the white house office of public liaisons friday at 8:00 eastern on c-span, c-span radio and c-span.org. >> c-span on the road meeting with winners of the student cam video documentary competition. at laramie high school in laramie, wyoming, gathering with families and officials to accept the first prize of $3000 for the documentary on wyoming's dependence on fossil fuels. a classical academy accepted a second-place prize of $1500 for a documentary on cybersecurity, the third-place award, 7 $50, and there documentary of digital theft and hacking. st. thomas moore high school in south dakota where andre cope, and caroline anchorage with a price of 7 $50 for the documentary on racial inequality in america. about five hours in south dakota's seventh grader caleb miller and patrick henry middle school received a third-place prize of 7 $50 for his documentar