pat: what about, like, formica? scott: formica's cool. but then again, what is it? 100 bucks a sheet? one sheet covers one kit. your labor, the contact cement, the labor spinning it, drying it, doing the seam, doing the outside edge, filing the outside edge. i think natural's the way to go. what's the size of the bass drum gonna be? chris: it's a 20-inch bass drum. scott: 20-inch? if you offer a 20 and a 22, you have almost the same shipping costs, 'cause you're still getting one box, but then we're able to get another shell in there. [ drum pounding ] lemonis: scott's knowledge of innovation and creativity is second to none. and, quite frankly, i think that's the missing recipe that's gonna get us to the magic number. it's kind of cool to listen to your brother 'cause he's got some crazy [bleep] in his head, -and he's very smart. -mike: right. [ drum playing ] lemonis: after a week, i got news from the guys that the prototype is done. for us to be able to make a prototype that is $895 retail, that -- that's a big deal. -that's a good-looking set. -mike: yeah, it's