but if i might just make the point that in other areas of litigation where there is a difference, foya, other regulatory areas, there are fine guidelines in history and regulations that give guidance that fine tune it before it gets to the court and perhaps there is a distinction between the deferences given those circumstances and review that is required here. i want to abide by the time, but i think the bill is a good starting point for discussion. it provides the independent assessment, clarifies it is an evidentiary privilege, not an immunity doctrine, and provides critical oversight. i have been enjoying participating in the constitution projects by a committee which i recently joined and the report has been signed by more than 40 policy experts, officials, and legal scholars of all political affiliations. i would ask that that report be included as part of the record in this hearing today. thank you, mr. chairman. >> that report will be included. i recognize mr. grossman for 5 minutes. >> good afternoon. my testimony concerns the consequences of the state secrets protection act w

at this issue not just in terms of these pictures, but in terms of, in effect, doing an end-around foya. -- foia. it creates a tremendous impediment in their mind to supporting of this bill. i want -- senator gregg mentioned earlier the lack of consistency demonstrated by one of the provisions in