of the warranty if you lookrs at a high-end data of a 100,000-mile warranty but if you look at ford or gmdy will pay when at the car needs work it is simple math that means you don't rent more than 36 months you go 10 or 15,000 miles if you drive less then 10,000 then forget the of these it will never we could be enough if you drive more than 15,004 get the lease on the car becauseon just maintain its.th but of though window between 10,000 or 15,000 miles lookare at at the incentives there argreat deals but don't be tricked in buying the 39bu month lease for those three months if there is a problem is audio.s, gerri: let's talk aboutlet' electric cars it is a goodle idea? >> if you consider the hybrid or electric vehiclebri only 20 percent of the united states ison eligible for those discounts youmu might be making too much money so check with ank accountant you know how to figure that out but take that information to look at those municipalities takers those a discounts then makehat your decision. with a date -- with the least at the end of the three years technology is constantly evolvi

people feel you need to pick one, ford or gm? they've both had the rallies, you see the growth continuing for next year? >> i do. i do. i think gm is at this point cheaper. the analogy is like the delta-united. delta is like the ford. they're there about a year, year and a half ahead of the other two. i think gm's got a way to go. you had a lot of -- it was underowned for the first part because of the government motors. they've got more restructuring to go, more costs to pull out, but ford has great products, and gm's getting there. >> is europe really the wild card there where they get the kicker in the growth, or is the u.s. enough to carry? >> europe, if it starts turning around, which we're seeing some baseline growth starting, you'll see it in the fords, gms, and also in the auto suppliers. delphi has 40% of its revenue coming from europe. that could be a good base to grow from while the rest of the world is pulling you along, as well. >> can you tell us why ebay is one of your top picks for 2014? >> if you look at everybody

i would much rather be in a john sewn controls than a ford or gm for that matter the i've been long ford for a good part of the year. now, gm is a better place to be than ford. i would rather be in jci than both of them. johnson controls has a strong setup into 2014. i think you'll see a lot of margin expansion. a lot of pent-up demand. and i think that's one of the top sectors to be in for the first half of next year. >> scott, the one name, goodyear tire. that continues to work, because it's part of the whole story you're talking about in the autos. >> from trades that have worked to one that certainly has not, and that's gold. it will go down as the year's worst. but our next guest is sticking by the much-maligned metal. rick rule is chairman of sprot u.s. holdings, and live in san diego. welcome back. good to have you on. >> thank you very much for having me again. >> worst trade of the year. why are you standing by your man? >> i think that one's pretty simple. i think the fundamentals are pretty good. if you're a momentum trader, you don't want to be anywhere near it. a fundamental

more than half are from ford, chrysler, or gm. the others were built in u.s. plants owned by japanese, korean and german automakers. the biggest increase are to companies outside north america. there are still more imports to the u.s. but the gap is shrinking. >>> federal statistics show airline delays and cancellations are down in the last dozen years. a government watchdog says that's because the department of transportation is only looking at the 16 biggest airlines. they handle only three-quarters of all domestic flights. and major airlines have allotted more time for every major flight. >>> it was a fantastic weekend for fantasy. "the hobbit: the desolation of smaug" was number one at the box office for the third weekend in a row. it was the top film on christmas day. for the weekend, it took in $30 million. disney's "frozen" right behind it with $29 million. and "anchorman 2," which we deny is anything but fantasy was third. with $20 million. >> tote pli fake. >> completely and totally fake. that kind of stuff never happens in a real news room. >> just s

or flooring. there is demand there they haven't redesigned gm or ford trucks in a while. gh margin items for gm and ford to sell. i think they will see big domestic demand as the contractor business recovers. not a direct play per se. i like autos generally. that is one. tools, gm or ford. david: investors place.com jeff reeves. liz: very cute. here are mine. can you imagine buying a pair of chic eyeglasses, including prescription lenses under 100 bucks? david: really? liz: doing good at the same time. corporate conscience coming up. we'll have the parker founders just how they are doing it. david: unbelievable. they are expensive glasses. spotify meanwhile, have you ever heard about exactly how much they pay for some of their propertys? it is pitiful, pathetic some would say. dennis kneale will at details coming right up. ♪ as a busess owner, i'm constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the spark cascard from capital one, i get 2% cash back on ery purchase, every day. i break my back around here. finally soone's re

have a question for you, because we have been talking about these rumblings, these rumors, that gm or ford in taking on a tesla, perhaps with an acquisition. what do you think? is there even any kind of shot in heck, that that would happen? >> pretty tough scenario to happen for two reasons, we showed the short interest, basically in tesla, and 40% out there is shorting the stock, it's hard for a company to come in and say, well, i really like the valuation here. if 40% of the shares are outstanding and other people out there think it's overvalued. number two, tesla sells out, they diminish their name. it's cool the tesla name has innovation itself. you think of the electric car, the name of tesla. you sell that to gm. now you sort of diminish the value. then put on top of that, you have a ceo that's a billionaire, basically, going to sell out his ego to a big player like gm. i doubt that happens. i probably think that eli musk wants to see this through. >> there's the take on gm versus anybody buying out tesla. thanks for that. up next, this chart is history in the making, because the con

or oil, maybe something else? then there's a tesla two fer. ever wonder what resale value for an electric car is. we'll find out. shouldn't gm or ford our panel weighs in. crazy ideas for how to solve amazon's shipping problems. back to sara and tyler on "power lunch." >> all right. looking forward to it. dominic chu. meanwhile the nasdaq another 13-year high earlier today for pairing its gains a little in the session. big movers out there, we go to sheila dharmarajan, breaking the hot streak for the nasdaq. >> that's right. it's the last friday of 2013 and typically fridays are good for the nasdaq. for the past 12 fridays in a row we have seen gains, but today we are breaking that streak, both the nasdaq 100 and composite down about a third of a percent but look for the week we are still higher, higher by about 1%. now one of the reasons we are seeing some pressure on the nasdaq has to do with big cap techs like amazon and apple, both taking a breather putting a little bit of pressure on the nasdaq. also got to talk about social media. the big twitter downgrade having the halo effect on names like facebook, linkedin and groupon. fi

have a question for you, because we have been talking about these rumblings, these rumors, that gm or fordking on a tesla, perhaps with an acquisition. what do you think? is there even any kind of shot in heck, that that would happen? >> pretty tough scenario to happen for two reasons, we showed the short interest, basically in tesla, and 40% out there is shorting the stock, it's hard for a company to come in and say, well, i really like the valuation here. if 40% of the shares are outstanding and other people out there think it's overvalued. number two, tesla sells out, they diminish their name. it's cool the tesla name has innovation itself. you think of the electric car, the name of tesla. you sell that to gm. now you sort of diminish the value. then put on top of that, you have a ceo, that's a billionaire, basically, going to sell out his ego to a big player like gm. i doubt that happens. i probably think that they want to see this through. >> there's the take on gm versus anybody buying out tesla. thanks for that. up next, this chart is history in the making, because the consumer disc

in tesla because they're looking at it purely as automobile stock and looking at it compared to gm or a ford or an audi or a volkswagen. >> that's a problem with it, frankly. it is an auto company. they need infrastructure in terms of dealership and service stations, despite the fact they say they're easy to service. so they need that. and guess what? they're overvalued on any metric. bmw put $35 billion into their manufacturing facilities over the last number of years. ha that dwarfs tesla's investment. you'll see cheaper, efficient cars copping out. we still don't know about tesla's potential recall because of the fires for the undercarriage. >> what do you like. >> holding, folding? >> i have to disagree with my friend mr. weiss there. a lot of strong momentum in the social media stocks, yelp, facebook, secular trend too strong in 2014. we're seeing a dip now. i think materials space looks very good. talked about on the show, my favorite pick next year fedex, that's the best way to play a global economy. folding them, multinationals, honey welles, ges. >> industrials. >> industrials, rath

ford has a pe of about 1155. gm has a pe of about 15 and there is no way in the world gm should have any higher pe than ford does. so either one's coming down or the other one's coming up---and i think ford is going up. > >how far up? what would be your price target and would you have a stop involved in this trade? > >i would look at ford at least up to 21 by the end of the year. with most stocks i have a physical stop in there. this one i only have a mental stop because it tends to jump around a little bit. if it should get down to that low 15 level i'm gonna have to start paying attention to it and decide whether or not i want to get out of the position. > >sounds like you are bullish on that stock. moving now to oil. oil jumped yesterday. what is that telling you? > >oil i think is a function of when the fed said or when the talk was that the fed may taper, people are believing that economy is stronger and that's why the fed would taper. so i think oil is gonna be tied to the economic numbers we have. stronger economic numbers are going to drive that price up a little bit. the ism number came out strong. it was one of the strongest we've se

andy, large price-to-earnings ratio worse than ford or toyota. we'll see what gmg year. but when you shut down a plant, not necessarily bad news. adam: clear the inventory. those numbers were higher than what we saw before bankruptcy. that's not good. jeff flock, thank you. cheryl: stay with the automotive theme right now. electric cars may save you money on gas but won't be saving you money when it comes time to sell them. resale value, turns out electric vehicles deappreciate in value fatser than other cars. for example, a nissan leaf sells for only 15% of original list price after five years. similar non-electric vehicle, nissan century sells a bit more, 36% of salt you. tell last owners may less to fear. musk said he would personally back for those purchased with tesla's financing program. big gamble but he has been smart so far. he made great gambles. adam: put your money where your mouth is. he does. cheryl: just did. adam: more retailers offering huge after christmas discounts. are you shopped out or will you take advantage of them. are you shopped out? che

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gm is recalling 1.5 million cars in china, but also a report in "usa today" that either gm or ford coulddown in today's session. the dow up 6 points. back to you. >> thank you for that mary thompson on the floor. >>> as you know by now, colorado is rolling forward with retail marijuana sales. how are the growing businesses preparing for the january 1 rush of recreational buyers? we want to bring in tony, the owner of river rock, a denver-based medicinal marijuana outfit, that will be adding recreational products in the new year. tony, good to have you. good morning. >> thanks for having me. good morning. >> how hard was it to get the recreational license? >> it's been a -- [ sighs ] -- it's been a long process. [ laughter ] we had to go through the medical licenses pro session, and that took about -- process, and that took about three years and the lawmakers from the state and city level spent a lot of time and carefully detailed the applications respectively for both and put through a process that was pretty rigorous, and at the end of the day, they wanted to ensure that the qualified a

or not? >> no, i'm telling you when you see what bmw come up with the i3 and i8 product line, ford has electric, gmctric. everyone has electric cars. there are not only game in town there are high performance vehicles in electric. i think they have a lot of competition. they still have -- david: i don't have an electric car, lauren. >> neither do i. david: i want to push back. none. electric cars has the luxury tesla does. fisker did but i'm talking about the ones in the running. >> you've got bmw you have to admit. audi has the etron i drove. i say impressive product. germans know how to come on strong. david: they do, they do. they know quality as well. jeff, lauren, great stuff guys. thank you very much. appreciate it. liz: cyber monday sales are in. the numbers may stun you. you may be really surprised to hear how much of shopping was actually done on tablets and cell phones. we've got the very latest numbers on that next. david: also president obama launching a pr offensive to try to win over sceptics and opponents of his health care overhaul and bump up his approval rates but will it work? le

or 4 years with the tarp. that was general motors and when chrysler did take tarp money. ford never took any tarp money. breaking news on gmtime for a quick speed read of some of the day's other headlines, five stories, one minute. galaxy brand holdings carlyle group company is purchasing linen 'n things. linen 'n things went bankrupt in 2008. before being recreated as a e-commerce site a year later. >> time warner is reportedly delaying the spin-off of time, inc. from 2014 to later this year. this because of time, inc.'s poor performance last quarter and its expected performance this quarter. >>> microsoft has deals leading up to christmas and customers need to facts because supplies are limited. the promotion is 12 days of deal. they could get a dell tablet for only 99 bucks. >>> over past two weeks the price of gasoline increased by 3 cents a gallon according to "the lundberg survey." the price of regular gasoline is $3.29 a gallon. >>> king, the company behind the candy crush popular game fears the company is too popular. it is delaying the ipo until next year hoping to prove it is not a one-hit wonder. that is today's

ford f-series truck. there is depend whether you're looking at malibu cars or looking at trucks. there is a disparate product mix, not just at gmutomakers as well. adam: some. sectors you think will do particularly well in 2014, where would you guide us? >> well, in a slower growth environment, and would i argue that three to 3 1/2% growth while it is under trend for this phase of the business cycle, it is simple but sustainable and i think that is a sweet spot for the equity markets. when you start getting gdp growth at 6, 7, 8, 9% is when bubbles develop. 3 to 3 1/2% gdp growth is slower than trend in that growth environment. true growth stocks i think will outperform and growth stocks tend to be clustered in technology and health care. adam: let me ask you about some analyst west had on previously who think we have overvalued the s&p 500, that stocks are not, what you want to be buying right now. why are they wrong? >> well, they're looking at things like the case-shiller pe, which, in a normalized environment, has been a pretty good measure of valuation. but i would argue, it is backward looking. it uses the past 10 years e

ford dropping more than 7% today, gm on the other hand, has been moving higher. back to you. >> all right. phil, thank you very much. >>> power pitch time. 60-second pitch. panel of judges up orown vote. today, the agony or ecstasy of the feet. >> i'm mandy drury. on today's power pitch we have a company turning shoot industry on its heel by letting the customer, yes, you, become the designer. door reyan how werds is the ceo of milk and honey. she worked in the entertainment industry at nickelodeon, disney and paramount pictures. let's see her step it up in the power pitch. >> my name is dory howard and the co-founder of milk and honey. it's an e-commerce platform that allows women to create their perfect shoes. after years of not finding presigsly what we wanted, my co-founder who's also my older sister and i developed a manufacturing system that allows us to create made-to-order shoes at sale. our customers come to our website and choose a silhouette, toe shape, strap options, embellishments, color, material and finally heel height to create their perfect shoes. in four to six weeks that unique creation is delivered to their doorstep. for the woman who needs a little help i