you have to go back and forth and back and forth. well, the swivel sweeper uses sliders, so it slides and glides in any direction and on any surface. the new sliders are more durable and they're bigger than the original sliders so they slide effortlessly from surface to surface. and you can see, we've got a whole bunch of surfaces right here. on wood, it's the best. you don't ever have to worry about scratching the surface. transitions straight to a thick pile carpet, straight onto berber, picking up as you go. let the g2 do the work so you don't have to. you've got quad-brush technology. clean more with the power of four. going sideways, swiveling as it goes, to the right. if you want to get the job done quicker on carpet, straight onto this decorative tile, and when it comes time to empty, it's easy to use. one click... there's the touchless dirt tray. set it down and you're ready to go. >> i can go from the carpet to the tile to the wood floor, even into the bathroom and behind the toilet... everywhere in the whole house with just

on thousands of islands and so forth. so we did the best we could and it turned out to be a very honest and fair election. and in those 500 members of the parliament had added on to them 200 more people that didn't have an adequate chance to be elected, members of the armed forces and youth groups and womens groups and things of that kind. so it added up to a total of 700 members of the parliament and those 700 voted for the president. five years later, it was very successful though they had to change presidents in between because of various reasons, it takes too long to explain, but then five years later they had another election and the carter center was back there and this time it was a direct election by the people of their president. and then, as you know, that president has now been re-elected. so i would say that indonesia is well on the way to being a permanent and dependable democracy. it still has some very serious problems with isolated terrorism in some of the islands, for instance, there's a very serious prob

. >> no more back and forth and back and forth over the same spot? >> you got it. that's why they call garry the no backtrack vac. >> so, bob, will the garry really clean up all my kids' messes as easily as that grass? >> yeah, and our pets' hair and dander? >> and the dirt they bring in? >> yes, yes, and yes. in fact, it'll do even more than that. it's gonna give mom here what she really needs most. >> oh, come on. more time? a vacuum is gonna give me more time? >> yeah, that's hard to believe, bob. >> i know, and that's why i decided to test the garry and why i asked you to all bring your own dirt. o.k., what have you got first, carl? >> i've got dirt from our garden. our dogs are always tracking that in. >> zondra: cereal. lots and lots of breakfast cereal. >> and i've got grass. katie, what have you got? >> dog hair... and more dog hair. >> bob: o.k., let's see how garry does. all right, we're just gonna go straight through, going from the linoleum right to the low-pile carpet, and then i'm gonna move right on to the deep-pile carpet, all in just one pass. and,

i hope that that will change in the months ahead when we get health care out of the way and so forth and really concentrate on a carbon controlled mechanism that would be meaningful. so the theory is known, it's just a the theory is known. it is just a matter of oil companies and automobile manufacturers and power companies. they do not want to see any restraint placed on the amount of carbon they produce. >> can you tell us more about situations like the indonesian elections were dozens of people were standing for one seat, and scores of candidates for the presidency. what kind of problems did that impose? >> we were indicted in strangely by a man who became the vice president of indonesia, which is an enormous country, by far the largest muslim country on earth. he had been to visit us in our home, and he had stepped down when the dictator was put in -- put under arrest. the vice-president moved up and invited the carter center to come in and martyr the election. it was the first in -- first democratic election that indonesia had ever attempted. they had only elected 500 members of

support for the memorial came forth from the entircountry.see that the attack on the pentagon was never forgotten. at a foury outside st. louis, missouri, custom molds and metal alloys were created that would form the 184 individual benches on display throughout the memorial. steel fired at over 3,000 degrees would ultimately be crafted into individual tributes designed last for generations to come. as would be expected, every detail of the pentagon memorial is deliberate and helps tell a part of the overall story. >> right off the bat we decided to try to figure out a way to invite interpretation; put enough clues, enough hints and clues into this place that would make one pause for a second, and a place to just contemplate. the act of contemplation at this place is, in and of itself, a way to pay respect. >> the memorial consists of 184 individual cantilevered benches perched above a shimmering pool of water, each bearing a single victim's name. >> a hundred and eighty-four unique individuals lost their lives here going about their daily li

people who write extremely intellieently about the philosophy of it and the problems with it a so forth but there are thousands of us, me included, have do a lot of field work on our own htory, but wh you think o books to assign it gives students an idea what oral history can do, you invariably comeback to studs. that's true for people who teach oral history in europe and presumably asia, everywhere in the world as well a the united states. there is no figure light speed nine with an oral history, a small field, a field that has little respect within academic life. but which represents a popular approach to histo that is par excellence, that excds any other historians grip of the life. >> as well as well knows, one of e grt things about studs he is a great actor before he durham started doing oral history he fell int different radio shows and was good at that and he was the most mechanically inept human beg in the world. most oral historians would say please let tk and just sit there. studs wood -- >> he would always say one of his great advantages is he was an act. [laughter] and than

that'll mark me out now as a defector from the chicago school and so forth. the defect of liberalism is that it does not understand, i think, it does not understand a limiting principle to state expansion for those interventions onehalf of individual liberty or individual fulfillment of people's freedoms. so -- by the way,ilson's view of it was forget this whole individual liberty of the founders, we now want to speak about mature freedom. that's the word he used. a whole different meaning that liberty, see. so the very critique of that valid point of view is that it is not neat and simple, and there's lots of exceptions and requires some deep thought. but to the extent the state continues expanding without limit, individua liberties will be restricted. what will obama take? they may take away my freedom to choose health insurer that i might like to have in an on marketplace. there's a specific for you, and that's not -- it seems to me -- a frivolous argument. >> i think steve's actually stated both what conservatives ar and what conservatives need to recogni

you have to go back and forth and back and forth.vel sweeper uses sliders, so it slides and glides in any direction and on any surface. the new sliders are more durable and they're bigger than the original sliders so they slide effortlessly from surface to surface. and you can see, we've got a whole bunch of surfaces right here. on wood, it's the best. you don't ever have to worry about scratching the surface. transitions straight to a thick pile carpet, straight onto berber, picking up as you go. let the g2 do the work so you don't have to. you've got quad-brush technology. clean more with the power of four. going sideways, swiveling as it goes, to the right. if you want to get the job done quicker on carpet, straight onto this decorative tile, and when it comes time to empty, it's easy to use. one click... there's the touchless dirt tray. set it down and you're ready to go. >> i can go from the carpet to the tile to the wood floor, even into the bathroom and behind the toilet... everywhere in the whole house with just one easy step

even up a little into the corner, and just keep rubbing it going back and forth. >> o.k. >> kathleen: that's probably good. all right, so here is the right eye where we did not apply any product. >> robin: right, and you have that little puff that i get... >> ...i know, the puffiness, right, right? >> robin: yeah, yeah, yeah. >> and now, here's the left eye with the product. there's an immediate change that you can notice. >> robin: let me see you. >> turn around. can you tell? >> robin: oh, wow, i can! it almost looks like you have highlighter on, but you don't. >> right... concealer, i don't have any concealer on. none whatsoever. >> robin: that's ama... 'cause it gets the puffiness out... >> yep. >> when do i get to look? >> kathleen: turn towards me, i want to see. >> robin: just turn. >> [gasps] all right, that's incredible, that's incredible because all of... like here,

sweep it down and across and just keep rubbing it back and forth.ust watch what happens. >> robin: do... do tommy. >> kathleen: all right, so, tommy, i'm just gonna give you a little in your finger. rub it... >> if this gets out, you've had it. >> yeah, that's right. all right, so in from the corner, and just kind of rub back and forth. >> robin: honey, this is so cool. >> wow, it's like... as you can see... >> it's changing? now look at this side... [overlapping chatter] >> kathleen: you want to see? >> robin: oh, i want to look! yes, i do! [robin gasps, women laugh] oh, my... no, oh, my god. it's like, this is all little crepe-y lines and dark in here, and look how smooth. look, you guys. it's, like, smooth. >> it feels like it just lifts a little in that corner, too, right? right up there? >> it does, it just feels so fabulous. i just love that it smoothes the cracks instead of going into them. >> kathleen: right. >> elise: ...i love it. can i, can i look? >> robin: good, it looks brighter. [laughter] >> looks like you have concealer on. >> yeah,

the reason for the deadly back and forth, it takes little to nothing to spark violence between violent gang members like we are talking about here. >> reporter: officls say new, antigang laws. >> this statue was enacted in 2006. we are starting to get a feel for it. this will be very important in this series of indictments and indictments to come. >> reporter: tonight, news 4 spoke to somne who witnessed one of the shootings and ran to try to help the victim. that person says there's a great sense of relief in the neighborhood. back to you. >> jackie benefitson reporting. thank you. >>> there were claims about airline safety as officials look into a deadly crash this year. 3407 crashed in buffalo, new york february 12, killing 50 people. that crash prompted criticism of the training and pay of flight crews of smaller carriers. congress said those problems continue. three regional airlines are pressuring pilots to fly if they are too sick or tired. the airlines deny the allegations. >>> on the tracks, the union that represents metro train operators was to stay in the slower manual mode

marsha, where are you getting that, the e-mail exchange back and forth? it's obviously interesting talking about someone who has standards like that and it sounds very intense standards that's the picture you are painting here. can you tell us more about where that information is coming from? >> it's just sort of the scuttlebutt around. >> got you. >> it's not been affirmed specifically. the cops are being pretty close to the vest on this. >> got you. >> so -- >> okay. okay. again, cnn/hln not confirming that but we have so many questions about this. when we talk evidence let's bring in dr. michelle dupree, again medical examiner. with the arrest of raymond clark, iii, does this mean his dna was all over this crime scene, is that what you can deduct here? >> it probably means they at least found some on the crime scene or on the body, absolutely. >> okay. what we know here, michelle, they collect 250 pieces of evidence. seems like a pretty quick turnaround to get that arrest. what do you think they found? how did they connect the dots here? >> they may ha

was following it on satellite and so forth, that they need to be dealt with before build up other covertites. >> charlie: secretary gates i think has said that the most you could assume from any attack on their facilities was a delay of two to three years. am i right about that, ray? >> that's absolutely right. that was certainly when the israelis came last year and asked for the bunker-busting weapons and for the overflight right over iraq, and for refueling capability, to be able to strike the sites, and president bush turned them down, the estimate inside the white house at that time was that at most, they would get a few years, maybe even just six or eight months of delay in the system and that it wasn't worth it, and you certainly heard secretary gates repeat that this weekend. >> charlie: ray, is this an accurate argument that so far the iranians have been winning this game because while they have played back and forth with whatever negotiating group there was including the iaea, all it has done has played into their hands? >> you could make a case that up until this point iranians

which led to the irn and so forth. because of my background with native american and hispanic culture, i felt very passionate. as a less started sundance and the belmont lab. we had a native american lab -- and the film lab. we had a native american leaven and hispanic lab. there were no native american filmmakers. they were essentially a focused on handcrafts, weaving, and so forth. sooner or later, storytelling is going to come to them and maybe we will be there to help. and and the hispanics, i could see the population increase particularly in california. i wrote a letter to garcia marquez to see if he would help, and he did. those two labs were at sundance. recently -- once we were in one fell onto the system, then this project with governor richardson came up in new mexico. which you know about, the property between this area, where that land goes back to 1709. it was used off and on through the years, it was the fun to lately, and the idea was to turn it into something. he wanted to make it a cultural center, but

>> my table mates thought, this woman is off her rocker. >> intellectuals and book writers and so forth which this conference is writely famous, and, rightly famous have one big vice in my opinion. that is, we tend to look past people. we're thinking about ideas. i think this is more a male vice than a female vice in generalut we tend to look past people because we are trying to get some kind of abstraction about them or fit the abstraction into them and vice versa. whereas, in my view, going back to my years and years of teaching but also doing oral histories, the real trick is to lk straight into people and see them for what they are and take them for what they are, and draw them out. i mean this is really a perfectly obvious sort of thing. and yet, to be able to manage that level of concentration, effortlessly, seemingly effortlessly throughout an extremely long lifetime in studs' case, requires that very deep egalitarian or socialistic ntalit that never slips into the usual didactism laying it on heavy with people and all the other things intellectuals are mistakenly doing. but to t

that the political back and forth has intruded on anyone speaking to school children and teachers and parents. >> reporter: the president will say even when you feel like other people have given up on you, don't ever give up on yourself. he'll tell students their goals can be as simple as doing homework, paying attention in class, or spending time each day reading a book. >> i'm a republican right conservative, but i think it's important that kids know about their president and when he speaks. i think they should have -- they should be exposed to that. >> reporter: the president says a message of personal responsibility he hopes young people will hear. leanne gregg, nbc news. >>> the white house is getting support in pushing back that controversy from a somewhat surprising source. fomer firstura bush tells cnn she backs the president's decision to speak to the nation's school kids. in her words it is "really important for everyone to respect the president of the united states." mrs. bush also expressed frustration with the sharp partisan divide in washington, indicating she feels it's

you are doing rover clubs and so forth. what about finding jobs for people?what are we doing about unemployment? >> the general, with its legislative goals, if you will, after labor day. we have three goals in terms of the legislative session. one is restructuring the budget. control board changes another. we need spending limits. we don't want to end up in the hole. the third is economic and development/jobs. we want to get input from a manufacturing concern who was trying to get a virtual town hall meeting on what ideas everybody has to make a difference. i am continuing that process. we will come out with two or three items with legislative colleagues and the chamber and realtors that we think would make a difference. at minimum, the notion of reforming has to be on there. we have to have something that better connects the recruitment on what congress does with where jobs are needed. i think there is a growing level of need for tort reform. we have a compact that was worked out. we have to lock that down. when the panic, canal opened, -- when the panama ca

c-span: were you able to switch band forth and. >> guest: yes. we had discs and we had a wonderful research assistant named elise farron, who knew the computers better than we did. so she managed to keep everything working technologically. c-span: this is a couple of sentences i want to read you about how you two got to this point." but at no point, we believe, has the cumulative assault on the idea," in italics, "of responsible government been so destructive of the very faith in the democratic system as now. thorouly cynical society, deeply distrustful of its institutions and leaders and the reliability of information it rdceives, is a society in peril of breaking apart." how close are we? >> gst: well, i think ere's great resilience in th country. we've come through some much tougher times than we face right now. what's disturbing about this particul perind is that so many of the american peoe have come to believe that their government has been captured by aln forces. and what we've tried to say in this book "the system" is, "yes, there are pow

which led to the irn and so forth. one no. and, because of my background -- on your thing, because of my background was obviously very attached to that. i started sundance and the flap, and we had a native american lab and a hispanic lab. i wanted to use those labs to create filmmaking capability. in those years, 1980's, there were no native american filmmakers and native americans were simply focused on handcrafts, weaving, and so forth. maybe we will be there to help. and with hispanics, i could see the population increase, particularly in california. and so i wrote a letter to a gabrielle garcia marquez, and he thought it would be good to help. those two labs were at sundance. recently, was we worked "smoke signals, through the lab, i saw that it would happen. and then this government -- and this project with government -- with governor richardson came third. that lange goes back to 79, -- that when it goes up through tonight -- that land goes back to 1709. he wanted to put a festival there. i cannot put the festival there

scalia and stevens are sort of going back and forth on what we've said in the past. it is true in the 1890's the court said railrds and whatever can challenge things because they had right under the 14th amendment, so they were persons. justice stevens said that we've never said that in the campaign eckert. we've never said corporations have the se rights. justice scalia says is we have, cause there are cases -- famous cases involving "the new york times" for example. well, they are a corporation. scalia says we have acknowledged corporations have free-speech rights so the justices don't agree on this point. i don't think they are going to agree in this case. but as i say, the fundamental issue is do th want to treat corporations, and i presume than unions, as having free-speech rights? and if they do,hen they are going to say this whole fabric -- theccain-feingold law was a lobby that plugged a loophole. taught loopholes as mccain said there was soft money was a term tt can and to vote because it was a way to get around the limits on spending. you could give it to a

it will allow us to put forth the shady grove master plan and gaithersburg master plan and ensure it will come to fruition. because we have land usage in a way that is most beneficial to the taxpayers of montgomery county. >> reporter: at the same time this is not an insignificant amount of money and budgets are tight. where will the money come from this particular purpose. >> what we are doing is swapping land. county owned land now in very good locations that we think should be moved, and we are going to swap land. so we will end up with land that in affect will allow us to trade it. so this will not cost a dime. >> reporter: we had a report about montgomery county graduation rates dropping 2% in the last year. a lot of parents are concerned about this. a lot of lawmakers are concerned. where do you stand on this? >> i think that is disappointmenting but you have to look at the school system. they have done a terrific job. montgomery county is rated one of the top systems in the state of maryland and around the country. i think this is an aberration. i think there are problem need

so you know, as life goes on, i go to my group meeting and so forth, and i receive the support. i get back to myself. >> welcome to our support group. and the topic today is about adherence. >> reporter: the national program has set up support groups like this one to help people cope with the daily challenges of living with aids. >> you have to have people coming and talk and let me know that life goes on and so forth. >> when you get into a group of persons who are hiv positive and you see they are well and they're looking well, they can be well, they can be productive and they continue to live a normal life, then this helps them psychologically. >> reporter: winston keane dawes who runs the local aids program here says the biggest change came five years ago when the government began providing free drugs to everyone with the virus. >> the medication free of cost. they can see that they're feeling much better. they're looking much better. nobody can suspect that person looks like an hiv person. >> reporter: here being publicly identified with aids often leads to social isolation

and back and forth. where do you see it going? >> we need to hear from the president who has been saying for months and months that he is going to tell people where he stands on trade, and the first and most important thing he has to do is to -- we are the biggest exporter in the world comment and in the last five years, including the last one year of recession, if we doubled down on exports in the next five years, and that means we're going to have to work on investment and on getting rid of buy america issues which start trade wars, we are really going to grow this economy. if you look at china saying what the president did was appropriate under the agreements that the chinese signed to get into the wto, but it may be was not the smartest thing to do. we do not make those cheap tires anymore, so what we are going to have to do is buy them from brazil or somewhere, and people are going to lose their jobs. the real issue for us to face is how we do this in a way that creates 20 million jobs, get the econ

father has always disliked it primarily seems because he thinks it doesn't socialize her well and so forthwhat makes it extraordinary is the line of reasoning that both the concept of education, go to public school to have your faith challenged and so forth, and the judge can make a ruling on this point. judges i think frequently in these cases have to choose between parents. i'm told also that in new hampshire, the girl has been going to homeschool for four years, and as you say has been doing well. that it is much harder for a court to make this kind of decision given those four years of success which has done well. the other thing that's so odd about this, there's no finding that the mother is unfit, that the girl is in danger to i understand, naomi, the state has an interest in protecting the security of a minor, the security of a minor, that doesn't seem to be at play in this case. is there some information -- application rather a religious bias to cute t-mac i think you could say that but i would just start with the point that the state has kind of been forced into this case here. yo

what is the egalitarian argument put forth in the declaration of independence. the other is a conservative argument put forth in the constitution, a system designed to slgw and inhibithange. in my book i mentioned that candle was the mos incisive analysts' of the civil-rights controversies of the '60s the analysis was the most subtle and interesting but these two ideas of a nation or a state that will use its powers to ex@and opportunity is one that according to canville laingen made manifest with another document t gettyurg address and the constitution some sense stands in oppition to it so at the risk of sounding myself like sthey would say there isarxist a dialectic in our politics. it is the competition between two equally opposed principles not a set of clearcut mao westmore principles that we follow. simply society including societies are much more complicated. ours is the government of competing interests and its accommodations among them that enable us function so that is the end of my rant here and we will take some questions now, is that what we will d

: the way the president jogged up the steps, the way all those hands clutched at his, the back and forth -- >> i love you back. >> reporter: sound familiar? >> i love you back. >> i love you back. >> reporter: thursday's health care rally felt like a time warp back to campaign '08, even change. >> we are going to bring about change. >> reporter: hasn't changed. >> it's our time for change. it has come. >> reporter: the president resurrected a favorite campaign story. >> looks like she just dressed came from church. got a big church hat. >> reporter: a story about the south carolina councilwoman who invented the favorite slogan the president is likewise resurrecting. >> are you fired up? are you fired up? ready to go? ready to go? >> reporter: it's like mojo dejavu. >> one voice can change a room. if one voice can change a room it can change a city. >> reporter: that rings a bell. >> if it can change a city it can change a state and if it can change a state it can change a nation. i'm barack obama and i approve this message. >> reporter: just when you thought we had a president, the campa

and as the president's motorcade was driving back and forth across it this morning, something was going on nearby that sent ripples of alarm across the capital. for the crews of the u.s. coast guard's fast patrol boats, it was a normal day, a routine training drill like this one on the boat tomyic river between two washington bridges i and not far from the pentagon and national airport. as part of the drill, a coast guardsman said on an open marine channel that a suspicious boat refused an order to stop. "bang, bang, bang" said one of the exercise participants. >> there is other news that we need to get out to you. in fact, breaking news right now. >> reporter: a few minutes later, cnn, hearing the radio call and seeing coast guard boats maneuvering, reported that shots had, in fact, been fired. >> this is pretty incredible. i have to say, as the story is developing here and i learned that rounds had actually been fired. >> reporter: based strictly on the news reports, the fbi scrambled a response team, and nearby national airport stopped all takeoffs for nearly half an hour, delaying 1

, back and forth and he on the california resources board what he is able to be able to help regulate these policies in california, which we both argued, there's a chapter on california in the book is the head of the game in terms of pushing innovation. certainly california's ahead of the u.s. in terms of thinking ahead. the u.s. has been much slower as a nation compared to definitely all of the western european nations, much slower to innovate and a much slower than california. >> and a forwardy governor schwarzenegger. >> yes. what disease they? >> governor schwaenegger has

who's going to pay attention to climate change and so forth? all of those issues. it's an unusual concentration of them that are important to massachusetts as they are to the nation that will be voted on in the next -- in the next few weeks. as i say, i think when you think about stewardship as being the main driving idea here, knowing that the people get to know in a special election and elect -- and choose their own senator in january of next year, stewardship was really what i was looking for. and paul kirk is a perfect steward. >> one last question on the senate seat before i'd like to talk to you about health care a bit. why paul kirk and not former governor dukakis? >> well, like i said, we've got a lot of political talent. i love mike dukakis. i think he brings a lot to the table. when you think about all of the factors and contributions and, again, this point of stewardship, i think paul kirk is the right one. i prefer to talk about why him than why not -- why not others. there is a -- there is one thing i will say that is so -- has been so humbling about t

. >> on abc, texas and texas tech, going back and forth, taylor potts, to we sehorns on move, t put the thing away. we hit five-minute mark. remember, all-weather delay in auburn, west virginia starting fourth quarter on espn2 and don't forget, college football final after spoer"sportscenter" tonight. >> brad: 2:05 remaining. ryan mallett, in the pocket, some pressure again and penalty marker down. see if it's a holding call. it is. that pocket was collapsing in a hurry again. that's the 11th penalty against arkansas. both teams in double digits in penalty department. after the game, reaction to washington's upset of usc today. building heisman hype, major league baseball's playoff push. all that and more on "sportscent are" when we are through. >> todd: one thing we saw today for sure, that is those two young protegees of pete carroll, steve sarkisian and lane kiffin both can coach a little football. kiffin didn't win but they played better against flor dan than i think anybody thought they would today. >> brad: mallett almost got childs right there. brandon smith, freshman covering hi

major policy decisions are often put forth in that and are set forth in tt fashion including environmental regulations, health care regulations and reimbursement rules and hospital requirements and financial institutions c be done through regulations and controlled through them. truly, there is a concern about the disconnect between the democratic accountability we a known for in our country and this process of administrative regulations. during president rgan's time, i believe, congress passed a law that created this office: the administrator for the office of information and regulatory affairs. the idea being to have another unelected bureaucrat -- and that's what this really is -- to be a central clearing house for all the propped regulations and to question the lawfulness or cost of the thousands of regulations that are promulgated. it is an important position that can protect and at least somewhat ensure our constitutional liberties are not beg eroded. enter mr. sunstein, always interesting and takin positions that those on the last of which he clearly is a part disagree; and indisput

that means stopping the republican filibuster and then bringing forth vote. like i said many times, if some of the conservative democrats don't want to vote for final passage because we have a strong public option, taking on the insurance companies and drug companies, fine. all we need is 50 votes plus the vice president. that is the preferred route. if you can't do that, then you use reconciliation and that's a harder approach to bring forth comprehensive reform. >> i guess -- this is -- outside the senate and outside washington and don't know how the politics of these things work. i'm guessing that since there has been a defacto 60-vote rule to get anything through since the republicans have been in the minority and democratic leadership has not made a ton of noise about that, i'm guessing that they are not interested -- not inclined towards trying to hold all the democrats together to stop that republican filibuster. are you getting any support for this idea? >> we are. hot and cold. the leadership on occasion made it clear they expect everybody to vote ag

and then we go back and forth, back and forth. we never cut corners on editing.a lot of big authors -- once they reach a point, turn in a book and say don't touch it. i'm done with it and that's -- that's a mistake. i'd be afraid to do that. my agent was my editor at doubleday for the first five or six books. david bought "the firm" in 1990 and he edited -- well, he edited 21 books now. and so we have -- obviously, we're very close and we have a close relationship. and as far as david is concerned and then the editors at doubleday and the copy editors, there's always been this sort of a transparency in that they know they can say anything. nothing is off limits. you can question anything. you can question a subplot. you can question the character. you can question a word. if something doesn't sound right, it's on the table. and that's extra work for me but in the long run -- and there's not a lot of that. there'sot a lot of that. in the long run i think it makes for a better book. the two processes that i've described, the outlining and then the editing are, you

did you filed this report and so forth. the way to resolve that is to get more import from these -- get more input from these private sector entities. the sec can get -- can have educational opportunities for training from these outside entities which will help with big picture issues. >> you'll also noted in your report the two spoke with private entities that provided due diligence and provided that madoff's returns were not legitimate. there were many people who suspected that there was something wrong with the madoff firm. what you think that more whistleblowers did not come forward? were there enough whistleblowers, but not enough villages at the sec? >> i think there were sufficient compliance. -- but not enough due diligence at the sec? >> i think there were sufficient compliance. he was using a plain vanilla trading strategy. there was no magic in it. i do not think that there were a lot of people who did due diligence who necessarily suspected it was a ponzi scheme. they may have suspected he was doing something il

this led to the irm and so forth. on your thing, because of my background with native americans and hispanic culture, i was serrie attached to this. we have the native american laboratory, and i wanted to use this to develop film making capabilities. there was none of this for native americans. native americans were focused on handcrafts. i said that storytelling will come to film. with the hispanics i could see the increase in california. i said, would you be willing to help the cultures. in any rate, these laboratories were at sundance. once he came there with smoke signals, we were working on this with the laboratory. there was the prospect with governor richards said. they were there near santa fe, and this goes back to 79. this is defunct and he wanted to turn this into something. he said he could not move the festival there. i think that we can't bring the native american laboratory here because this is more appropriate. the history is deeper here, longer and deeper. they were the first americans. let's focus on

back, a lot of tim the same people flipping back and forth between legal and illegal status. so to understand, to use a phrase comprehensively, the impact of immigration on health care issue, you need to look at all immigration, not just illegal immigration, as important as that is. and that is what we aim to do here today. our first speaker is probably one of the nation's leading experts on the issue of immigration, steven camarota, the research director here at the center for immigration studs. second speaker will be james edwards. jim is a fellow with cis, co-author of the congressional politics of immigration reform, and for many years has worked in both immigration policy field, but also in the health policy feel. and so he will have a lot to be able to bring to this discussion. and la but not least is robert rector, heritage foundation. probably the nations leading scholar on the issue of welfare reform, and over the last several years has been doing significant research on the issue of immigration and its effects on public services and costs and what have you. so the t

i'ld yield to you it's just the two of us. >> let's go back and forth. >> yeah.ean we have to figure ts out as a world, not just a nation. right? >> absolutely. in fact, it's a cold issue to fight. for the fight, o reason we're having this discussion is let's work on standardshat we'll also be with our allies. one other question i want toed pursue about the interrogation of that was obviously considerable conflict between one side that was achieving actual information, so significant that when the jose information became available as i recall the attorney generaof the united states had a press conference in moscow. and the other method which was producing a shut down if you will on the part of the detainee and it has been often cast as the difference between the trained professionals of the cia versus the amateurish military interrogators, teenagers who need the army field manual short of for their training wheels and law enforcementnvestigators and other things and can't be serious. it strikes me from the description that two elements of th, the issue are wrong.

i want to get your thoughts on choice and so forth. but let me just respond so senator collins.udies have, in fact, shown a government insurance option might take 60 million, 70 million, 80 million people out of the private insurance sector into that option. >> rather than speculating, why not go with a proven model. what i've been in favor of is making sure all americans have good quality affordable choices like their member of congress. 15 united states senators of both political parties are behind that kind of idea. insurance companies can't discriminate against them, but most importantly, it provides choice and real competition. i don't think we ought to be spec lating about what's going to work. let's go with something proven. >> i believe you've come out in favor of interstate insurance. i believe you've also come out in favor of giving the individual consumer, patient or family the tax breaks for choice and competition. if that's a case, do you expect to hear that from mr. obama tonight. >> i'm certainly hoping, larry, the words we will hear repeatedly tonight are choice

these are people who are operate by training local militias and so forth. think they are in the pipeline to send. >> let me ask on that note. isn't mcchrystal, isn't the general saying i need a lot more troops if this is going to be your strategy? if we're focus on the counterinsurgency the only way to do it is with more troops. the white house saying maybe we need to rethink this and the meeting today is pushed back. >> you are seeing a public battle in this regard. you are right on the money. mcchrystal says i need a whole bunch more troops. the vice president of the united states says basically mcchrystal doesn't know what he is talking about. we had the president on tape saying what we need to do is this and focus our attention on al qaeda and basically we don't care if taliban takes over afghanistan. you have the secretary of state following up by saying, well, the vice president doesn't know what he is talking about and then the president of the united states saying basically, look, i'm not ready to make a decision, we better wrap up. >> colonel, than

this isn't just business as usual in washington and usual back and forth. very wrong and disturbing has been happening out there in the country, and we need to try to put our finger on it. >> ron reagan, thanks very much. cynthia hardy, thank you very much. >>> up next, never mind the shout of "you lie" last night, why was it so important for republican whip eric cantor to be on his blackberry during the president's speech? that's next on the "sideshow." you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. a billion dollars a day buying foreign oil... we don't just waste our money... we put our economy in the hands of hostile nations. we let big oil make record profits... while we struggle. and we lose new energy jobs, that go overseas. but we can take charge of our economy... by passing strong clean energy legislation. 1.7 million new american jobs. less carbon pollution. and a cleaner america for our children. it's time for clean american energy. it's much easier to find money at esurance. great auto insurance rates and lots of discounts! got insurance already? save

the winter of 2007 when i first discussed some of the ideas, if that's what hey are, that i've set forth in this book. and you have invited me back again. sometimes i wonder why she did it but then i remarriages psychiatrist and maybe all this is very amusing to her. it's interesting when arthur described conservatives as radicals. that is what is what's interesting to me about the movement. not the conservatives are ldlife, but there has been kind of a radicalism and what we think of a moderate conservative movement. with this book is about, for those who haven't had a chance to look at it, is about the rise and ascendancy in trium, and then i think that the client of conservatism. i maybe wrong about all of these things. it is a work that deals essentially with the great thinkers who came out of the movement, or created the movement. and some other political figures. and ambiguous roles they occupied within the movement. and i say ambiguous because conservatism, in my view, is really divided between two impulses. one, which i describe as realists, or maybe arthur would save reformers.

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we go back and forth, back and forth. if we never cut corners on editing. a lot of big authors, once they reach a point they say okay, turn in the book and don't touch it. i am done with that. that is a mistake. i would be afraid to do that. my agent, david was meditor at doubleday. david bought the firm in 1990 and he has edited 21 books now, and so we ve obviously are very close and we have a close relationship. as f as david is concerned, the editors at doubleday andhe copyeditors, there has alway then this sort of a traparency in that they know they can say anything. nothing is off limits. you can question anything. you can question a subplot, you can question the character, you can question the word. if something doesn't sound rig it is on the table and that is extra work for me but in the long run, there is not a lot of that. in the long run i tnk it makes for a better book. the two processes that's i described the outliningnd then the editing, are by far the most unpleasant parof writing a book. buthey are also the most important. the most unpleasant

at the same time, there was radio transmissions back and forth that were on an open radio frequency you marine channel 81. that was overheard by cnn. cnn went on the air about 10:00 and said ten shot also had been fired at a suspicious boat. no shots were fired. two questions, one, how did this get reported and two, why did the coast guard conduct an exercise like this boats moving around, on september 11th, to an day the president was driving back and forth on bridges across the river to attend this memorial. the coast guard is looking into the that. >> as you point out, we try to certainly, at nbc news, we may hear things but we try to confirm them with law enforcement officials before you raise alarms. was there instance where the media raised false alarms without checking things first and delayed flights at national airport? >> the flights at national airport for about 20 minutes. the outbound flights were shut down, affected about 17 flights. my understanding, we have asked cnn for a comment. what they are saying, basically, is they heard these transmissions, they asked the coast g

this isn't just business as usual in washington and usual back and forth. something very wrong and disturbing has been happening out there in the country, and we need to try to put our finger on it. >> ron reagan, thanks very much. cynthia hardy, thank you very much. >>> up next, never mind the shout of "you lie" last night, why was it so important for republican whip eric cantor to be on his blackberry during the president's speech? that's next on the "sideshow." you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. i've been growing algae for 35 years. most people try to get rid of algae, and we're trying to grow it. the algae are very beautiful. they come in blue or red, golden, green. algae could be converted into biofuels... that we could someday run our cars on. in using algae to form biofuels, we're not competing with the food supply. and they absorb co2, so they help solve the greenhouse problem, as well. we're making a big commitment to finding out... just how much algae can help to meet... the fuel demands of the world. - oh, come on. - enough! you get half a