steve forbes? >> i met him at an event i did when i was working in southern california and one thing led to another. i moved back to new york. i am from new york and started working at "forbes" of the pr department. >> elizabeth ames, or practical experience, how do that that? >> i've learned a lot since "forbes." when i sat "forbes" islandwide about markets. again, i began as a journalist and worked at "businessweek" many years ago as a journalist. but when i started to work as an entrepreneur, i learned about the fact that you really need to have economic freedom to create jobs. something i learned personally. if you're obviously just getting a paycheck, you really don't understand how government can affect that firsthand. that was one of the things that led me to think this is a useful idea for a book. >> overall, philosophically, how do you see the role of government, the role of congress, the role of the president in the economy? >> basically this book raises and answers the question. we need

, chaired and "forbes" media. mr. forbes discusses his book, "freedom manifesto," a follow-up to his book "how capitalism will save us." >> now joining us on booktv is magazine publisher, politician and frequent author, steve forbes, whose newest book is coming out in august of 2012 and it's called "freedom manifesto: why free markets are moral and big government isn't." we are at freedom fest in las vegas, where mr. forbes is speaking. mr. forbes, why is that free markets are moreover, but that government isn't. with an example of that? >> remake the emphasis of big government. going back to it james madison defined. but in terms of big government not being moral, it is the opposite of what it purports to do and creates an environment we have less ability to get ahead increased dependency and not a sense of independence. it plessis crony capitalism, which hurts oil entrepreneurship and creativity. all the things the government says it does hopes the poor to make sure the markets: the right direction. they do the

welcome to forbes on fox and we'll go with steve forbes and rick unger and elizabeth mcdonald and victoria and steve and rich. >> what do you think? >> jobs are going to be destroid even if they don't go overseas. health care costs are goi up. obama care is increasing alert . insurers have to take all comers and that will put a strain on it and mandates, consumers may not want them and politicians say you must have them and insurance costs are going up and we the people will be losers. >>> and the hobby lobby face a fine 1. 5 million if they don't dohat the government said they have to do via the health care law. >> i was corrected. 1.3 million a day. that is the daily fine they have to pay. >> let's make an important distunction we are notuve for dinner bets. mipemine is open for the anybody who doesn't think they will get exempted. i think it is. they have been giving health care to the employees over in the charity for years. theirob ligation is not health care, but it is a religious problem and it is going to be dealt w. i hope that the corporions in the country will take a lesson and

now back to forbes on fox . for all of your latest headlines. >> as the clock ticks down. new report shows that american workers are not using up all of the vacation time. they are said to be seen as lazy and losing their job. this is a good sign for the economy. how so, steve. not for those two reasons . we don't have too much vacation or little. we do it just right. europe had work like we did. you want lopping beer vacation you can have a stagnant economy like europe. we raise taxes we'll have longer vacation but fewer jobbings. >> you are right. we don't want to be like the french. and people here in the united states and government union. and i was on vacation and check my blackberry and read a rick unger e-mail while on vacation. >> you are never on vacation. >> you work it anyway. nine out of the 10 are checking their work phones. any time to rejuvenate and come back ragged. >> we need that vacation time to work better. >> when you say economy you are talking about gdp. good or ill it is major transaction. have everyone never talk a day off and work 60 hours a week.

>> basically i've learned a lot since forbes. when i was at forbes i learned a lot about markets. and again i was a journalist. i began as a journalist and i worked at business week many years ago as a journalist, but when i started to work as an entrepreneur, i learned about the fact that you really need to have economic freedom is to create jobs. and it's something i learned personally. and if you're just getting a paycheck you really don't understand how government can affect a small business and job creation. i experienced that firsthand. so that was one of the things that led me to think that this would be a useful idea for a book. >> over all, philosophically, how do you see the role of government, the role of congress the role of the president in the economy? >> basically this book raises that and answers that question. we need government but we need government to create a stable environment for businesses to function and to create jobs. when government metals too much into the economy, government and its decisions and policies are driven by politics, and markets are driven

steve forbes is right. we're overdoing it.ng to become the instead of solving the problem. we need to chill out. >> i know, you painted a scenario of silliness, somebody staring at every action or word on the bus. when you are bothered, wondering who is listening in and if they are listening in? >> i'm glad someone is listening. what am i doing on bus. here is why -- >> how much liberty are you willing to give up to be secure. >> i know the story... in the bay area. they were able to track down the other kids who beat him up because there was a camera in that bus. to me that is powerful story. >> go ahead. >> i mean how much liberty are we willing to give up to be secure? this is just so dangerous to rely on people to snoop on us. >> then don't take public transportation. that is the dividing line. we know that public transportation is a target. >> isn't eight slippery slope. you started in the streets with these cameras at traffic lights. now you are going buses, now next inside your house. >> hey, i got tagged for going 69 i

steve forbes is right. we're overdoing it.re going to become the instead of solving the problem. we need to chill out. >> i know, you painted a scenario of silliness, somebody staring at every action or word on the bus. when you are bothered, wondering who is listening in and if they are listening in? >> i'm glad someone is listening. what am i doing on bus. here is why -- >> how much liberty are you willing to give up to be secure. >> i know the story... in the bay area. they were able to track down the other kids who beat him up because there was a camera in that bus. to me that is powerful story. >> go ahead. >> i mean how much liberty are we willing to give up to be secure? this is just so dangerous to rely on people to snoop on us. >> then don't take public transportation. that is the dividing line. we know that public transportation is a target. >> isn't eight slippery slope. you started in the streets with these cameras at traffic lights. now you are going buses, now next inside your house. >> hey, i got tagged for goin

i have to go steve forbes. the most supply side oriented tax of all is the tax on risk and wealth, namely capital gains tax, risk wealth high risk stock investment. every time the capital gains tax rate is cut, revenues soar as they did under bill clinton. in fact, president obama was asked this in a tv interview during the campaign and he said i know that's what the numbers show but i still want to raise the top rates. if ever there's a supply side tax rates where lower rates produce higher rates it's capital gains. >> that's right. people start taking gains and hold on to what they have. that means capital is not put to work. in the early 1990s the economy was starting to get a real head of steam. not enough to save george h.w. bush but that slowed in '93 and '94. when republicans came in, cut spending, killed hilary care and alan greenspan had a sensible monetary policy, the economy started to recover and then clinton got the religion, he cut capital gains. >> steve is giving your man all these kudos and you

forbes doesn't think so. there's a news conference along with washington lawmakers to push for the flat tax. he joins us later this hour. liz: first, what drove the marketings for today's data download. stocks ending lower, struggling for direction most of the day, unable to hold gains trading lower. i think it was 79 times. health care and industrials were today's top performing sectors and telecomo lagged. the euro extending the gains versus the dollar, rallying to a near seven week high against the green back after greece announced its debt buy back terms. euro rose to a $1131. that's high historically. action in the metals. silver, platinum, all sinking more than 1%. silver was today's biggest loser dropping nearly p 3% to settle at $32.81 an ounce. david: markets hopping, but the next trader says investor participation is shifting. in chicago, larry, the key question here is what happens when the market gets off its hind legs and moves? move up or down? >> it all depends on what happens with the fiscal c

david asbin and forbes on fox is here right now. >> just about everybody is trying to stop the tax cuts from exping. but billions in subidies for wind energy should be expiring. could they be right or will they blow up energy prices. we'll go in focus with steve bor bes and bill and morgan. is it paying off? >> no, it is 18 times that of nuclear energy. ronald reagan was right. thes thing to immortality is a government program. politicians are labeled with hot wind and we label the section gone with the wind. >> we have sending sib sidies in '92, has it been worth it. >> we are early inlet process. we have subsidized oil and coal and gas. we have done themrom darn near a century. these don't look so bad. like i or not, the majority of americs believe that global warming is an issue. we need to develop clear energy sources. fossil fuels may b a difficult problem. we are subsidizing thingings. it is cheaper to produce energy from natural gas. it is a subsidies. other than it is nural gas there. it is 63 cents compared to $53. th is not a pay off to me. >> i will have to disagree with rick

and now let's take a look at one of those year red lists that are everywhere this time of year forbes magazine has a list of calls thirty under thirty the magazine lists quote young disruptors innovators an entrepreneur is impatient to change the world and categories like media food and drink and entertainment take a look at forbes is thirty under thirty in education thirty millennial forbes things are overhauling the learning process but if you take a really close look you'll see that among all the founders and co-founders on the list there's one job conspicuously missing teachers that's right there are no teachers and forbes is look at the most notable people in education so it's no teachers made the grade who does it turns out nineteen founders on the list for directors in a basket or an author a chief engineer among others and there's one doctoral candidate technically a student and that student is about as close as you get to a teacher this year teachers have been vilified and used for political shots we've heard from politicians that they're lazy overpaid and get too much vacati

media, steve forbes.by the way any doubt if we do over a cliff, we'll go into recession? >> i think the economy is going to be in a slowdown any way. already business decisions have been put off, david because of uncertainty surrounding this, not to mention what will be happening with obamacare. we're in for rough waters any way, talking about the titanic. the question is how deep will it be? if we go over the cliff will it be a couple weeks before they reach a deal? will they be able to mate it retroactive? will they go a few more weeks? president obama feeling strong hand he can browbeat the republicans and make them crawling back is what i think he can do right now? it in terms of the revenue even if he got his way it is five cents on the dollar. david: we'll talk about that in a second. i want to squeeze you on this there are a lot of economists who say yes, if all taxes go up no doubt we'll go into recession. >> right. david: there will be less spending. producers have less money to hire people. ever

never gave in and his refusal to sell was actually documented in the scottish film as a result forbes has just named scotland's top scot of the year beating out sports stars and other celebrities for forbes sort of trump target instant dislike to him he called me a village idiot accused me of living in a pig sty and i think everyone knows by now that he's the clone of new york but instead of myself better better myself michael the bad starbucks yesterday news broke that starbucks has been avoiding paying their fair share of taxes in the u.k. for years so how did starbucks react to the news well the company decided to slash u.k. worker pay take away paid lunch breaks and paid sick days some workers are also paid pay freezes and a lack of incentives for moving up within the company basically starbucks knows that it will now i have to pay taxes like everyone else and unfortunately the company has chosen to punish its workers in order to recoup funds to take a company that charges five bucks for a cup of coffee would be willing to pay a little in taxes. i guess not. and a very very ugly w

up next is steve forbes.fter that we will be talking with matt bennett about gun background checks and gun sales in the u.s. mr. forbes coming from our studio in new york in just a few minutes after "washington journal" continues. [video clip] >> that they really started to get worried in the summer and fall of 1774. the british admirals and generals and diplomats were reporting to the crown that the colonists were sending ships everywhere to try to get ammunition and muskets and cannon. this was after the british had sent more troops to boston after the boston tea party and the so-called coercive acts, and it's clear that the colonists were pulling together ammunition and cannon. maybe they didn't intend to use it. that was a big debate. the king on october 1774 basically prohibited british ships from taking ammunition and everything to the colonies unless it was officially sanctioned. they were very alert to this. as soon as the colonies found out about the order prohibiting ammunition and munitions from be

forbes is out with its annual list of overpaid actors.ddie murphy plays high this year, coming in at number one. according to forbes, the actor has had a string of flops following the blockbuster shrek movies. forbes estimates for every dollar murphy is paid, the return on average for his last 3 films is $2.30.katherine heigl logs second with a return of $3.40. reese witherspoon is third at $3.90. sandra bullock at 4th with $5, and jack black rounds out the list at $5.20. still to come, how friction in washington is chipping away at the economy. chuck coppola has a report. but first, places to park your money in 2013 is next, with bill moller. in the eyes of the world, the u.s. is poised to become laggards instead of leaders if congress and the president fail to resolve the fiscal crisis beyond any short-term fix. in our cover story, that's how diane swonk, sr. economist at miserow financial, described the participants who, as swonk put it, "have not done what they need to do." diane swonk, sr. economist at mesirow financial, expects the

. >> this is important to us because nothing personifies what we do at forbes like our power list.e're about success and the impact of people who achieve success have. we have ten editors who get together. we draw on a huge bank -- >> they always agree on everything. don't they? >> exactly. there is some subjectivity, i must admit. they talk about the number of people that someone influences. the amount of financial resources that they have. how many spheres they operate in, are they just financial or are tle political or philanthropic. the fourth criteria is do they act on their power, do they use their power. and if you look at -- >> that's the reason why bill gates would rank so high here is how he has used some of his financial power in the philanthropic sphere. it was interesting to me, "forbes" magazine, leading business magazine, most storied one maybe of all -- >> i have no argument with that. >> and yet, no businessman in the top ten. highest ranking businessman, number 11, carlos slim of mexico. highest ranking u.s. businessman was warren buffett. i believe the third busi

david asbin is coming up on forbes on fox. you are watching all things news. you are watching fox and dave and now. well, liberal are fanning in america today pushing the president's agenda for tax increases with few if any spectaculars about spending cuts. many of these are specific about what they don't want cut and don't touch entitlement spending echoed by democraticic lawmake. >> i think social security should be taken off from the table. >> moment yoize social security or voucherize medicare or block grant medicaid you lose us. >> but the new forbes report showing that moreeople in the states are taking money from the government than the private sector, can our nation afford a deal that doesn't put so-called entitlements on the table. i am dave. we'll go t mike, to you. we have to put entitlements on the table? >> for the sake of the over all economy we must put enments on the table. over the last four years entitlement spending is growing faster than the over all economy. this is why president obama has this country in record debt. that hurt the economy

tim cook was number 35 on the forbes list. >>> finally, this is not a joke, people. though it began as one on facebook. pizza hut in canada has sent more than 100 bottles of pizza scented perfume to facebook fans. the fragrance smells like freshly based hand tossed dough. >>> coming up, newark mayor cory booker lives on food stamps. >>> the nfl steps in for jovan belcher's 4 month old daughter. plus high resolution images from space. it uses techniques that allows the images such as city laws, aur rar ras, wildfires, and moonlight be seen by the naked eye. >>> stories making news across america on this thursday. in washington state, a 35-year-old relationship was officially legitimized a short time ago as the clock struck 12:00 out west. they became the first same sex couple to receive a marriage license in the evergreen state, a fitting honor for the couple who was featured in the ad campaign to legalize same-sex marriage. >>> newark new jersey mayor core rebooker is gearing up for his food stamp challenge. he will be on a steady diet of beans and vegetables and wha

. >>> forbes is out with its 2012 most powerful people lest. president obama held onto the top spot for the second straight year. the pope climbed two notches from last year and landed in fifth place. facebook ceo mark zuckerberg tumbled from the top ten all the way to number 25. former president bill clinton held on to last year's ranking at number 50. tonight on rock center watch brian williams sit down with apple ceo, tim cook, number 35 on the forbes list by the way. >>> finally, this is no joke. though it began as one on facebook, pizza hut in canada has sent more than 100 bottles of pizza scented perfume to facebook fans. the fragrance boasts top notes of freshly baked hand tossed dough. pepper reason ri? >> new york mayor cory booker lives on food stamps. >>> the nfl steps up with $1 million for jovan belcher's daughter. >>> high res images from space. it allows images of city lights, gas flares, aur rar ras, to be seen by the naked eye. >>> stories making news across america on this thursday. in washington state, a 35 year relationship

>> well, more and more the "forbes" 400 come from the financial arena. got a huge economy and people that catch the crumbs falling off the table can make a lot of money. >> jon: that's an incredibly honorable way to describe them. (laughter) crumb catchers! (laughter) do you think we have a satisfactory domestic economic policy? >> well, i think what made america great is going to continue to work. but i think that, you know, the last year -- couple of years washington's kind of tested the patience of the rest of -- t -- but we've got 312 million people that i don't think 535 can impede their progress over time. >> jon: now, you guys have been friends for a long time. >> 45 years. >> jon: 45 years. he is -- i don't know, the eighth largest company or the -- >> i think it's seventh, actually. anyway, high. >> jon: and you're a very nice woman who's done very well for yourself. do you resent his success? (laughter) are you a -- when you talk to him, do you say "why don't you distribute the wealth?" >> that's the initial five minutes of every conversation w

. >>> forbes is out with the 2012 most powerful people list.bama held on to the top spot for a second year. the pope climbed two notches from last year. he is in fifth place. facebook's ceo mark zuckerburg went to number 25. former president clinton held on to number 50. and tonight be sure to watch brian williams sit down with tim cook. by the way, he's number 35 on the forbes list. >> finally, no, this is no joke. pizza hut in canada sent more than 100 bottles of pizza cented perfume to facebook fans. the fragrance boasts freshly baked hand tossed dough. >>> some optimistic news in the fight against breast cancer. women who took the common estrogen blocking drug tamoxofin cut the chance of getting breast cancer in half. >>> coming up, corey booker lives on food stamps. the nfl steps in with a million dollars for jovan belcher's orphan daughter and high resolution images of your planet earth from space. the new technology uses filtering techniques that allows the images such as city lights, gas flares, auroras, wildfires and reflecting moonlig

host: joining us now is the chairman and editor in chief of forbes media, steve forbes. he will be with us for the next 45 minutes to take your calls. let's start with where we started this morning on "washington journal." have you looked at the fiscal cliff and have you made plans or altered your 2013 spending as a business owner on this issue? guest: the answer is not yet. the big factor will be what happens in health care, which kicks in it in 2013 and 2014. you're kind of immobilize until we get a fix. we are moving ahead on the projects we are doing. people are being cautious. we hope this thing will be successfully resolved and that we do not go into a recession next year. host: how would you like to see this issue played out in washington? what is the best economic solution? guest: the best economic solution is to avoid raising taxes. the best we can hope for is that they kick the can down the road for a couple of months. you are not going to resolve entitlements in the next few days. some of these issues will take serious discussion. it will probably be february

talking with congressman randy forbes, i just arrived from the house floor for a vote.losed-door republican caucus meeting. we will find out if he voted in that caucus meeting. maybe he was not even asked to vote. you will find out. coming up tomorrow,ngresswoman s us, former reagan economic adviser, fortune magazine washington columnist among our guests. please be with us for all that and much more to marks. for tonight, stay with us because we're going to lay of the fiscal cliff proposals off. could anything be more exciting than that? the politics behind them with the "a-team" next. ♪ lou: well, my next guest was in a special closed-door republican conference meeting just held on how of the speaker's plan the approach is working out. joining us, congressman randy forbes, a member of the armed services committee, house judiciary committee and, as i said, has just left the republican conference with speaker of the house. what is the headline to one congressman? >> we are in the fourth quarter, and time is running out to fix this fiscal problem. i think you have to, fir

yesterday forbes put out its list of the most overpaid actors.our favorites to make the list, number seven, adam sandler apparently falling on hard times. he makes nearly $20 million a movie, which in itself is just unbelievable. but his last film, that's my boy, grossed under $40 million domestically. nick cage has been in ten movies the past few year, none made a mark. he brings in only 6 bucks for every studio dollar that they pay him. let's skip ahead to number two. katherine heigl brings in over 3 bucks. and eddie murphy, just $2 plu2 for every $1 paid. most have been less than memorable. do the titles meet dave, 1,000 words, or imagine that ring a bell? probably not. one man who is not struggling to bring in cash is jay-z. forbes estimates his net worth at 500 million bucks, but money does not always buy recognition. that rapper found out the hard way during a recent subway ride filmed for his documentary where i'm from. you never know who you'll be sitting next to on a new york city subway. >> are you famous? >> yes. not very famous becaus

we have steve forbes, chairman and editor and chief of forbes media and howard dean, former governor of vermont and also former chairman of the democratic national committee. great to have you both with us today. >> we'll stand back and let the political flack go at it. >> and have you eight minutes so a lot of time to go at it. first of all, steve, fantastic to see you. >> good to see you. >> what do you propose? >> first, they extend this thing for six months. the idea you're going to reform tax code and entitlement between now and christmas is preposterous and pike on taxes right now, putting extra taxes on the economy right now when we're slowing down in the fourth quarter. i was just in europe. they are in a deep recession. france and germany are going recession. japan's already in recession. they are doing the same thing the democrats want to do here. put on new taxes, and they are just putting their economies in a death spiral. >> this is no time for austerity is what you're argueing? >> what i'm arguing is don't put extra taxes on the economy. we know from europe and japan th

and finally, forbes has released its list of hollywood's most overpaid actors.pot went to eddie murphy who has had a string of recent flops. forbes estimated every dollar murphy was paid for his last three films, he returned $2.30 at the box office. number two, cath lynn katherine heigl. she sort of disappeared. >> maybe tv is where she should have stayed. look at me. >> bill, probably same advice for you. i'm lynn berry this is "first look." stay tuned, "way too early" starts right now. >>> stop this back and forth of offers. it's pretty clear the republicans aren't ever going to come it to the table with anything even remotely reasonable, so i'll be the one to say it. i know it will be disastrous. i know it will doom our economy. for years to come. but let's just go over the [ bleep ] cliff. fine. let's just go. just leave the negotiating tables and send us over the whichever. because you know why? at least for seconds, it will fe

eddie murphy tops forbes list of overpaid actors.ember back in 2007 he was actually nominated for an oscar for dream girls. his career was headed back up and then he blew it. >> somebody is admitting they saw dream girls. >> that was a great movie. >> what is it about? >> jennifer hudson makes her big -- she is overweight -- >> i don't care. >> i thought it was a girl version of "inception." >> i thought it was a little unfair. nicholas cage was number six on this list. even if they overpay him, he over acts so it is a wash. it just doesn't seem fair. >> it isn't fair. life isn't fair. >> once again i should be a judge. i know what is not fair. i am going to say goodbye to you and your cat bus. >> bye-bye. i thought he would never leave. coming up, can certain noises help you fall asleep at night. sandra smith on why she listens to the recorded sounds of children being bullied. first, is the end of the world nye 1234* "red eye" hits the streets to find out what the word nye means. >> any final thoughts, and i do mean final because >>

steve forbes. we'll talk to a mayor that actually won an award for cost cuttingnd revenue raisin issues. she has advice for the government to make a fiscal cliff deal. you want to stay tuned for this incredible story. >>> cyber thieves are going after your money. you better make sure our money is not wipe out @7 melissa: so if you thought the sigher attacks earlier this fall were scary wait until you hear this. mcafee labs has a new report saying a major bank hat atck is coming in the coming months and this time they're going for your money. it is called project blitzkrieg. get this, in early pilot program they have already stole $5 million from u.s. bank accounts. here to talk about how to protectour hard-earned cash. we have colonel layton, security analyst and former deputy director with the national security agency. colonel, welcome back to the show. i should say colonel cedric layton. >> my pleasure, melissa. great to be with you. melissa: break this down for me. what exactly is going on? >> w

talking with congressman randy forbes, i just arrived from the house floor for a vote.publican caucus meeting. we will find out if he voted in that caucus meeting. maybe he was not even asked to vote. you will find out. coming up tomorrow, congresswoman dianne black jois us, former reagan economic adviser, fortune magazine washington columnist among our guests. please be with us for all that and much more to marks. for tonight, stay with us because we're going to lay of the fiscal clif proposals off. could anything be more exciting than that? the politics behind them with the "a-team" next. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhars for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems

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joining us is the editor of " r "forbes."n the piece it says charles used to give his children sunday afternoon economics lectures. what do you think the lecture will be now that it appears speaker boehner and others may be forced to accept a tax hike on the rich? >> well, charles, when he lectured his children, he fancied himself more of a sucratic lecturer. if you look at the koch brothers, they are playing a game that's not measured in days or weeks or months or election cycles. they're playing a multidecade game. whatever is happening this week with the fiscal cliff, it's just one little blip in a multidecade goal to reshape how america looks politically, business. they are very philosophically focused and very, very disciplined, and very, very wealthy. >> the piece is to mark his 77th birthday, so he has been at it for some time. here is another interesting passage from your article. charles' many critics owe on the left, including the president of the united states, accuse him of accumulating too much power and using it

we have congressman randy forbes. >> let me ask you something.do you feel like a president actually wants this to happen so that it gives him some political ad vantage? >> i have to judge that by two things. first of all what i am hearing from my colleagues on the democratic leadership side they said they wanted to go over the fiscal cliff because we have argued all along they will start by simply taxing everybody over 250,000. they told me they wouldn vote fr anything that would tax everybody over 150,000. you take the president's actions. the president doesn't want to get an agreement or compromise he wants to get his way. he won't come to the table with any serious proposal because we can get a solution everybody can live with. >>> they have a bit of a messaging problem. i don't understand why there's not more of a conversation that starts with the fact these taxes go up. democrats would not extend what has been a republican proposal to keep them low. they are in place now and that's a republican package. if that doesn't happen the democrats t

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i really like tony's description in forbes, step one, compute your regular tax liability.tep two, compute your alternative minute tax liability. step three, take a generous pull of scotch and curse loudly. step four, pay the higher of step one and two. what is going to happen with the amt? >> the amt is really important. it might be one of the most important issues that people don't really dig into. we don't talk about it a lot in this conversation, but it does really hit home. people do get blindsided by it. they don't understand it and then it zaps them. i think it's pretty much on the table and to be determined, but it's depressing because washington has been talking about fixing the amt for a decade. >> at least. >> anything they pun, that's it. >> michael crowley from "time," thank you for joining up. coming up next, why s.e. says the current consideration on gun control needs to expand. >>> today we touched on three of the issues connected to the newtown tragedy, guns, a culture of violence, and mental hale, but despite those good efforts to take a comprehensive look