and the farm was really just used for us to survive on, like foodwise. we grew and ate everything off the land, but it was really to hold the machinery for the road construction company and also everybody that worked for the company lived on the farm with us. i was an only child, i was raised with zulus and others and their children. >> an amazing experience. >> it really was. and i was only aware of what was going on in south africa through the fact that my parents were very much outspoken about politics. and that was kind of an every night event. having dinner and having my mom and my dad talk about the situation in south africa and politics, and also really witnessing racism through some of my friends and that knowledge of apartheid was very evident. so i think i was blessed to have the childhood that i -- you know, you have to kind of look at the glass half empty or half full. i grew up in a beautiful country with a lot of problems. i was raised by two great parents, a great mother who made me very much aware of having a political awareness of where