forg rachel, forget this attempt on seem like we're goino e completely measured with respect to each witness and let this guy get punched in the face by both sides odid graham have that planned out all along? >> does anyone feel they're a closer to knowing what happened? i don't think so. you had two compelling witnesses. >> i think they bh believe they're telling the truth. to me, i think senators have to decide, what is the fallout? my guess is, how a senator will be thinking about this. what is the fallout from eithe decision and what is the sort of, to me, what is the least bad option? because it feels like either outclom feel like a bad option. >> to answer savannah's question directly, what is her motivation to come forward? and to welcome an investigation. and his motivation is clearly the job intervi and theest of his life on theur supreme so you have to ask that in evaluating, why would this person come forward. >> a lack of motive to lie is clearly on herfavor. >> but the republicans know that. >> even if you completely believe dr. ford, who was remarkably credible in her t