is a recovery we'll be adding hundreds of billions to the deficit and then culative debt every year fover. there is no end to it, there is no end to it. >> it comes back to one thing, adam, spending, spending, spending, and by the way, and-- >> it's interesting. >> with the economy, you just talked about this recession, we can't get out after recession if we're hunkeng down and you know, the things that we're doing, it's more like a nation that's ready to divvy up the spoils and call it a day rather than one looking forward to the next hundred years. >> very he good. >> i actually think when you look at what's happened to the debate on medicare just as one example, the american people have spoken, neil, they said n't touch these programs, we like these programs, we like having-- >> i'm not going to jud when that's wise, they said don't touch medicare, medicaid, leave social security alone, entitlements alone, you have the block of the congressional black caucus saying don't ink of addressing it. so, we're left with no other option to eher increase taxes or ben said at the outset default.