forkner met. we think he was talking about a simulator in development and my reporting shows that he had every reason to know exactly what mr. forkner meant because mr. forkner's lawyer was paid by boeing through boeing zone director and officer liability insurance. so it was a bit of a double game where boeing was holding him out as a scapegoat as you're saying. and his deputy patrick gustafson was still a boeing at the time, right? and he was the other guy at the other end of the messages. yeah, which proves astronom at the time said did you ask him and then a smallenberg had to say no. well besides boeing your book. documents a parallel decline within the faa in terms of the oversight that they were. that was their job. what went wrong within the faa do you think? well, i tell that story through the perspective of the faa specialists on the on the ground and and they had their people who who talked about their managers as being people who were just as technically skilled as them going going bac