silberstein is an associate scholar with the foreign policy research institute in center city. his focus is on north korea. thank you so much for being here. benjamin katzeff silberstein: my pleasure. jacqueline: first of all, help us understand why our options dealing with north korea are so limited. benjamin: well, i think there are several reasons why there really aren't a lot of great options for dealing with north korea. one of them is the limited range of diplomatic contacts that the united states has with north korea. so, in the case of another country where there were diplomatic channels of some sort established, you could imagine that you could downgrade diplomatic contacts as a show of force or as a signal, but just because contacts are already so dismal, there's not really much to do in that range. second of all, the unpredictable nature of north korean strategy makes it very hard to deal with north korea in terms of, like, i think that even if there are military options that could achieve certain us objectives when it comes to north korea, we just don't know how nor

europe as a whole has had -- look, again, i wrote an article about this for the foreign policy research institutebig difference between the integration in many cases in europe and in the united states when it comes to muslims, when it comes to immigrants. we go back to orlando. one of the first people that raised the alarm against this awful person was in fact someone who was in the mosque with him, who went to the fbi and said there's something not right here. that actually led to fbi surveillance. i think it's so important to recognize that these are such a small percentage of these communities. when it comes to policing, when it comes to intelligence, the best way -- when you think about the nypd, if you see something, say something. when it comes to that line of defense, in many cases it's the community. we've seen belgium. >> they don't have this right in a lot of mainland european countries. these are colonial countries that just weren't able to deal with these waves of immigration that same came in and figure ou to integrate people. none of which is an excuse for terrorism. >> it's the com

europe as a whole has had -- look, again, i wrote an article about this for a foreign policy research institutes a big difference between the integration in many cases in europe and the united states when it comes to muslims, when it comes to immigrants. i think this is such an important point to make, that, look, we go back to orlando. one of the first people that raised the alarm against this awful person was in fact someone who was in the mosque with him, who went to the fbi and said there's something not right here. that actually was the fbi surveillance. it's so important to recognize that these are small percentage of these communities. look, when it comes to policing, when it comes to intelligence, the best way, when you think about the fbnypd, when you see something, say something. the united states, we're very lucky to have such good participation with these communities, which i think in many cases stops a lot of this. clearly the uk does as well. but i guess perhaps they could do a little better. we've seen belgium, that's been -- we've heard reports that that is not the case. >> let'

tension reporter for nbc news and clint watts, a former fbi agent and senior fellow at the foreign policy research institute gentlemen, what did you make of that testimony? i thought he was powerful in defending the fbi, which he served his whole life. your thoughts. >> i agree, chris. i thought you heard the most emotion in his voice during that portion of his testimony. and, you know, it's because the things thathe white house said about comey and the fbi just weren't true, demonstrably. clint will speak to this, but i have friends who work there, and they said, look, nobody agreed with everything comey did. a lot of people had a problem with the way he handled the e-mail matter, but he was a good director. i have one friend who said he e-mailed him about a personnel matter and he got a response 12 hours later. i mean comey had his flaws but he was generally a well regarded fbi director, and he was considered a good manager. so the idea that the fbi was in disarray as a reason for him to be fired was just demonstrably false, chris. >> clint, he called the president's statements about what was going on at