ford. in many instances, we have made agreements like in vietnam, that have been revealed later on to our embarrassment. recently, the president of rhodesia announced he had unequivocal commitments from mr. kissinger that he could not reveal. the american people don't know what those commitments are. we have seen in the past, the destruction of elected governments like in chile and the strong support of military dictatorships. these kinds of things have hurt us very much. i would restore the concept of the fireside chat which was an integral part of the administration of franklin roosevelt and i would also restore the involvement of the congress. heas not afraid to have a strong secretary of defense. strong secretary of state. but he also made sure there was bipartisan support from members of congress, part of the process. before our nation made a secret agreement, before we made a bluffing statement, we were sure that we had the backing not only of the president and the secretary of state,

ford. >> my question is the other side of the coin. for the -- for a generation, united states has had a foreign policy based on the containment of communism. we lost the war in vietnam, we lost a shoving match in angola. relations have generally cooled with the soviet union and the last few months. let me ask, what do you do about such cases as italy and does this general drift mean we are moving back towards something like a cold war relationship with the soviet union? pres. ford: i don't believe we should move to a cold war relationship. it is in the best interest of the united states and the world as a whole that the united states negotiate rather than go back to the cold war relationship with the soviet union. i don't look at the picture as bleakly as you have indicated in your question. i believe the united states has had many successes in recent years, in recent months as far as the communist movement is concerned. we have been successful in portugal where a year ago, it looked like

ford. >> my question really is the other side of the coin from mr. frankel. for a generation the united states has had a foreign policy based on the containment of communism. yet we have lost the war in vietnam, a shoving match in angola. communists threaten to come to power by peaceful means in italy and relations generally of cooled with the soviet union in the last few months. let me ask you first what you do about such cases and secondly it does this general drift mean we are moving back to something like an old cold war relationship with the soviet union? president ford: i don't think we should move to a cold war relationship. i believe it is in the best interest of the united states and the world as a whole that the united states negotiate rather than go back to the cold war relationship with the soviet union. i do not look at the picture is bleakly as you have indicated in your question. i believe the united states has had many successes in recent years and recent months as far as th

ford. >> mr. president, my question is the other side of the coin from mr. frankel's. the america has a look at basis of communism we lost the first war in vietnam, a shoving match in angola, communists have threatened to come to power in italy and have cooled in the last few months. what do you do about italy and does the general drift does it mean we're drifting back to an old cold war with the soviet union. >> i don't believe we should move to a cold war relationship. i think it's the best for the united states and the world as a whole, that the united states negotiate, rather than go back to the cold war relationship with the soviet union. i don't look at the picture as bleakly as you have indicated in your question, mr. trewhitt. i believe that the united states has had many successes in recent years, in recent months as far as the communist movement is concerned. we have been successful in portugal, where a year ago, it looked like there was a very great possibility that the communist

ford?> it was rather a discussion about what is the most important, but also what had public appeal? hopefully you can grow an interest in something that has both. as you say, mental health wasn't sexy enough for the press to follow it. maybe a more controversial issue or something is more popular, and that has to be taken into consideration in particular if you have an election coming up. i mean, that's politics. either that or give whatever you're interested in a twist that's going to appeal to the public. >> there would be, there are limits on the amount of time you could call on the president to nudge the agency or the -- the person -- i mean, even the first lady, i assume, can't ask the president to do it too often or can you? >> it didn't exactly work that way. we would sit on the truman balcony when the weather was bad or in his study which was next to the bedroom with a nice fair place in the wintertime. we'd talk about what he had done in the day and then we'd talk about what i had

steven ford.one of the children of gerald ford and when he was younger he was an actor and performed a lot of soap operas and he was a spokesman for a lot of racetracks. when i was a very young cub reporter in cincinnati, ohio working the sports scene there, steven ford would come through and he would run a horse race every year. terrific guy. you'll see him at the podium today delivering the eulogy that his father wrote in honor of jimmy carter. >> dana: it has never been released. never heard it before. i got to meet steven ford at his own father's funeral during the bush administration. you have seen as the president's row we are calling here. president and first lady's row. bill and hillary clinton, george and laura bush. barack obama, michelle not there today. president-elect trump and melania and in front of him we have the president and first lady, the bidens, and kamala harris and her husband, doug emhoff. bret baier, as we await for the procession to get underway additional thoughts from

and betty ford.deliver eulogies and steve ford spoke about how they asked each other to deliver each other's eulogies and i did not know who would outlive the other. of course, jerry ford died in 2006 so steve ford delivered his son -- his son delivered his eulogy. on the way back from air force one traveling back from australia for the funeral because at camp david he was assassinated for his commitment to peace by a militant critic and peace with israel. they decided very briefly about their legacy and as jerry ford wrote, steve ford delivered it and he said they forged a friendship that lasted and was spoken today and is only rival, thomas jefferson and john adams, rivals who became great friends and also made a commitment on that flight to help each other in each other's libraries and joint speeches partially to raise money and partially to promote peace. president ford said and this is so telling today, he wrote they made a commitment and went to the press and said they made a commitment to doin

with betty ford on a program proposal for first lady conference at the ford museum. and i really loved betty ford was very clear about her feelings with him. she said and she wrote him, she said, there needs to be a selling point. some purpose for holding the meeting other than getting first ladies together. should not just be a couple of days of ladies chitchat. she then decided the topic. it was going to be the first conference ever on first lady's and their unique contributions. modern first ladies, private lives and public duties. examining their contributions not just in terms of their husbands and the many roles they have to balance as a spouse, a mother and a first lady. the planners of the conference called them because they wanted to know if the doctor can handle doing the keynote speech. very emnant at the university of texas he did 500 lecture classes with 500 people all of the time. i actually had him for a lecture class. so, we assured him that yes he could be the keynote speaker. so, the conference was planned and he was designated the keynote speaker.

ford at, her 1984 conference here in grand rapids. these two events created a sea change in the way we think about and discuss first ladies both in the past, in the present day, both by academics and by the public. there are many ways to measure the rising interest in first lady studies since. but as time is limited, i must be very selective. so in the mid 1980s, a couple of years after dr. class a quartet of important books laid a foundation for the field first ladies by historian betty boyd. presidential wives american studies scholar paul butler and the president's partner by communications expert myra gutin. the fourth book was different. that's the one nancy made reference to. so nancy kagan smith and mary ryan edited modern first ladies. their documentary legacy. this book spelled out why archival documents should be located cataloged and made available to researchers so that we could deepen. and in cases begin the critical task of actually figuring out what it was. first ladies did, further spurring then were books and memoirs

ford: mr. chief justice, my dear friends, my fellow americans, the oath that i have taken is the same oath that was taken by george washington and by every president under the constitution. but i assume the presidency under extraordinary circumstances never before experienced by americans. this is an hour of history that troubles our minds and hurts our hearts. therefore, i feel it is my first duty to make an unprecedented compact with my countrymen. not an inaugural address, not a fireside chat, not a campaign speech, just a little straight talk among friends. and i intend it to be the first of many. i am acutely aware that you have not elected me as your president by your ballots, and so i ask you to confirm me as your president with your prayers. and i hope that such prayers will also be the first of many. if you have not chosen me by secret ballot, neither have i gained office by any secret promises. i have not campaigned either for the presidency or the vice presidency. i have not subscrib

it's a promise that ford made to carter, and carter made to ford. and carter, of course, outlived ford. so we're going to see that today. >> very, very moving examples of friendship. and i think of grace as we watch the motorcade carrying jimmy carter arrive at the national cathedral. let's go back to jake in washington. >> thanks so much, john. yeah, we're watching this very moving moment. it only happens every few years. and it is macabre to think about the fact that we will be doing it again sometime in the not too distant future. hopefully not. not soon. for one of the gentlemen sitting in the pews. we are reflecting on the life of jimmy carter, the life he led and his continued activism and john king. one of the reasons why i think there is such an outpouring of of love and respect for jimmy carter from all political corners, left, right, center and also the apolitical is because he continued to try to. there is some of the world leaders that you see justin trudeau, perhaps most notable in that pew, not having a particularly good week. prime mi

gerald ford. he'll read a eulogy that had been written by the late gerald ford, the one time president defeated by jimmy carter. they became very close friends across party lines for many years. both jimmy carter and gerald ford said that they would give eulogies at each other's funerals. obviously jimmy carter. long outliving gerald ford, reaching the age of 100. but we will hear today in an extraordinary moment what gerald ford wanted the country to know about his friend jimmy carter, the man who defeated him in 1976 for the presidency. there he is, steven ford right there again, about to deliver remarks written by his father, the late gerald ford. extraordinary moment for two men who were determined to have their words read for each other. >> before i start, the carter children. my wife and i were sitting several rows behind you and i. we were praying for you, and i was humbly reminded that it was 18 years ago, almost to the day that that our family sat in that very row and supporting my mom. a

carter delivered one of the eulogies at the ford funeral there. president biden will give one of the eulogies at the carter family's request. you're looking at live pictures of the capitol as they begin this ceremony. let's listen in. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> a majestic and somber ceremony befitting the 39th president of the united states. that hymn that you heard there was "my faith looks up to thee." the body bearer team began moving down those many steps through the east front of the capitol, where president carter was the last of our presidents to deliver his inaugural address from the east side of the capitol. it's now on the west side these days. the pallbearers have brought the casket into the hearse. you can see members of the color guard there and the family watching this entire procession. and then they will make their way down pennsylvania avenue and through our nation's capital to the washington national cathedral, that grand and beautiful cathedral one of the largest in the world where there will be more than 3,000 people

and that was gerald ford.when steven ford began speaking, reading the eulogy that his father, gerald ford, had written. i think all of us sat here and got chills. >> it was beautiful. steve ford said that they respected each other as adversaries, but cherished each other as friends. and i thought that was beautiful, that, you know, these are two men who didn't, on paper, have much in common. they grew close. they helped each other in the post-presidency, raised money for each other's libraries. gerald ford did some some work for the carter center. um, jimmy carter did some work for the ford library. and to me, it really makes the point that, as dwight eisenhower said, the country is far more important than any one of us. and i think that these former presidents, we saw that today. it was a rare moment where we see them coming together. and i think you can look at every single one of these men and make and make these comparisons. i mean, bush and obama, for instance, after bin laden was killed during the obama

and she became a beloved friend to my wife betty and me and all of the ford family.cidedly mixed record when it came to lobbying congress, rosalynn and betty were unbeatable in their advocacy for millions of people whom they brought out of the shadows of despair and shame. now is the time to say goodbye. our grief comforted with the joy and the thanks giving of knowing this man, this beloved man, this very special man. he was given the gift of years and the american people and the people of the world will be forever blessed by his decades of good works. jimmy carter's legacy of peace and compassion will remain unique as it is timeless. to the entire ford family, we extend our love to you and we add our prayers to the prayers of tens of millions of people around the world may god bless and watch over this good man. may he grant peace to the carter family as they say goodbye to a man whose life was lived to the fullest with a faith demonstrated and countless good works with a mission richly fulfilled and a soul rewarded with ever lasting life. as for myself, jimmy, i'm

president ford was nice enough to invite us out to look over the white house. but we had a lot of things to do. and i had a very clear concept of what i wanted to accomplish my first year, so we began immediately to put into practice carrying out the campaign promises and to drafting laws and getting acquainted with members of congress. he rosalynn: in the first inauguration with the parade, we went into the white house with our family and just kind of had a good time discovering the hidden doorway to the upstairs and lots of fun things. the next day, i think the first full day in the white house we stood in line for receptions and shook hands and invited people from all over the country. i think two days we did that. president carter: had to meet with all the members of the congress and their families and all the members of the cabinet and their families and the service leaders and their families and the officers and one of the most interesting things we did during the campaign, we didn't have any money compared to others and laid down a rule to anyone who sle

a tribute from former president gerald ford read by his son, steven ford, under way live here on c-span. >> we both married way above ourselves. [laughter] way above. with jimmy every step of the way was his first lady from plains, and a life rich with blessings, none was greater for jimmy than his -- the love he shared with rosalynn and the love the two of them shared with their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. like jimmy, rosalynn was and is a symbol of american compassion. rosalynn carter is indeed a true citizen of the world. and she became a beloved friend to my wife, betty, and me, and to all the ford family. while the carter and ford men were decidedly mixed record when it came to lobbying congress, rosalynn and betty were unbeatable in their advocacy for millions of people whom they brought out of the shadows of despair and shame. now is the time to say good-bye. our grief comforted with the joy and the thanksgiving of knowing this man, this beloved man, this very special man. he was given the gift of years and the american people and the people of the world will

gerald ford vetoed the 1974 amendment. and all for the good old days, the house and senate overwhelmingly overrode this veto. with republicans and democrats participating. i can only wish that support for strengthening these amendments in the coming months and years would be so overwhelming. let me just conclude on this note . the lobby for the 74 amendment was not just done by me and a few other civic advocates . from other groups. but we had young lawyers, many of them right out of law school who became so proficient in this that they were asked to testify before congressional hearings. donald morrison who is one of them, ruben robertson was another, joan clayborn was another. ron butler of course was another. and harrison well for. and robert vaughn who was later to become a professor of law at american university and expert on the whistleblowing laws which were encouraged by more freedom of information disclosures that located dissenters inside these federal agencies and departments, another collateral benefit of these

, he made a point of mending his relationship with gerald ford and brought him to the white house in several locations and after the presidency, even though ford was playing golf and not really doing the same kind of things on certain discrete projects they joined together and established this personal bond which carter didn't have with his other successors and he got along better with ford than he did with bill clinton and even barack obama. the each to promise -- promised one another that the one that would survive each would speak at the funeral and when gerald ford died, jimmy carter did the eulogy and now steve ford is returning the favor but to the pomp and circumstance point, i think he didn't want hail to the chief played and he later admitted to me that that wasn't so smart of him because he was kind of reducing the stature of the office but that was his natural inclination to be more modest in pretty much every dimension of his life but he also light to being recognized and appreciated. i think it was a good thing he lived long enough to see people reappraise him and his pr

gerald ford was a man of the congress and jimmy carter was a peanut farmer coming from georgia.nal relationship that really was over a decade same time. gerald ford had a very tough presidency as well. i think the two of them kind of vomited over that. i remember the early early days of the administration where carter would reach out and talk to not only gerald ford by other members of congress to really get an understanding. i think the family is doing a wonderful, wonderful service not only to the relationship, but also to a allowing all the other communities and people to come and be a part of the man and the people. that is really how he saw himself. >> john: seth, thank you for joining us for sharing thoughts about the former president. we really appreciate it. as we look at the motorcade to, a unique shot and i didn't know we were going to have this. this is the motorcade departing joint base andrews. i have driven there a number of times mos serves, the way to get back the parkway. and comes in southeast washington, d.c., passed the national stadium. and then wind their w

ford. mr. vice president, are you prepared to take the oath of office as president of the united states? i am sure. if you will raise your right hand and repeat me. i, gerald, for do solemnly swear. i, gerald ford, do solemnly that i will faithfully execute. that i will faithfully execute. office of president of the united states. the office of president. the united states. and will to the best of my ability and will to the best my ability. preserve, protect and defend and preserve and defend constitution of the united states. the constitution of the united. so help me god. so help me. ladies, gentlemen, the president of the united states. mr. chief justice, my dear friends, my fellow americans, the oath that i have taken is the same oath that was taken by george washington and by every president under the constitution. but i assume the presidency under extraordinary circumstances, never before express by americans. this is an hour of history that troubles our minds and hurts our hearts. theref

i remember with president ford he debt asked mike each dot it was bitter cold. just a bitter cold day here in washington. a lot colder than it was now. i remember with president reagan in june of 2004. i was standing on constitution avenue and it was a hot day. some of the members of the honour guard passed out. i remember some but he passed out because they were standing there for so long waiting for the caisson to come up capitol hill. that was a striking moment because here came the caisson and there were all these people gathered and there was a spontaneous applause honouring president reagan. there was no q, it was the national -- natural thing to do. we will have some moments like that but right now it's a moment of solemnity as they take is casket. we see some of the family members coming down the steps and that's why think we're getting closer to that 21-gun salute and then they will take the casket in. the other thing that's happening, it's starting to get dark in washington. i don't really remember these happening this late in the afternoon. we're goin

my best personal friend among all the previous presidents has been gerald ford.e and i worked intimately with each other, our families or friends. roselyn and his wife betty are friends. through his sons and children, we happen to meet them on a trip. i would say as far as personal relationships are concerned, mine was gerald ford has been, maybe even unprecedented in american history. this museum reflects a lot of your public life. is there a memorable personal moment that the two of you shared during your white house years? mrs. carter: i think if you are talking about if we think about something that happened that we did, the jimmy did as president or that i did i think the evening he came back from camp david was probably the most emotional one that we spent. i had come in for an event and jimmy called me and told me not to come to camp david because they had a settlement. so we were standing in the door facing the south lawn when the helicopter landed in the men came. when the prime minister came walking in he said mama, we will go down in history for this a

ford. mr. vice president, are you prepared to take the oath of office as president of the united states? i am sure. if you will raise your right hand and repeat me. i, gerald, for do solemnly swear. i, gerald ford, do solemnly that i will faithfully execute. that i will faithfully execute. office of president of the united states. the office of president. the united states. and will to the best of my ability and will to the best my ability. preserve, protect and defend and preserve and defend constitution of the united states. the constitution of the united. so help me god. so help me. ladies, gentlemen, the president of the united states. mr. chief justice, my dear friends, my fellow americans, the oath that i have taken is the same oath that was taken by george washington and by every president under the constitution. but i assume the presidency under extraordinary circumstances, never before express by americans. this is an hour of history that troubles our minds and hurts our hearts. theref

they wanted the podium to sit in front of gerald ford's statue. as people make their remarks tonight. this is a nod to the deep and close personal friendship carter had with president ford. an odd couple as they were sometimes known. this underlies bipartisanship in the way the family wants jimmy carter to be remembered as reaching across the aisle. and perhaps this is also a message to the nation watching as carter returns to a much different washington than he left. let's listen in. yes. to give you an indicationf former president carter was really a gentleman from a different era. he was a member of the naval academy class of 1947. think about that. the class of 1947. and graduated in 1946 as part of an accelerated wartime program. now, some more background information on the history of lying in state at the capitol. a grand total of 34 people have lain in this in state in the capitol rotunda that includes 12 presidents. the late president carter becomes the 13th to lie in state. others have lain in state in the capitol building, such as late s

when you compare it to ford, they look great. so ford definitely tried to turn their mix around. you have ford, the f1350, silverado with "fast money'. gm has done a masterful job with throttling evs, giving public what they want versus what they think they should want as the government has tried to cram down lately. but when you look at rivian, rivian's always running out of money. their burn rate is about $1 billion per quarter. right? and first of all, i don't know what you show as shortage. i show 15%. >> 19, yeah. >> between 15 and 20%. that gives you the 25% spike every time you get a sniff of less bad news. but you are always going to have to be borrowing money from someone every quarter or two -- if you have between 6 and 8 billion and you are burning a billion a quarter, that's simple math. >> i am seeing more rivians around, it's a nice looking car. >> yeah. it's a good looking car. tim, jump in on the car stocks. >> well, i think gm and profitability, it trades almost sub five times earnings. i think you stay long in the stock. to rivian, their partners and volkswagen

and jerry ford signed onto that. and to me, the poignancy of that and of course, the looming instance of that. and something for the palestinians, can be achieved, you know, even the first phase of it, before january 20th, when president-elect trump is inaugurated. and that, of course, was so moving, see being the five presidents, seeing president- elect trump joking with barack obama sitting next to him, was quite a moment. >> i asked about two moments. one, of course, was that president biden did deliver a eulogy today. and that request was made several years ago, by carter himself. so that was behind the podium. but in the seats, a lot of attention going into an exchange. we don't know exactly what it was, between former president obama, and the incoming president, donald trump, smiling, even seemingly to laugh. talk about those emtwo moments, would you? >> yeah, the pews you speak to. this was remarkable to see these four former presidents and the current president, effectively sitting side by fe side. and a lot

and then lifelong friend gerald ford.te december, as president carter did just a few weeks ago. and that eulogy, written decades ago and read eloquently by his son. and, coming up next, we are going to hear from ted mondale, the son of walter mondale. he also has written a eulogy that he did not live to liver himself but we will hear his words and the national cathedral as living presidents look on to this historic moment. >> my father wrote this in 2015 and clearly he edited it a couple times since then but here we go. today, we join in sadness to honor our dear friend president carter for his extraordinary years of principled and decent leadership and his courageous commitment to civil rights and human rights. i remember the emergence of jimmy carter on the national stage. in particular, his 1971 inaugural address. for the first time, a georgia governor called for a commitment to the traditions of martin luther king jr. and for the decency that his leadership stood for over his lifetime. i was surprised when then- candi

he went on to defeat gerald ford in a close general election. the film is courtesy of the jimmy carter presidential library and museum. it is about 15 minutes. >> jimmy carter's rang for what? i'm running for president. >> jimmy carter entered the race a political unknown. outside of georgia hardly anyone recognized his name. but that is about to change. >> jimmy who? >> jimmy carter. >> i don't know who he is. >> i've got nothing against him. looks to me all right. he is a democrat, right? >> he is a people's men. he is sexy. >> what do you mean by that? >> i have never thought of jimmy carter as sexy. i think if it comes down to it people would say gerald ford is sexy, because he was a foot wall player. i think he is a very nice man. >> i think he has a nice smile. >> how do you do? >> i heard he was a peanut farmer. >> i don't think it makes any difference whether he is a peanut farmer or not. there is nothing wrong with peanuts as far as i'm concerned. >> one of the working people, one of the common people. >> ladies and gentlemen, it gives

and then over here is the ford excellent ox. there is a mandate. the president biden put in, in order to require it by 2030 to $2.00 thirds of us vehicles would be electric and, and 46 percent of light trucks like these in europe that mandates even stricter by 2035, all vehicles would have to be non carbon monoxide produce and you can see our test track over here. we've just been a couple of days here. as you can see, i'm gonna go shading around. people yesterday was a media day to day. this is a public day. so we put together a package on exactly what is happening and what makes this car show different than those in previous years. take a look. 321, go. the auto industry has been on a historic role. lower availability during the pandemic, cent price is surgery. but what goes out a must eventually come down the industry's heading from record sales in 2024 to an uncertain future in 2025. so the north american international auto show in detroit is turning its focus from glitzy new car introductions and recent years. to the consumer, the car shoppers

two-plus years ago we did a bunch of interviews so carnegie was making the steel for ford's cars, fordng wages so his workforce could buy the cars. rockefeller was refining the gasoline to fuel the cars. edison was making the electric light bulb to illuminate the homes, factories and office buildings at the end of the automobile destination, and the wright brothers were launching aviation. charles: yes. larry: it doesn't get better than that. >> this gets a very important point. free markets weren't allowed to operate, always turned scarcity into abundance and the early 1900s a typical car in todays style cost about $120,000. henry ford with the moving assembly line turned a toy for the rich into something every working person could afford. that happens time and time again. you look at your handheld, the supercomputer, first one came out from motorola in the early 1980s, $3,995. weighed like a brick, size of a shoe box, one hour of battery life, now today, it's more than telephony, a supercomputer in your hand. if you told people years ago grandma could run a supercomputer, you get a v

you know, susan ford ford said she didn't want to go live in the white house, giving up her blue jeans. you know, mrs. ford said, all right, i'll go if i have to, but i'm too old to change and to have to take this as i am. the ford kids went on with life as though were still in their house. i don't think there's any example in the whole history of the white house that i can think of that people seem less impressed personally by by all. that was in many ways the great strength that the boards brought to the white house that they were like us. and at a time when the house was in many ways staying by scandal and and public unrest, president ford also makes change to the white house that lasts until today. he removes the oval office secret system that plays a role bringing down his predecessor, president ford. amenity took office ordered all the tapes ripped out of oval office, which of course, had been in there since the and wasn't honored. he found out later that they had not been removed and hit the ceiling big time called the engineers in his presence and had it all torn out like they

alert that year he defeated president gerald ford in a close general election. the film is courtesy of the jimmy carter presidential library and museum. it is about 15 minutes. >> this from 1974 there feels a major headline on the editorial of the atlanta constitution that said jimmy carter is running for what? [cheers and applause] >> i'm running for president. >> jimmy carter entered the democratic presidential race a political unknown outside of georgia hardly anyone recognized his name. but that would change. >> jimmy who? >> jimmy connor? >> i don't know who he is. >> he is a baseball player isn't he? >> looks to me like he is all right. >> he is a people's man. he is sexy if >> what do you mean about that? >> i never taught of jimmy carter as sexy. i think they would say more that gerald ford is sexy because avenues football player. carter sexy? i just think's nice man. >> he has a nice smile. how do you do. >> what you have fly being all around. i heard he was a peanut farmer. i don't think it makes any difference whether he is a peanut farmer or not. the

larry: henry ford doubledded the wages of ford motor company from about two and a half bucks, like $1,900ink of it that way to about five bucks so they could afford to buy -- >> an eight hour day from 12 to eight hours and five days a week. larry: and they bought the model t ford and traveled all over as the roads and bridges were built. the left wingers always call this the robber barons. these were great people. i mean, carnegie, rockefeller, morse, edison. can i just read this paragraph? charles: sure. larry: i wrote this for fox nation, two-plus years ago we did interviews so carnegie was making the steel for ford's cars. ford was raising wages so his workforce could buy the cars. rockefeller was refining the gasoline to fuel the cars. edison was making the electric light bulb to illuminate the homes, factories and office buildings at the end of the automobiles destination, and the wright brothers were launching aviation. okay? >> and this gets a very important point. free markets weren't allowed to operate, always turned scarcity into abundance, and the early 1900s, a typical car in