at fordable care act, aka obamacare, aka the socialist take over of america's colons.e its way to the supreme court for three days of intricate legal discussion of the constitutionality of the health care mandate. i don't think that is going to be interesting. (laughter) 24 hour news network you can sell it? >> day one of an epic health care showdown. >> this is a massive day in american history wants epic legal battle. >> the most important legal debate in years. >> just how big a deal is this on a scale of, like watergate and bush v gore. >> probably the two of them together jses. >> jon: i'm must see this on sunday, sunday, sunday. you had me at bigger than watergate. you know why justice is blind, she stared directly into the solar system, that big. like everything that occurs in this country americans can be divided-- did you enjoy that? (laughter) >> jon: all day long we spend trying to disstill three days of supreme court arguments into digestible bites and hot, hot docket, that's the thing. i have eaten those-- oh, wait a minute. the spelling is different, ther

at fordable care act is a mechanism for the federal government to basically control everything in our lives, whether it's what kind of food we eat, what kind of car we drive, anything else. if obama care, if the affordable care act goes into full force, kathleen sebelius can be a tyrant in a skirt. just dictating to us every american across this country how we can live our lives and use health care as the os pisses of their government control. it must be ripped out by the roots and replace wtd something like my patient option act which would truly give patients the option. it's a market based patient centered health care program that will literally lower the cost of health insurance for everybody. and it will take care of the people that who uninsured today and make a lot of people who can't afford insurance, be able to buy it at a price that they can't afford. so that's the kind of policy that we need to go to. i believe very firmly that anyone of the four would sign a bill like my patient option act. >> let's get to phone calls here for you. rose is a republican. she's in california

. >> congress confronted a grave problem when it enacted at fordable care act. 40 million americans who can't get health insurance and suffer some often very terrible consequences. now we agree, i think everyone arguing this case, agrees that congress could remedy that problem by imposing insurance requirement at the point of sale. that won't work. the reason it won't work is because people will still show up at the hospital or at their physician's office seeking care without insurance, causing the cost-shifting problem, and mr. clement's suggestion that they can be signed up for a high-risk pool at that point is utterly unrealistic. think about how much it would cost to get the insurance when you are at the hospital or at the doctor. it would be -- it would be unfathomably high. that will never work. congress understood that. it chose a means that will work, the means that it saw worked in the states, in the state of massachusetts, and that -- and that it had every reason to think would work on a national basis. that is the kind of choice of means that the constitution leaves to the de

central issue that the court will take up this week. 26 states are bringing the legal challenge to at fordable care act. it was two years ago that president obama signed the bill into law. contes -- opponents say it will raise prices to everyone. s upporters say it is the only way to assure universal health care for everyone. july4th seep jurists appointed by both republicans and democrats uphold the law. so we're confident that it will be constitutional. our focus right now, there is will be a process play out and then the supreme court will deliberate. >> this is extremely expensive. families won't have a choice. they will be forced to buy an insurance product that the government tells them they have to purchase. if they don't, they have to pay a fine to the federal government. this is absurd. it has never happened before in the history of the country. >> reporter: but before we can get to the central argument, the first argument of the day will focus on whether it is even appropriate for the supreme court to hear this case at this point. it all has to do with that tax that congresswoman bac

making tough cuts to programs we can't afford and strengthen medicare building on ate fordable care acts policies. democrats have long been willing to make the difficult choices that a balance approached demands. our nation's values are not reflectsed in a budget that places the heaviest burden on the backs of working families but one that invests in fairness and shared responsibility. today we have a choice. to defeat this reckless republican budget and to adopt proposals that better reflect our nation's values of fairness and shared responsibility and make the investments necessary to make sure that we have a vibrant and dynamic and prosperous nation into the future. i yield back. >> thank you, mr. yarmouth, and i think you made our closing argument very well, framed the choices and made it clear that question is not whether we develop a plan to reduce the deficit subpoena the question is whether we do it in a way that's balanced and calls for shared responsibility. with that, mr. chairman, we conclude our remarks. >> all right. thank you. well, we will now proceed with the considerati

of how much this is actually going to cost a person to let people know that it's going to be ay fordable? like, for instance, citizen y is 46 years old. the insurance is going to cost $100 or so a month for the premium. why aren't they doing this. how much of a subsidy is citizen y going to end up getting? all they can do is say from the very beginning if you're under 26 you'll be covered under your parents' health insurance. you can't be you know, turned down for presifting conditions and that's all they sended up doing to sell it. so there's a lot of confusion out there, about how much is this really going to cost? i have an aging parent that's elder -- a senior citizen, and, you know, she's been healthy upping in 2011, and you know she was diagnosed with p.a.d. peripheral artery disease and had a number of procedures. >> sean, we have to wrap this up here. go ahead and make your concluding statement, if you wou would. >> caller: yeah. i'm really not for this mandate. >> we got the point. sean from claremont, florida. across the street from the supreme court on the capitol law, the rep

on the supreme court and the oral arguments that were given pertaining to the health care law the fordable care act so now the waiting begins for what the justices will decide so today while we wait for that mike to highlight another case that's coming up on april twenty fifth so the court is going to hear arguments to decide the fate of what was just the first in a spate of strict immigration laws to sweep states across the nation arizona's s.b. ten seventy now lower courts have blocked portions of this bill perhaps most importantly the papers please that provision that would allow police to check the immigration status of anybody they suspect of being in the country illegally a provision that very widely opens up the door for discrimination based on how somebody looks thing is and the supreme court is going to be deciding if the federal government is right and saying the immigration law as a whole is their domain and not that of the states and so this is where we really have to look at the past to see why current warnings make sense it's been nearly seventy years since the supreme court

we can get away with it what will the market bear and so the thing that's so important about the fordable care act that obama passed is that you know limits that discrimination it says women must have maternity care and women must be charged the same as men now let's think about what the what we want in this country do we want to have healthy children do we want to have prenatal care if we want the mothers to be taking care of well if you call ryan the answer is. you know and so we think about some of the insanity that's going on right now. if it's bad for the long term health of the nation and when i see states passing legislation these these this intrusive these unnecessary expensive ultrasounds and it's the same folks proposing that legislation that are pushing back on women even having maternity care pushing back on women not being charged more than men and they are the same people who don't want to take care of the children when they're born what on earth is going on it's crazy that's a that's a legitimate question let me let me just ask you that what is this massaging is this fear o

and fordable energy, which they are not getting under this administration. >> greta: i am cure yews, press secretary did not ask secretary chu to dial it back. i would asked a follow-up question, did the president tell the chief of staff to dial it back? i never sort of -- i mean, i can't imagine that the president doesn't want him to dial back what he is saying? >> the president's policies have caused the page panic in the white house because the price of gas has gone up 30 cents in 30 days and has doubled since barack obama has become president. there are things we can do to lower the cost of gasoline. but the president just on thursday, greta, was on the phone, lobbying the senate to vote against the keystone excel pipeline, to bring oil from canada to the united states, puts 20,000 american workers back to work. the economy -- we have over 8% unemployment and high gas prices and the president is still fighting us working toward american energy security. >> greta: thank you. sorry to cut it short. a lot of news tonight. coming up, are two world leaders giving a new meaning to marc

we know that the major sort of changes in this piece of proposed legislation, repealing at fordable careeducing tax brackets to 1 in 25%, reteeling the alternative minimum tax and reducing the corporate tax rate. there are a lot of questions. >> the biggest one, we had paul wry on "squawk" we couldn't get an answer, how do you pay for all of this? >> exactly. >> exactly which loopholes are being closed? so on mortgage interests, what's going to happen? by the way, there is no answer. it's not in the plan. you can't read it anywhere. you can't find out. maybe you know the answer. he done even know the answer. >> he has all of the answers. >> he wants to go back -- this is paul ryan speaking -- he wants to go back and find answers. there's some real questions. this is christmas in mar fch you're a democrat. it's silly season. this is not going anywhere fast. he's put something out. democrats have not put something out, so that's interesting. on the other hand, this is a talking point. it will get people talking. maybe give him credit for just that alone. >> forrer speak or of the house nan

so-called severability which means if the individual mandate is struck down, does the rest of the fordable care act go with it. and the takeaway i had from that argument is the individual mandate looks pretty doomed to me because anthony kennedy so often the swing vote clearly i think the swing vote here was asking question after question based on the assumption that the court would strike down the individual mandate and even more incredibly to me he and several other justices were raising the serious possibility that the rest of the law would go with it thousands of pages of law-- some of it clearly constitutional and not even that controversial-- that may go with it according to at least some of the justices and maybe a majority. >> rose: in other words if i can paraphrase, they seem to indicate a reluctance to pick and choose among the provisions of the law whether one was constitutional or not? >> that's exactly right. the justices on the conservative side, the ones who had trouble with the individual mandate standing on its own which was what the main argument was on tuesday, they wer

. >>> in less than three hours the supreme court will hear arguments on at fordable care act, the bill two years ago by president obama. 26 states are challenging the law and arguments are scheduled over the next three days. first up today, should the case be heard at all or wait until 2015 after the individual mandate portion takes into effect. the obama administration feels good about their chances on this case. >> we're confident it will be upheld. you had democratic and republican jurorists held it in two decisions. >> republicans are hoping for a different outcome. >> the process was bad, the substapts gone over like a lead balloon. the vice president whispered to the president when he signed the bill two years this is a big f-ing deal and now it's a big f-ing mess for the country a whole. >> kind of too early for that talk. >> just par for the course. >> on cable, apparently. >> i hate when lindsay graham gets ghetto. >> glad he didn't use the whole word. let's get to mike dewine, attorney general of ohio, one of the states suing in this case. >> good to be back. >> thanks for yo

it's not obama care, it's actually at fordable care act. >> the argument on the other side is congressand what's going to be debated today in the supreme court are you engaging in commerce when you're deciding to self-insure, pay for health insurance yourself or is this as you say the creation of commerce by congress, which it can't do the plaintiffs say. >> so the knack activity thing because i get it, tom, when you say congress is allowed to regulate commerce, why are they allowed to regulate me if i don't want to engage in commerce? >> the defenders of the law say you are engaging in commerce. everyone needs health care. if you pay for it yourself you're still getting self-care and self-insuring, congress is regulating how it is you do that. it's different they say from forcing you to go out and buy a product because you're inevitably going to be in the market anyway. >> the americans polled we showed the majority of americans don't like this looking at pictures of people out on the court steps both for and against this law, but i mean to be honest there's 2,700 pages in this legisl

we have much to learn from these efforts and the ad fordable care -- the affordable care act gives us the tools to support this type of reform across the country. the problem is that our health care delivery system remains clumsy and wasteful. we spend more than 18% of america's gross domestic product on our health care system every year. to put that into context, the highest any other industrialized country spends is approximately 12% of gross domestic product on health care. 18% united states of america, least efficient other industrialized countries in the world, 12%. huge proem fo room for improvem. we overspend and underachieve. the president's council of economic advisors estimated that over $700 billion a year can be saved without compromising health outcomes. the institutes of medicine put the savings from these kind of reforms at $765 billion a year. the new england health care institute projected $850 billion in savings annually, and the lewin group and former bush treasury secretary paul o'neill have estimated the savings at $1 trillion a year. whichever is accurate, this i