fordice went to yale. ruth bader ginsberg went to harvard and columbia. she followed her husband. when he moved to new york to get a job, is she went to columbia. and she's the only -- not only woman, i think one of the few people in history who was on two law reviews for harvard and columbia. steven brier went to stanford as an under graduate and harvard law school. you know, alaina kagan went to princeton and harvard. it does say that once again, the decline of anti-semitism in the legal profession. it was -- you'll read about it in my books, hopefully. the president of harvard, later achieved much more notoriety trying to introduce a quarter of jewish admissions to harvard in the 1920s. it was through these jewish students who grew up -- frankfurter, fordice were the first members of their families to go to college. they went to these prestigious law schools. so it was part of the greater acceptance in the law school than helped the -- change -- helped bring about a decrease of anti-semitism in the legal profession. just to end this on one story that's very interesting, i think