michael fortier is a free man.ed he didn't think mcveigh would carry out the bombing plan. he agreed to a plea bargain testifying against mcveigh and nichols. he served about 10 1/2 years in prison and was released almost a decade ago. fortier now has a new identity and new hometown because he's in the federal witness protection program. fortier still occasionally calls his lawyer. >> reporter: can you tell us where he is living, what his name is? >> no. >> reporter: he is still married? >> yes. >> reporter: to the same woman? >> yes. >> reporter: he has children? >> yes. >> reporter: how many children does he have? >> two. >> reporter: does he live a normal life? >> no. he'll never be able to live a normal life. >> reporter: in the witness protection program you're given a new identity. presumably his neighbors don't know anything about his background correct? >> i probably can't comment on that. >> reporter: when you say he's not living a normal life what do you mean because of the traumas of the past or things t

mike cam fortier is a free man. fortier claimed he didn't think mcveigh would carry out the bombing plan. he agreed to a plea-bargain, testifying against mcveigh and nichols. served in prison and released almost a decade age he has a new identity and new hometown because he is in the federal witness protection program. fortier still occasionally calls his lawyer >> can you tell us where he is living? what his name is? >> no. >> he is still married? >> yes. >> to the same woman? >> yes. >> he has children? >> yes. >> how many children? >> two. >> does he live a normal life? >> no. he'll never be able to live a there mall life. >> in the witness protection program, you are given a new identity. presumably his neighbors don't know anything about his background. that's the way it works. >> i can't comment. >> when high is not living a normal life because of the traumas of the past or things that happen in present? >> traumas of the past. the risk to him. >> brothers aaron and elijah coverdale were two of the children ki

fortier still occasionally calls his lawyer. can you tell us where he is living what his name is?no. >> but he is still married? >> yes. >> to the same woman? >> yes. >> and he has children? >> yes. >> and how many children does he have? >> two. >> and does he live a normal life? >> no. he will never be able to live a normal life. >> i mean in the witness protection program, you are given a new identity presumably his neighbors don't know anything about his background correct, that's the way it is supposed to bork? >> i probably can't comment on that >> you say he is not living a normal life, what do you mean by that because of the traumas of the past or because of things that happen in the present? >> the traumas of the past the risk to him. >> reporter: brothers aaron and elijah coverdale were two of the children killed in the murrah's day care center. their mother is janie coverdale. >> it makes me angry to know that's enjoying life and all of those people are dead and we are still suffering. >> i had broken ribs punctured lung and i look like i had been beaten with a baseball

michael fortier is a free man.idn't think mcveigh would actually carry out the plan, agreed a plea bargain testifying before mcveigh and nichols. served ten years in prison and released almost a deck cod ago. he has a new identity and new home because he's in the federal witness protection plan. he occasionally calls his lawyer. can you tell us where he's living, what his name is? >> no. >> reporter: but still married, to the same woman. >> yes. >> reporter: has children? >> yes. >> reporter: how many children? >> two. >> reporter: does he live a normal life? >> no. he'll never be able to live a normal life. >> reporter: in witness protection, given a new identity. presumably his neighbors don't know anything about his background? >> i probably can't comment on that. >> reporter: when you say he's not living a normal life what do you mean by that? because of traumas of the past or things that happen in the present? >> traumas of the past. the rick to him. >> reporter: brothers aaron and elijah, two of the children

and there was another friend, michael fortier, who was questioned and helped to provide some of the evidence against them. there are always questions in events like this where there is a lot of havoc and a lot of confusion about whether you've gotten everyone connected with the conspiracy. because they want pin down where these bombs were made, and one of these two are dead--i mean, i'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this kid is quiet. >> so what else does he know? >> now we know about the brothers but we didn't know what was happening that day which made it all the mortify more foster flyingmortifying mortifying. >> we're going in chronological order of the day. we're at possession and use of the firearm that semiautomatic handgun, no, the pipe bomb is in there. that's what they're talking about. the pipe bomb in relation to the crime of violence, aiding and abetting and the best way to go through the arguments is lay it down with the counts. so the jury would be able to go back through the jury room, walk through the counts, guilty, guilty guilty, you essentially give the jury what it need

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. >> caller: fortier chairman of committees in the house and senate. forty-eight way people.ably not senior enough yet. committee chairmanship typically comes from the number of years you have been in a particular seat. i no that there are number of women who are in position of subcommittee chairmanship rising. most of these things are a function of seniority. while there is diversity in the republican party in the chairmanships which are functional longevity he will probably be another ten years. i would also ask the question back, what kind of diversity is it when you only have one candidate for president? it is something of a shock to democrats that they only have hillary. no one would know who he is. james webb i no him because he is a great offer. but lack of diversity is a problem when you only have a party of one family. that is the real lack of diversity. they might have a lot of committee chairmanships, but basically the obama team has been running everything and have destroyed every other part of the democratic party >> host: will california ever be in place of the