and isolation center in the province of formosa in northern argentina. people you see they are being held here against their will. this man says nobody is taking care of them correctly or for that yes you read the order here we've had children here for 22 days and no specialists or doctors have seen them please stop lying people are going to find out the truth about what's happening in this province. reports. syndicate there are over 3000 people in isolation in the province argentina was one of the 1st countries in latin america to impose a quarantine to prevent the spread of covert 1000. but one most lockdowns around the country have been lifted the lockdown in formosa has remained in place and broken since march last year human rights groups are questioning why people are taken to this isolation centers and the treatment they receive once they're there there are reports of people being picked up in the middle of the night in their homes and taken with their families and that's why human rights organizations are asking provincial or forty's to ease this

they wanted to go to formosa. that would make sense because they are coming from the central pacific all the way over to formosa. why did they recommend formosa? most of the things that the japanese military and the japanese homeland needed was out here in the dutch indies, rubber and especially oil and some other key supplies that they needed for their war machine, and if you are sitting in formosa, you basically cut that off. so that was the argument the navy was proposing. well, franklin roosevelt is a politician and he finds a compromise, but the compromise essentially ends up favoring macarthur's plan in large part, and allowed macarthur now to continue his attack, his invasion of the philippines, waiting first -- landing first on one island and later on another. the navy will have to think about an adjustment to their strategy, because they are not allowed to go all the way to formosa. they said their eyes on iwo jima -- they set their eyes on iwo jima. that seems to be the next logical step for them. one mo

the really interesting and enormous question for the world is had we taken formosa in 1944 would we then or would that have led to a larger involvement in american troops on the asian mainland and might that have led to a different result in the civil war. it is so speculative and it's hard to make persuasive arguments are not an expert on what happened in the chinese civil war but 1949, four years after the end of the second world war, and now had taken control of china and the significance of that event for world history, including today is just incalculable. ernest king who was the chief of naval operations and senior leader of the officer of the navy during the second world war in 1949 looking back he raised this question that if we had done what i wanted to do, he said, take formosa and bypass saigon and it might have led to a different result and perhaps mao would not have gotten the upper hand in china and that would have diverted the of asian and world history. >> fascinating. that is one of the fascinating what if's, the pacific war is so large and any change you make and it cha

if we had done what i had wanted to do, he said, take formosa then this might have led to a different result and perhaps mao would not have gotten the upper hand in china and of course that would have debited the course of asian and world history. >> fascinating. that is one of the fascinating what if's if the pacific war is so large and then any change you make is changes the course of her own historical timeline, you might say, dramatically across-the-board. >> , it's true in europe as well. it's one of the reasons the second world war is so unique and so important and fascinating. it really has shaped the post world war in asia and choices that were being made by the generals and admirals and how to prosecute the war have downstream indications for the post war that we are living with today. >> let me switch gears on you, ian. so much of your book and i would describe your book as an expertly written operational manual. if my bread and butter to read operational history and this is as good as it gets. >> you know what you're talking about so i appreciate that the mac thank you. muc

the mainland eisenhower asked for what can be known as the formosa resolution.nd this resolution gave as an hour went no terry power he needed for needed was to protect the population in the island of formosa. and again, in 1957 when there was evidence of a communist resolution in lebanon, eisen our asked for what he called eisenhower doctrine, which gave in the freedom to dispatch american forces at anytime to protect american interests in the middle east. congress passed the eisenhower doctrine by an overwhelming margin. so johnston made clear when asked for the top resolution, i do not ask anything more than what eisenhower us for between 1954 and 1957. so the manner in which the talking resolution was obtained was in defensive. it himself was not unprecedented but its consequences were. and that's the topic will pick up next. i'll see you next week. (applause) (applause) next on lectures in history. brooklyn college professor casey johnston teaches a class on presidents lincoln johnston and richard nixon supreme court nominations. this is an hour and 15 minu

ian: i think that if we had landed in formosa. we would still have troops there today. so the nature of the conflict between the independent nation of taiwan and china would be much more intense. our major military is there green of course that speculative. so what if. it's interesting an enormous question for the world had we taken formosa in 1944, would we then have or lead to a larger involvement of american troops in the mainland. might that have led to a different result in the chinese civil war per unit and again it is so speculative. it's very hard to make a persuasive argument. ... ... >>> it's just calculable. the leader, officer in the navy during the second world war. in 1949, looking back, he raised this question. if we had opportunity what i had wanted to do, he said, take formosa might have led to a different and put perhaps mao wouldn't have gotten an upper hand in china and that would have diverted the course of asian history. >> the pacific war so is large and any change in it changes the course of our own historical timeline, dramatic changes. >> it's

an isolation center in the province of formosa in northern argentina. people here say they are being held here against their will. this man says nobody is taking care of them to care for that yes you're a hero here we've had children here for 22 days and no specialists or doctors have seen them please stop lying people are going to find out the truth about what's happening in this province. reports indicate there are over 3000 people in isolation in the province argentina was one of the 1st countries in latin america to impose a quarantine to prevent the spread of covert 1000. and one most lockdowns around the country have been lifted the lockdown in formosa has remained in place and broken since march last year human rights groups are questioning why people are taken to this isolation centers and the treatment they receive once they're there there are reports of people being picked up in the middle of the night in their homes and taken with their families and that's why human rights organizations are asking provincial authorities to ease this restricti

they had a different proposal, they wanted to go to formosa. that would make sense because they are coming from the central pacific. all the way over to formosa. why did they recommend for melissa? because most of the things that the japanese military, and the japanese homeland really needed, we're down here in the dutch east indies. rubber, oil, and some other key supplies that they needed for the war machine. and if you are sitting in for melissa you basically cut that off. that was the argument that the navy was proposing. well, franklin roosevelt is a politician. and he finds ways to compromise. but the compromise essentially, ended up favoring mcarthur's plan in a large part. and allowed mcarthur to continue his attack, and his invasion of the philippines. and also now, the navy is going to have to think about, and adjustment to their strategy. because they're not allowed to go to formosa. now they set their eyes on, he would jima. that seems to be the next logical step for them. so one more battle, that i wanted to talk about while we are

islands were being bombed by the chinese in the mainland eisenhower asked what became known as the formosa resolution and this resolution granted eisenhower the power to take whatever military action he felt was necessary to prevent the chinese on formosa and again this was granted by a wide margin and in 1967 whether there is with a evidence of a possible insurrection in lebanon, he had the freedom to dispatch american forces at any time to protect u.s. interests in the middle east and congress passed the eisenhower doctrine by an overwhelming margin so johnson made clear when asking for the tonkin gulf resolution, i do not ask anything granted to dwight eisenhower in 1955 and 1957 so the manner in which the gulf tonkin resolution was obtained was indefensible. it itself was not unprecedented, but its consequences were, and that's the topic we'll pick up next time. i'll see you next week. [ applause ] >>> every saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on "american history tv" on c-span 3 go inside a different college classroom and hear about topics ranging from the american revolution, civil rights

he was all in favor to going all the way to formosa, thought that would be logical place to go. with remembering the conversation that they had before was in favor of iwo jima. it is tough to see but iwo jima is right here, this little star, the middle of nowhere. and of course they had already decided that iwo jima would be next, that starts in march. and then where to go after that? if not formosa, the next step was going to be somewhere in the islands and the logical place was okinawa. here's okinawa, the mainland, the surrounding islands. that was the decision that was finally made and they code named it operation iceberg. don't ask me how they come up with these names, they are always colorful. a little bit about okinawa itself. it is 60 miles long, and from anywhere to two to 18 miles wide. it's 485 square miles. remember how to highly knee iwo jima was. this is a much, much larger island. it's part of a chain of islands. mountainous terrain in the northern parts, and its central area, you can kind of see that here, the landing beaches are going to be right in this vicinit

goingg was in favor of all the way to formosa. he thought that would be the logical place to go. nimitz remembering the conversation and agreements they had, was in favor of iwo jima. that iwo tough to see jima is right here, this little star in the middle of nowhere. of course, they had already decided iwo jima was going to be next. that starts in march. then where to go to after iwo jima? if not formosa, the next up was going to be somewhere in theryuku islands and the logical place was okinawa. here is the mainland, okinawa, the surrounding islands. that was the decision finally made, and they codenamed at operation iceberg. do not ask me how they come up with these names, they are colorful. a little bit about okinawa itself. long and from anywhere from 2-18 miles wide. square miles. remember how tiny iwo jima was, this is a much larger island. it is part of the ryuku chain of islands, mountainous terrain in the north. , the landingarea beaches are going to be in this vicinity. fieldsow planes, lots of the southern part of the island, hard to tell, rolling terrain. the top hal