food security. and you can. discuss the politics of food i'm joined by the it as a sound in rome he is a senior economist at the food and agricultural organization of the united nations in burlington we go to vandana shiva she's an ecologist and author and in london rick ross to rob lyons he's deputy editor at spike and another member of our cross talk team on the go all right folks cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want if i go to rome first the term crisis food crisis is bandied about a lot and is there a crisis and if there is a crisis what is the crisis and what is it mean for everyone not just poor people but the rich west what does it mean globally for everyone. oh i'm glad you asked it in that manner because there's always a confusion about what christ is supposed to mean i for one believe that food prices for say we always had it in fact with a million people angry we must have prices but when you bring up the issue of you know richer people or countries which are better off we tend to think about those commodities they consume in northern centers and prices of which may or may not have gone up i think we are quite far from hav