>> that has been occurring. >> commissioner follansbee. >> number one, do we have a date? you said in the report that ucsf medical group has instructed doctors to stop providing medical service. is there a date to stop providing medical service to new requests? i appreciate the thoroughness of the report from the standpoint, a lot of times positions don't understand what is going on with the billing and they may provide services and the staff may make appointments for months and all a sudden bills start getting sent back and so there may be as you pointed out in your report i think accurately, a lag. i just want to remind everybody, make sure we are on the same page that the medical groups are separate entities then the hospital systems, and so the ucsf hospital system, which has outlying clinics and all that, is different then the medical group itself and the ucsf medical group is different then every other medical group any other uc hospital system. it is quite possible that the positions at ucla, uc davis have through their medical groups have signed contracts and the g